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the silurian The garden of England.(not really) 02 Sep 17 10.14am
Too many people blaming SP for not getting rid of the deadwood...Mutch, Chungy etc BUT if nobody wants them what is he supposed to do? They all have contracts and will just sit on them til they run out if no one wants to buy them. Likewise if players dont want to come to Palace, how exactly does SP make them play for us??? How many of you complaining about the lack of a new ground have ever had to go through planning applications even for an extension? Difficult isnt it? Imagine how much more difficult it is for a 40000 seat stadium, wuth complaining/moaning neighbours and Sainsburys objecting to everything...Do you really believe SP isnt trying??? Dont you think he may be embarrassed by Selhurst as it is....Fools if you really think that!!! Edited by the silurian (02 Sep 2017 10.18am)
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The garden of England.(not really) 02 Sep 17 10.14am

Too many people blaming SP for not getting rid of the deadwood...Mutch, Chungy etc BUT if nobody wants them what is he supposed to do? They all have contracts and will just sit on them til they run out if no one wants to buy them. Likewise if players dont want to come to Palace, how exactly does SP make them play for us???

How many of you complaining about the lack of a new ground have ever had to go through planning applications even for an extension? Difficult isnt it? Imagine how much more difficult it is for a 40000 seat stadium, wuth complaining/moaning neighbours and Sainsburys objecting to everything...Do you really believe SP isnt trying??? Dont you think he may be embarrassed by Selhurst as it is....Fools if you really think that!!!

Edited by the silurian (02 Sep 2017 10.18am)

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Den1923 02 Sep 17 10.28am
Originally posted by the silurian Too many people blaming SP for not getting rid of the deadwood...Mutch, Chungy etc BUT if nobody wants them what is he supposed to do? They all have contracts and will just sit on them til they run out if no one wants to buy them. Likewise if players dont want to come to Palace, how exactly does SP make them play for us??? How many of you complaining about the lack of a new ground have ever had to go through planning applications even for an extension? Difficult isnt it? Imagine how much more difficult it is for a 40000 seat stadium, wuth complaining/moaning neighbours and Sainsburys objecting to everything...Do you really believe SP isnt trying??? Dont you think he may be embarrassed by Selhurst as it is....Fools if you really think that!!! Edited by the silurian (02 Sep 2017 10.18am)
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02 Sep 17 10.28am

Originally posted by the silurian

Too many people blaming SP for not getting rid of the deadwood...Mutch, Chungy etc BUT if nobody wants them what is he supposed to do? They all have contracts and will just sit on them til they run out if no one wants to buy them. Likewise if players dont want to come to Palace, how exactly does SP make them play for us???

Edited by the silurian (02 Sep 2017 10.18am)

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Den1923 02 Sep 17 10.29am
Originally posted by Den1923 he can't that is part of the problem!
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02 Sep 17 10.29am

Originally posted by Den1923

he can't that is part of the problem!

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Rudi Hedman Caterham 02 Sep 17 10.47am
Originally posted by adrian b I find it hard to believe anybody who is Palace can accept our club will be forever scrambling for a few safety points every year, spending vast amounts on short term replacements and just be happy and relieved to maintain this position, season after season. The Palace way is to play honestly with honest players and develop our own. Parrish has shown a tendency to the first trait but now wants to make the change to a sustainable EPL outfit. Whoes with him? I am, that's for sure. It will initially be a struggle, but we have the right men in the right places and a setup to match. Who on earth thought this would be instant and easy? Edited by adrian b (02 Sep 2017 8.08am) Comedic post of the day. COYP
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Caterham 02 Sep 17 10.47am

Originally posted by adrian b

I find it hard to believe anybody who is Palace can accept our club will be forever scrambling for a few safety points every year, spending vast amounts on short term replacements and just be happy and relieved to maintain this position, season after season.
The Palace way is to play honestly with honest players and develop our own.
Parrish has shown a tendency to the first trait but now wants to make the change to a sustainable EPL outfit. Whoes with him? I am, that's for sure. It will initially be a struggle, but we have the right men in the right places and a setup to match. Who on earth thought this would be instant and easy?

Edited by adrian b (02 Sep 2017 8.08am)

Comedic post of the day.

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Midlands Eagle 02 Sep 17 10.52am
Originally posted by the silurian Too many people blaming SP for not getting rid of the deadwood...Mutch, Chungy etc BUT if nobody wants them what is he supposed to do? They all have contracts and will just sit on them til they run out if no one wants to buy them. I haven't seen anyone blaming SP for not managing to get rid of the players that you mentioned as we are all aware of the situation regarding contracts.
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Originally posted by the silurian

I haven't seen anyone blaming SP for not managing to get rid of the players that you mentioned as we are all aware of the situation regarding contracts.

