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bexleydave Flag Barnehurst 25 May 17 12.36pm Send a Private Message to bexleydave Holmesdale Online Elite Member Add bexleydave as a friend

Originally posted by marktillson

Silva 8/13 on at pads power what do you think

I think there's a lot of money going on Silva; that is all.

 


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Dan89 Flag Se25 25 May 17 12.38pm Send a Private Message to Dan89 Add Dan89 as a friend

Originally posted by glaziermart


Where did I claim I spoke to Wilf Zaha. That's my opinion. Can silva not being in a relegation battle next season.

How the hell do you work that one out then? Do you regularly speak to Wilf??!! Football fans never cease to amaze me. They are judge and jury on everything!!! without any substance. By all accounts everyone was praising Silva for the way he organised a previously shambolic Hull team. They were getting decent results, and then they had one bad performance at home against Sunderland which cost them. It can happen. He is just as qualified to do the job as Jokanovic and Dyche are, and he is certainly better than Coleman & Hodgson, and a lot younger as well

 


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Monty the Eagle Flag Lima 25 May 17 12.45pm Send a Private Message to Monty the Eagle Add Monty the Eagle as a friend

My thoughts for what they are worth are that he is a great up and coming manager who has had success wherever he has gone. I include Hull in this due to the fact that they were on target for one of the lowest EPL points totals and am amazed that they lasted so long with all the problems on and off the pitch.

However, I just do not think he is right for Palace. For the 30+ years of supporting Palace we have never been a free flowing team. It has always been counter attacking or route one in the old days. Steve P even said in his interview on Hol radio that the problems at the start of the season were that we tried to change our style too quickly and I think this is what will happen if we sign a manager in the style of Silva. Mancini also falls into this category.

Personally I would rather see a manager who has built his career on the same style played by Palace. This is one of the reasons why Pulis and Allardyce did so well.

Edited by Monty the Eagle (25 May 2017 12.46pm)

Edited by Monty the Eagle (25 May 2017 12.46pm)

 

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Dan89 Flag Se25 25 May 17 12.46pm Send a Private Message to Dan89 Add Dan89 as a friend

Originally posted by Monty the Eagle

My thoughts for what they are worth are that he is a great up and coming manager who has had success wherever he has gone. I include Hull in this due to the fact that they were on target for one of the lowest EPL points totals and am amazed that they lasted so long with all the problems on and off the pitch.

However, I just do not think he is right for Palace. For the 30+ years of supporting Palace we have never been a free flowing team. It has always been counter attacking or route one in the old days. Steve P even said in his interview on Hol radio that they problems at the start of the season were that we tried to change our style too quickly and I think this is what will happen if we sign a manager in the style of Silva. Macini also falls into this category.

Personally I would rather see a manager who has built his career on the same style played by Palace. This is one of the reasons why Pulis and Allardyce did so well.

Great post - dyche suits our style - 1m compo

 


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palace99 Flag New Mills 25 May 17 1.05pm

Originally posted by Rudi Hedman

Thank you for saving the rest of us having to respond. Give up from here though. I fear you'll be wasting hours of your life.

Totally agree Silva has a good record previous to Hull and did an amazing job to give Hull a chance considering he lost his best 2 players and had to sign a number of loanees. Yes away form wasn't great but that was an issue before he arrived too.
Yes they weren't great at Palace a few weeks ago but they did have a few injuries which couldn't have helped and then the 1st minute mistake ripped up their game plan.
I think in the end his small squad just ran out of steam in the last few weeks.

In terms of ambition please remember we are Palace.

Top managers won't come to us if there is a better option, it's that simple.
If Mancini was a great manager he'd have better offers than Palace, and that's the way it works.

To compare him with Pardew is a bit unfair. I think he's achieved more in a shorter career and has he never been sacked?

 

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Bangell Flag Oxford 25 May 17 1.05pm Send a Private Message to Bangell Add Bangell as a friend

Originally posted by bexleydave

I think there's a lot of money going on Silva; that is all.

Indeed. You can get 7/4 at Betfred so I don't think the bookies are confident about knowing anything we don't.

 

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NickinOX Flag Sailing country. 25 May 17 1.17pm Send a Private Message to NickinOX Add NickinOX as a friend

Originally posted by Monty the Eagle

My thoughts for what they are worth are that he is a great up and coming manager who has had success wherever he has gone. I include Hull in this due to the fact that they were on target for one of the lowest EPL points totals and am amazed that they lasted so long with all the problems on and off the pitch.

However, I just do not think he is right for Palace. For the 30+ years of supporting Palace we have never been a free flowing team. It has always been counter attacking or route one in the old days. Steve P even said in his interview on Hol radio that the problems at the start of the season were that we tried to change our style too quickly and I think this is what will happen if we sign a manager in the style of Silva. Mancini also falls into this category.

Personally I would rather see a manager who has built his career on the same style played by Palace. This is one of the reasons why Pulis and Allardyce did so well.

