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leggedstruggle  Croydon 28 Jul 15 1.37pm |
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Quote Stuk at 27 Jul 2015 3.38pm
The SNP won in Scotland because they're not the Conservatives/Labour/Lib dems etc, not because they're anti-austerity. Please stop trotting out that s***. Please equally stop attributing every new member to the Greens, SNP and Labour as being 100% down to anti-austerity. It's because they're anti-tory or this surge would've happened when austerity was implemented during the coalition government. Corbyn is a gift and a half to the Conservative party, no matter how (divided) Labour try to dress it up. The SNP won in Scotland because they were anti-austerity. Corbyn would be a problem for the conservative party by moving the centre-ground to the left. The SNP won because the Labour vote fell away - it's worth remembering that the Tories and Labour have the same number of seats in Scotland. The SNP won because they were not austerity lite like Labour have been. Why didn't the English electorate vote for anti-austerity parties like TUSC then?
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Quote Johnny Eagles at 28 Jul 2015 10.49am
Cameron: "We are determined to defeat extremism in all its forms." Apart from murderous terrorists who killed a member of the royal family and tried to assassiate a British prime minister. We invite them round to tea. Did they have Thomas McMahon round? Could have been awkward if they used the Mountbatten room. Remember its always a 'war on some terror'. The difference is that Cameron and the Queen talk to them out of political expediency. Corbyn talks to them because he supports them in their aims and tactics. Now you're just being silly.
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| Willo South coast - west of Brighton. 28 Jul 15 1.46pm |
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Quote leggedstruggle at 28 Jul 2015 1.37pm
Quote nickgusset at 28 Jul 2015 12.45pm
Quote chris123 at 28 Jul 2015 12.39pm
Quote ghosteagle at 28 Jul 2015 12.34pm
Quote Stuk at 27 Jul 2015 3.38pm
The SNP won in Scotland because they're not the Conservatives/Labour/Lib dems etc, not because they're anti-austerity. Please stop trotting out that s***. Please equally stop attributing every new member to the Greens, SNP and Labour as being 100% down to anti-austerity. It's because they're anti-tory or this surge would've happened when austerity was implemented during the coalition government. Corbyn is a gift and a half to the Conservative party, no matter how (divided) Labour try to dress it up. The SNP won in Scotland because they were anti-austerity. Corbyn would be a problem for the conservative party by moving the centre-ground to the left. The SNP won because the Labour vote fell away - it's worth remembering that the Tories and Labour have the same number of seats in Scotland. The SNP won because they were not austerity lite like Labour have been. Why didn't the English electorate vote for anti-austerity parties like TUSC then? I think the SNP did well as the Scottish electorate concluded they were the party that best stands up for Scotland and that Scottish interests would best be served by a strong SNP in parliament. To my mind it wasn't down to so called "Austerity".
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| ghosteagle 28 Jul 15 1.49pm |
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Quote leggedstruggle at 28 Jul 2015 1.37pm
Quote nickgusset at 28 Jul 2015 12.45pm
Quote chris123 at 28 Jul 2015 12.39pm
Quote ghosteagle at 28 Jul 2015 12.34pm
Quote Stuk at 27 Jul 2015 3.38pm
The SNP won in Scotland because they're not the Conservatives/Labour/Lib dems etc, not because they're anti-austerity. Please stop trotting out that s***. Please equally stop attributing every new member to the Greens, SNP and Labour as being 100% down to anti-austerity. It's because they're anti-tory or this surge would've happened when austerity was implemented during the coalition government. Corbyn is a gift and a half to the Conservative party, no matter how (divided) Labour try to dress it up. The SNP won in Scotland because they were anti-austerity. Corbyn would be a problem for the conservative party by moving the centre-ground to the left. The SNP won because the Labour vote fell away - it's worth remembering that the Tories and Labour have the same number of seats in Scotland. The SNP won because they were not austerity lite like Labour have been. Why didn't the English electorate vote for anti-austerity parties like TUSC then? I assume this is rhetorical.
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| ghosteagle 28 Jul 15 1.50pm |
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Quote Willo at 28 Jul 2015 1.46pm
Quote leggedstruggle at 28 Jul 2015 1.37pm
Quote nickgusset at 28 Jul 2015 12.45pm
Quote chris123 at 28 Jul 2015 12.39pm
Quote ghosteagle at 28 Jul 2015 12.34pm
Quote Stuk at 27 Jul 2015 3.38pm
The SNP won in Scotland because they're not the Conservatives/Labour/Lib dems etc, not because they're anti-austerity. Please stop trotting out that s***. Please equally stop attributing every new member to the Greens, SNP and Labour as being 100% down to anti-austerity. It's because they're anti-tory or this surge would've happened when austerity was implemented during the coalition government. Corbyn is a gift and a half to the Conservative party, no matter how (divided) Labour try to dress it up. The SNP won in Scotland because they were anti-austerity. Corbyn would be a problem for the conservative party by moving the centre-ground to the left. The SNP won because the Labour vote fell away - it's worth remembering that the Tories and Labour have the same number of seats in Scotland. The SNP won because they were not austerity lite like Labour have been. Why didn't the English electorate vote for anti-austerity parties like TUSC then? I think the SNP did well as the Scottish electorate concluded they were the party that best stands up for Scotland and that Scottish interests would best be served by a strong SNP in parliament. To my mind it wasn't down to so called "Austerity". Scottish interests and anti-austerity are linked.
