I don't personally think there is anything inherently wrong with owning a gun. It's more the lengths that it can go to at the extreme, which is the reality that's playing out stateside.

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I think the two big differences here are that: (1) there are lots and lots and lots of hunters; and (2) home defense is deemed a legitimate reason for gun ownership. Given that those two reasons for owning a gun are going to be inviolate, whatever is done (if anything) about tightening gun control legislation is going to leave a very wide doorway for gun ownership.

For example, 2/3rds of the land in Pennsylvania is state-owned forest, and any state resident can purchase cheaply a license to hunt deer on state lands. So, basically every man and boy, and many women and girls, have a rifle each because hunting is so accessible and not at all an activity reserved for the wealthy. But, like the feral hog issue in Texas that I've mentioned in previous posts, if you're in the woods in Pennsylvania, you have a chance of running across bears, including grizzlies.

Like the threat from a feral hog, your bolt-action hunting rifle is going to be no match for a pissed off bear, so you'll want a semi-automatic to have a better chance to drop the bear before it drops you. So, some hunters will carry both a hunting rifle and a semi-automatic, and some will just use the semi-automatic for hunting. They will also carry a pistol in order to put out of its misery a deer that wasn't killed outright.

Now, opponents of hunting will find all of this horrific, and I get that. I do not hunt, or even fish (which would be a waste of time being that I'm vegetarian). But hunting is a way of life over here and considered a great parent-child bonding ritual and right of passage when the child makes their first kill. That is something that will never change, and so the wide doorway to gun ownership for "sports", as its known, will never be narrowed.

But, that doesn't mean you can't background check everyone buying a gun, register every gun purchased, limit the magazine size and track/limit ammunition purchases. All of which could've work to prevent or severely reduce the carnage of Sunday night, and none which interferes with legitimate sports usage of guns. Ditto home defense usage.

The only people who would be truly impacted by gun registration and the like are the gun fetishists who get off on pretending to be Dirty Harry, John McClane or John Rambo at weekends. Well Paddock was probably one of those guys and he took it to its ultimate extreme. So f*** those guys.

Edited by Ray in Houston (04 Oct 2017 9.39pm)

We don't do possession; we do defense and attack. Everything else is just wa**ing with a football.

The same as always, ever increasing control over the population.
Scare them (False Flag) then promise to protect them. A strategy that's constantly proven to work.

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Do you think this forum is run by Zionists, MI5 or lizards?

We have now sunk to a depth at which the restatement of the obvious is the first duty of intelligent men. [Orwell]

Just to be clear mine wasn't a conspiracy as such, just an educated observation based on what I know about small arms fire.

Example if I was on the roof of Wembley stadium aiming into a crowd of 22 thousand at the front of a concert, with a silencer, an unlimited supply of rounds already bombed up in a magazine and 11 minutes of firing time the death toll would be much much higher, whether he was firing indiscriminately or not.

The second point was that, everything else was organised meticulously with nothing left to chance, a week before he transfers money to his wife, as someone as suggested maybe this was some walkabout money before the claims against his estate started, which would mean there was lots of planning and thought going into this event, weeks before it happened. Not the acts of a crazed spontaneous lunatic more like someone who had been planning this for ages.

My only thought was he must have had help from somewhere, NOT that he was some sort of US government sleeper agent, or a lizard, or MI6, or even ISIS.

"It's not the bullet that's got my name on it that concerns me; it's all them other ones flyin' around marked 'To Whom It May Concern.'"