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Dangermouse Hastings 02 Sep 17 11.42am
For the record we've never been an established top division club, like many others. Some of us are destined to just make up the numbers IMO. Reading, Hull, Sunderland, Wolves, Norwich, Derby, WBA, Burnley, Stoke, Watford, Bournemouth, Huddersfield, Middlesbrough, Villa and others. Do you really see any of them being big in the premier league in the future. Many like us had that chance during the old days, but now, again only my opinion, the only way is to be bought out by a billionaire or a country. Now let's just imagine SP selling out to a similar outfit to the one at PSG. They can't get planning permission for the ground and suddenly we're relocated to another party of the country. It could happen. If we do establish ourselves somewhat, then we become Stoke, not sure that fills me with joy. Still no one on this thread has come up with the alternative to Parish. Someone guaranteed to run the club successfully and actually make us this massive club we all want to be? That's Life And as funny as it may seem Some people get their kicks stompin' on a Dream. KEEP THE FAITH!!!!!
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Hastings 02 Sep 17 11.42am

For the record we've never been an established top division club, like many others. Some of us are destined to just make up the numbers IMO. Reading, Hull, Sunderland, Wolves, Norwich, Derby, WBA, Burnley, Stoke, Watford, Bournemouth, Huddersfield, Middlesbrough, Villa and others. Do you really see any of them being big in the premier league in the future. Many like us had that chance during the old days, but now, again only my opinion, the only way is to be bought out by a billionaire or a country.
Now let's just imagine SP selling out to a similar outfit to the one at PSG. They can't get planning permission for the ground and suddenly we're relocated to another party of the country. It could happen.
If we do establish ourselves somewhat, then we become Stoke, not sure that fills me with joy.
Still no one on this thread has come up with the alternative to Parish. Someone guaranteed to run the club successfully and actually make us this massive club we all want to be?

That's Life
And as funny as it may seem
Some people get their kicks stompin' on a Dream.
KEEP THE FAITH!!!!!

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Rudi Hedman Caterham 02 Sep 17 11.49am
Not sure I want to be allocated to another party of the country. Labour, conservative, UKIP? Kermit is wants us to kerb spending to an absolute minimum. A reverse of his politics so maybe it is possible. COYP
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Caterham 02 Sep 17 11.49am

Not sure I want to be allocated to another party of the country.

Labour, conservative, UKIP?

Kermit is wants us to kerb spending to an absolute minimum. A reverse of his politics so maybe it is possible.

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Mapletree Croydon 02 Sep 17 11.52am
I can't help notice Dan89 that you posted two dramatically negative posts back to back. I strongly recommend you lighten up. Man, this site is so awful at the moment. Thank goodness for the HF and their constant positive vibe. When it comes down to it we have a strong first team that should improve when a manager sorts out how to play them. No real weak link, even Hennessy is usually OK with a decent defence. No strength in depth so we are on a shoe string, here's hoping for few injuries,
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Croydon 02 Sep 17 11.52am

I can't help notice Dan89 that you posted two dramatically negative posts back to back.

I strongly recommend you lighten up.

Man, this site is so awful at the moment. Thank goodness for the HF and their constant positive vibe.

When it comes down to it we have a strong first team that should improve when a manager sorts out how to play them. No real weak link, even Hennessy is usually OK with a decent defence.

No strength in depth so we are on a shoe string, here's hoping for few injuries,

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Rudi Hedman Caterham 02 Sep 17 11.53am
We don't want to be a massive club. Just a club that can identify players a year or two in advance and plan accordingly, instead of the complete shambles of covering our f* ups since just before Souare's car crash. There are players out there. You need to invest before they're found that saves the money further down the line. Then the more stable you become the more chance there is on saving money on wages on almost all players rather than having to tempt them with more than you should need to. COYP**
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Caterham 02 Sep 17 11.53am

We don't want to be a massive club. Just a club that can identify players a year or two in advance and plan accordingly, instead of the complete shambles of covering our f*** ups since just before Souare's car crash.

There are players out there. You need to invest before they're found that saves the money further down the line. Then the more stable you become the more chance there is on saving money on wages on almost all players rather than having to tempt them with more than you should need to.

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Rudi Hedman Caterham 02 Sep 17 11.58am
No one has come up with an alternative to Parish? None of us could come up with an alternative to run any of the 100 FTSE companies. Doesn't mean they're not out there. The people at palace run and talk to people in football throughout the year. I think they'd be better placed than any of us on here anyway. We're not talking about running the club. We're talking about short and long term planning and running of football matters. Ffs that man is never Dougie freedman. A good scout yes. Sporting director of a prem club. That's a joke. Prem money should attract the best, not a complete novice, or possibly a yes man, which is possible. Edited by Rudi Hedman (02 Sep 2017 11.59am) COYP
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Caterham 02 Sep 17 11.58am

No one has come up with an alternative to Parish?