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| chris123 hove actually 28 Jul 15 1.53pm |
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Quote leggedstruggle at 28 Jul 2015 1.37pm
Quote nickgusset at 28 Jul 2015 12.45pm
Quote chris123 at 28 Jul 2015 12.39pm
Quote ghosteagle at 28 Jul 2015 12.34pm
Quote Stuk at 27 Jul 2015 3.38pm
The SNP won in Scotland because they're not the Conservatives/Labour/Lib dems etc, not because they're anti-austerity. Please stop trotting out that s***. Please equally stop attributing every new member to the Greens, SNP and Labour as being 100% down to anti-austerity. It's because they're anti-tory or this surge would've happened when austerity was implemented during the coalition government. Corbyn is a gift and a half to the Conservative party, no matter how (divided) Labour try to dress it up. The SNP won in Scotland because they were anti-austerity. Corbyn would be a problem for the conservative party by moving the centre-ground to the left. The SNP won because the Labour vote fell away - it's worth remembering that the Tories and Labour have the same number of seats in Scotland. The SNP won because they were not austerity lite like Labour have been. Why didn't the English electorate vote for anti-austerity parties like TUSC then?
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| jamiemartin721 Reading 28 Jul 15 1.54pm |
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Quote leggedstruggle at 28 Jul 2015 1.37pm
Quote nickgusset at 28 Jul 2015 12.45pm
Quote chris123 at 28 Jul 2015 12.39pm
Quote ghosteagle at 28 Jul 2015 12.34pm
Quote Stuk at 27 Jul 2015 3.38pm
The SNP won in Scotland because they're not the Conservatives/Labour/Lib dems etc, not because they're anti-austerity. Please stop trotting out that s***. Please equally stop attributing every new member to the Greens, SNP and Labour as being 100% down to anti-austerity. It's because they're anti-tory or this surge would've happened when austerity was implemented during the coalition government. Corbyn is a gift and a half to the Conservative party, no matter how (divided) Labour try to dress it up. The SNP won in Scotland because they were anti-austerity. Corbyn would be a problem for the conservative party by moving the centre-ground to the left. The SNP won because the Labour vote fell away - it's worth remembering that the Tories and Labour have the same number of seats in Scotland. The SNP won because they were not austerity lite like Labour have been. Why didn't the English electorate vote for anti-austerity parties like TUSC then? Because they're not very popular. Still, once upon a time UKIP and the Greens were a nothing party in elections.
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| Willo South coast - west of Brighton. 28 Jul 15 1.55pm |
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Quote ghosteagle at 28 Jul 2015 1.50pm
Quote Willo at 28 Jul 2015 1.46pm
Quote leggedstruggle at 28 Jul 2015 1.37pm
Quote nickgusset at 28 Jul 2015 12.45pm
Quote chris123 at 28 Jul 2015 12.39pm
Quote ghosteagle at 28 Jul 2015 12.34pm
Quote Stuk at 27 Jul 2015 3.38pm
The SNP won in Scotland because they're not the Conservatives/Labour/Lib dems etc, not because they're anti-austerity. Please stop trotting out that s***. Please equally stop attributing every new member to the Greens, SNP and Labour as being 100% down to anti-austerity. It's because they're anti-tory or this surge would've happened when austerity was implemented during the coalition government. Corbyn is a gift and a half to the Conservative party, no matter how (divided) Labour try to dress it up. The SNP won in Scotland because they were anti-austerity. Corbyn would be a problem for the conservative party by moving the centre-ground to the left. The SNP won because the Labour vote fell away - it's worth remembering that the Tories and Labour have the same number of seats in Scotland. The SNP won because they were not austerity lite like Labour have been. Why didn't the English electorate vote for anti-austerity parties like TUSC then? I think the SNP did well as the Scottish electorate concluded they were the party that best stands up for Scotland and that Scottish interests would best be served by a strong SNP in parliament. To my mind it wasn't down to so called "Austerity". Scottish interests and anti-austerity are linked. Not in the UK's interest to go down the anti-austerity route but that is another debate.I'm sure Mr Corbyn will have something to say about that ! As for the SNP, their leader couldn't go on TV without uttering the word "Austerity".
