Ok, my tuppence worth...

Firstly, we HAVE to stop all financial connections with the Saudis. If this means finding alternative forms of energy production, then that's fine. They are beheading more people than IS, most of the funding, weapons and ideology being spread is coming from the Wahabists in that state. Equally, the region in the world in which IS ideology is spreading fastest, the Yemen, is the country being carpet bombed by them at the moment, leading to what the UN claim is a Syrian situation created in just 6 months. For those of you concerned about refugees, well this is gonna be made a whole lot worse if the situation in Yemen continues.

Second, we need to have a far clearer set of objectives in the region. In my opinion, we should be assisting the Kurds in Northern Syria and Iraq, while also making clear that human rights violations, such as we saw in Iraq a couple of months ago, will be dealt with on an international basis. They are a far from perfect organisation, although I would say their principles of religious pluralism, radical democracy and gender equality make them by far the most encouraging group in the region. Supporting them, however, would involve holding Turkey to account for their coordinated airstrikes on Kurdish regions and blockade, and it may even involve supporting the Kurdish push for their own autonomous state in the long run.

On our part we should facilitate diplomacy in the area, invest in infrastructural development and education and generally attempt to rebuild a part of the world which we have left in ruins.

Domestically, and I know this will be unpopular, but I refuse to believe that the answer is to bring up the drawbridge. Yes, use intelligence services to track suspected terrorists, but as I have said, the people seeking asylum are the very souls running away from ISIL, people born and raised in a region in which their ideology is most prominent. For us to meekly withdraw assistance to these people will only increase animosity to the West, an animosity which IS thrives off. If we just leave millions of people in temporary camps in Lebanon, Turkey etc over winter, you can be sure that any respect and sympathies for nations like Frace, the UK and America will dwindle as fast as the health and population numbers of the refugees themselves. In this time of adversity and hardship, I believe we MUST show empathy and support to the most vulnerable, fight intolerance and ignorance with maturity.

And in that vein, rather than responding to your gay jibe with an insult of my own, I'll instead point out that I was merely responding to a claim Hoof made that Islam doesn't tolerate homosexuality. I could very easily riposte by saying that with your apparent views on gays you may fit in very well with the more extreme elements of Islam such as IS, but I will instead be mature and refrain fro doing so.

If punk ever happened I'd be preaching the law, instead of listenin to Lydon lecture BBC4

I've never agreed with anything Serial has posted.

He is exactly what this country or the west needs to reject.

'Who are you and how did you get in here? I'm a locksmith. And, I'm a locksmith.' (Leslie Nielsen)

..these terrorists want discrimination to spread against all muslims, it helps to isolate them even more to the extent where they hope the easily led amongst them end up sympathising with their views and going on to do the kind of things we have just seen in Paris, they do not want their so called fellow muslims to be living amongst us and not understanding their real views they hold with their religion, retaliation as in all cases just helps the perpetrators in feeding their hate, all wars, every single one of them is fed by retaliation and the understanding that they themselves are correct in what they are doing compared to the other side.

.......has our coach driver done a Poo'yet, without thinking about Gus!

..basically, isis is feeding itself.

.......has our coach driver done a Poo'yet, without thinking about Gus!

..the issue is arms, sympathisers for the terrorists views are utterly amongst us and integrated everywhere around the world, anyone with strong religious views of any nature is very capable of being swayed (it only takes one) and that is why it is so unfair to hold these prejudices against all muslims, you know that of course, but some on here are saying exactly the response isis dearly want.

.......has our coach driver done a Poo'yet, without thinking about Gus!

It's a problem.

During WW2 of course we had internment, which of course was done under the knowledge that the vast majority were harmless. Since then that idea has been attacked by liberalism. But of course it's liberalism that has taught us that we should enjoy multiculturalism, embrace gloabalisation like it's a good thing and accept high immigration rates. In short I view all of that an failure born of idealism over pragmatism.

I work with Muslims and I'm well aware that most don't support violence. However, I'm quite sure that most would wish Britain to be in their image....Why wouldn't they and I feel that secularism needs to be far more proactive in protecting and standing up for what was won over centuries breaking away from Christainity's grip.

Internment isn't going to work in today's emotive liberalised society. Like Hitchens said.....We are basically fecked. It's the fall of Rome all over again.....Like Rome its decline was slow but painfully obvious.

The birth rates lay it all out. Secularism is heading towards a fight that most of its adherents don't recognise.

'Who are you and how did you get in here? I'm a locksmith. And, I'm a locksmith.' (Leslie Nielsen)