Edited by Monty the Eagle (25 May 2017 12.46pm)

Edited by Monty the Eagle (25 May 2017 12.46pm)

There have been a couple of pieces on tactics posted on the various threads, and Silva's teams are set up to be compact, hard to break down, and to play the fast counter attack.

I'd be happy with either.

 


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Willo Flag South coast - west of Brighton. 25 May 17 1.22pm Send a Private Message to Willo Add Willo as a friend

Originally posted by Bangell

Indeed. You can get 7/4 at Betfred so I don't think the bookies are confident about knowing anything we don't.

All the bookies are doing are reflecting betting patterns that's all.Punters are betting on hunches,speculation etc and the odds are set accordingly.

 

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We are goin up! Flag Coulsdon 25 May 17 1.29pm Send a Private Message to We are goin up! Add We are goin up! as a friend

Originally posted by Monty the Eagle

My thoughts for what they are worth are that he is a great up and coming manager who has had success wherever he has gone. I include Hull in this due to the fact that they were on target for one of the lowest EPL points totals and am amazed that they lasted so long with all the problems on and off the pitch.

However, I just do not think he is right for Palace. For the 30+ years of supporting Palace we have never been a free flowing team. It has always been counter attacking or route one in the old days. Steve P even said in his interview on Hol radio that the problems at the start of the season were that we tried to change our style too quickly and I think this is what will happen if we sign a manager in the style of Silva. Mancini also falls into this category.

Personally I would rather see a manager who has built his career on the same style played by Palace. This is one of the reasons why Pulis and Allardyce did so well.

Edited by Monty the Eagle (25 May 2017 12.46pm)

Edited by Monty the Eagle (25 May 2017 12.46pm)

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"That’s not to say the Marco Silva way doesn’t include elements of conventional tactics, though. Pacey wing play and a pressing game in defence are still important components in Silva’s style, but the real trick is to teach players the finer details of space, organisation and movement, so that they can make better decisions as a game progresses. Unlike other modern coaches such as Jurgen Klopp, the Portuguese’s first thought is to keep a clean sheet, rather than to out-gun their opponents. Even at a side with a crowd as demanding of dominating, attacking football like Olympiakos, Silva’s priority was organisation and defensive structure. His main form of attack is counter attack – the Greeks even used to joke that his side were so eager to counter, they would often consider giving the ball to their opponents just to break on them"

 


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Seth Flag On a pale blue dot 25 May 17 1.40pm Send a Private Message to Seth Add Seth as a friend

Originally posted by We are goin up!

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"That’s not to say the Marco Silva way doesn’t include elements of conventional tactics, though. Pacey wing play and a pressing game in defence are still important components in Silva’s style, but the real trick is to teach players the finer details of space, organisation and movement, so that they can make better decisions as a game progresses. Unlike other modern coaches such as Jurgen Klopp, the Portuguese’s first thought is to keep a clean sheet, rather than to out-gun their opponents. Even at a side with a crowd as demanding of dominating, attacking football like Olympiakos, Silva’s priority was organisation and defensive structure. His main form of attack is counter attack – the Greeks even used to joke that his side were so eager to counter, they would often consider giving the ball to their opponents just to break on them"

Sounds like what we do when we're most effective. Could be a good fit by the looks of that.

 


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ParchmoreEagle Flag Belair 25 May 17 1.47pm

Originally posted by We are goin up!

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"That’s not to say the Marco Silva way doesn’t include elements of conventional tactics, though. Pacey wing play and a pressing game in defence are still important components in Silva’s style, but the real trick is to teach players the finer details of space, organisation and movement, so that they can make better decisions as a game progresses. Unlike other modern coaches such as Jurgen Klopp, the Portuguese’s first thought is to keep a clean sheet, rather than to out-gun their opponents. Even at a side with a crowd as demanding of dominating, attacking football like Olympiakos, Silva’s priority was organisation and defensive structure. His main form of attack is counter attack – the Greeks even used to joke that his side were so eager to counter, they would often consider giving the ball to their opponents just to break on them"

Hmmmmm.... velly intellesting... You're making me change my mind about him as I was afraid he'd be all expansive, open play, and that his success with Hull was merely about the hype of a new coach. Reading the posts, I'm beginning to get the impression that he is more than a Pardewesque show-pony. Maybe we should get him. I've now put him ahead of my list just above Sean Dyche. I will let Parish know ASAP!

 


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Portuguese Flag Porto 25 May 17 2.20pm Send a Private Message to Portuguese Add Portuguese as a friend

Well we all have strong opinions when it comes to say something about Palace. I raised this point cause probaly I fall in the same category but if I'm not wrong probaly I was one of the firts to bring Março Silva to discussion (beginning of february in some posts) so unless something beyond the reasonable happens there's no question Março Silva is the man for the future and higher flights for Palace! COYP

 


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