I think sometimes it's the vehemency of the argument that can lead to that impression. I know it's BS as we are all Palace fans in our different ways. I'd be more interested to know how you manage CPFC with your glass half empty though? For me, my day to day is such that I need to at least keep the football positive!

Im 22. Possibly very young to many but vividly remember administration, promotion, relegation and general mediocrity whilst all my mates were moaning that the new arsenal kit wasn't as nice as last years.

I too am at the highest point ever of being a palace fan. Don't see the correlation between that and thinking the manager is s***e but am sure another smart Alec will find a link between the 2 and make it out as Me just being an immature plastic bed wetter.

We're the Arthur over ere!

This is what does for me. If AP goes on another long bad run or we're fighting the bottom 3 then SP will have AP out.

The last 2 runs of fixtures really say it all. He beat the sh1t and struggled vs the better and got nothing really. Played well in parts but prepared badly. Next up is Liverpool in hot form. If that continues into the beatable sides then we and he have a problem.

Unless SP has a target lined up its not worth moving AP out. The risk of it falling apart and being relegated for 1 or 2 extra places in the league. Kind of similar happened to Charlton. But if we're near the drop then the risk factor changes. He's just extended his contract so that's really how it is.

But that doesn't mean fans can't vent their frustrations with AP. He is average for this level but if average keeps us here then ok. When it looks like he won't they bye bye.

Unfortunately the talk of the FA cup final in the future will now have the memory of Pardew doing a stupid and embarrassing dance when he could've been sending out instructions. Shame.

COYP

I think the next couple of games are going to be very important. If we lose them, not only is this board going to go into meltdown, the players might start wondering if they're going to go on another long loosing run. If that happens we're in trouble.

Unless SP has a target lined up its not worth moving AP out.

Yes I was thinking the same. Unfortunately because of these types of runs a lot of expectation will be on the Burnley away game which you preferably don't want.

In fact until Christmas the next 9 games have us play the very very hard games at home and the more winnable games away. That can either be a good or bad thing. Let's just hope it's ok or better or it could be all change. See, I don't want him sacked purely because that'll mean our failure.

Thank God we beat Mboro, Stoke and Sunderland and played them when we did or I think we'd be in serious trouble and asking Keith Millen to draw a couple of games during the headhunting process.

Edited by Rudi Hedman (26 Oct 2016 10.25am)