None of us could come up with an alternative to run any of the 100 FTSE companies. Doesn't mean they're not out there. The people at palace run and talk to people in football throughout the year. I think they'd be better placed than any of us on here anyway.

We're not talking about running the club. We're talking about short and long term planning and running of football matters. Ffs that man is never Dougie freedman. A good scout yes. Sporting director of a prem club. That's a joke. Prem money should attract the best, not a complete novice, or possibly a yes man, which is possible.

Edited by Rudi Hedman (02 Sep 2017 11.59am)

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Den1923 02 Sep 17 12.05pm
Originally posted by Dangermouse For the record we've never been an established top division club, like many others. Some of us are destined to just make up the numbers IMO. Reading, Hull, Sunderland, Wolves, Norwich, Derby, WBA, Burnley, Stoke, Watford, Bournemouth, Huddersfield, Middlesbrough, Villa and others. Do you really see any of them being big in the premier league in the future. Many like us had that chance during the old days, but now, again only my opinion, the only way is to be bought out by a billionaire or a country. Now let's just imagine SP selling out to a similar outfit to the one at PSG. They can't get planning permission for the ground and suddenly we're relocated to another party of the country. It could happen. If we do establish ourselves somewhat, then we become Stoke, not sure that fills me with joy. Still no one on this thread has come up with the alternative to Parish. Someone guaranteed to run the club successfully and actually make us this massive club we all want to be? There is absolutely no reason why CP cannot be an established PL team winning most home matches, picking up the odd away draw or win and enjoy life as a mid table team, like for example Soton, WBA, Stoke etc, I for one would be more than happy. It is not for us to come up with alternative to SP that is the job of the board, they should as part of their on going responsibility review the clubs performance year on year and see what progress we are making which during our latest spell in the PL clearly shows that we are not doing very well. This is a results business, the income stream relies very much on remaining in PL and goes once we slip back in to the championship. The number of Managers we have had is a weak point and will add to the problem as we lose consistency and players do no like coming to clubs with an unstable management record. SP has to be accountable for this and some of our sick players who have come in at great cost to the club and then spend most of the time not available, couple this with our poor home record over the period and it all points to a problem in the clubs leadership and guess who is responsible for that?
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02 Sep 17 12.05pm

Originally posted by Dangermouse

There is absolutely no reason why CP cannot be an established PL team winning most home matches, picking up the odd away draw or win and enjoy life as a mid table team, like for example Soton, WBA, Stoke etc, I for one would be more than happy. It is not for us to come up with alternative to SP that is the job of the board, they should as part of their on going responsibility review the clubs performance year on year and see what progress we are making which during our latest spell in the PL clearly shows that we are not doing very well. This is a results business, the income stream relies very much on remaining in PL and goes once we slip back in to the championship. The number of Managers we have had is a weak point and will add to the problem as we lose consistency and players do no like coming to clubs with an unstable management record. SP has to be accountable for this and some of our sick players who have come in at great cost to the club and then spend most of the time not available, couple this with our poor home record over the period and it all points to a problem in the clubs leadership and guess who is responsible for that?

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Dangermouse Hastings 02 Sep 17 12.48pm
So we constantly lose at home because of the chairman? Really? There are 13 reasons why us like many can't become established. After the big 7 clubs the rest are all one bad season from relegation. That's the nature of the league we are in. As far as I can make out only one manager has been sacked since we came up, the others had their own reasons for quitting, retiring and storming out in a strop. Maybe SP is the reason and it's his fault, maybe it's not? Come on all you in the know tell me the actual facts about the departures? Your sources would be appreciated. I still want your names for successors, if only so I know who to blame if they royally f*** up. That's Life And as funny as it may seem Some people get their kicks stompin' on a Dream. KEEP THE FAITH!!!!!
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Hastings 02 Sep 17 12.48pm

So we constantly lose at home because of the chairman? Really?
There are 13 reasons why us like many can't become established. After the big 7 clubs the rest are all one bad season from relegation. That's the nature of the league we are in. As far as I can make out only one manager has been sacked since we came up, the others had their own reasons for quitting, retiring and storming out in a strop. Maybe SP is the reason and it's his fault, maybe it's not? Come on all you in the know tell me the actual facts about the departures? Your sources would be appreciated.
I still want your names for successors, if only so I know who to blame if they royally f*** up.

That's Life
And as funny as it may seem
Some people get their kicks stompin' on a Dream.
KEEP THE FAITH!!!!!

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