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| Stirlingsays 28 Jul 15 2.06pm |
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Quote jamiemartin721 at 28 Jul 2015 1.54pm
Because they're not very popular. Still, once upon a time UKIP and the Greens were a nothing party in elections.
The problem with the hard left is that while some of their policies like re-nationalisation and protection of services, increased house building will always gain support from a cross section of society.....Even some Tories in some respects...All together it would probably ruin us.......Other policies though completely close support off. Defence spending....CND nuclear disarmament. Anti Americanism.......Egalitarianism on a major scale in action. Edited by Stirlingsays (28 Jul 2015 2.07pm)
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| ghosteagle 28 Jul 15 2.07pm |
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Quote Willo at 28 Jul 2015 1.55pm
Quote ghosteagle at 28 Jul 2015 1.50pm
Quote Willo at 28 Jul 2015 1.46pm
Quote leggedstruggle at 28 Jul 2015 1.37pm
Quote nickgusset at 28 Jul 2015 12.45pm
Quote chris123 at 28 Jul 2015 12.39pm
Quote ghosteagle at 28 Jul 2015 12.34pm
Quote Stuk at 27 Jul 2015 3.38pm
The SNP won in Scotland because they're not the Conservatives/Labour/Lib dems etc, not because they're anti-austerity. Please stop trotting out that s***. Please equally stop attributing every new member to the Greens, SNP and Labour as being 100% down to anti-austerity. It's because they're anti-tory or this surge would've happened when austerity was implemented during the coalition government. Corbyn is a gift and a half to the Conservative party, no matter how (divided) Labour try to dress it up. The SNP won in Scotland because they were anti-austerity. Corbyn would be a problem for the conservative party by moving the centre-ground to the left. The SNP won because the Labour vote fell away - it's worth remembering that the Tories and Labour have the same number of seats in Scotland. The SNP won because they were not austerity lite like Labour have been. Why didn't the English electorate vote for anti-austerity parties like TUSC then? I think the SNP did well as the Scottish electorate concluded they were the party that best stands up for Scotland and that Scottish interests would best be served by a strong SNP in parliament. To my mind it wasn't down to so called "Austerity". Scottish interests and anti-austerity are linked. Not in the UK's interest to go down the anti-austerity route but that is another debate.I'm sure Mr Corbyn will have something to say about that ! As for the SNP, their leader couldn't go on TV without uttering the word "Austerity". Well, considering its effect upon this country and Scotland in particular i can see why she zero-ed in on it.
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| Stirlingsays 28 Jul 15 2.09pm |
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Quote Willo at 28 Jul 2015 1.55pm
Quote ghosteagle at 28 Jul 2015 1.50pm
Quote Willo at 28 Jul 2015 1.46pm
Quote leggedstruggle at 28 Jul 2015 1.37pm
Quote nickgusset at 28 Jul 2015 12.45pm
Quote chris123 at 28 Jul 2015 12.39pm
Quote ghosteagle at 28 Jul 2015 12.34pm
Quote Stuk at 27 Jul 2015 3.38pm
The SNP won in Scotland because they're not the Conservatives/Labour/Lib dems etc, not because they're anti-austerity. Please stop trotting out that s***. Please equally stop attributing every new member to the Greens, SNP and Labour as being 100% down to anti-austerity. It's because they're anti-tory or this surge would've happened when austerity was implemented during the coalition government. Corbyn is a gift and a half to the Conservative party, no matter how (divided) Labour try to dress it up. The SNP won in Scotland because they were anti-austerity. Corbyn would be a problem for the conservative party by moving the centre-ground to the left. The SNP won because the Labour vote fell away - it's worth remembering that the Tories and Labour have the same number of seats in Scotland. The SNP won because they were not austerity lite like Labour have been. Why didn't the English electorate vote for anti-austerity parties like TUSC then? I think the SNP did well as the Scottish electorate concluded they were the party that best stands up for Scotland and that Scottish interests would best be served by a strong SNP in parliament. To my mind it wasn't down to so called "Austerity". Scottish interests and anti-austerity are linked. Not in the UK's interest to go down the anti-austerity route but that is another debate.I'm sure Mr Corbyn will have something to say about that ! As for the SNP, their leader couldn't go on TV without uttering the word "Austerity".
The Scottish are going to find that continually voting for the SNP gets them independence whether they want it or not.
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Quote Stirlingsays at 28 Jul 2015 2.06pm
Quote jamiemartin721 at 28 Jul 2015 1.54pm
Because they're not very popular. Still, once upon a time UKIP and the Greens were a nothing party in elections.
The problem with the hard left is that while some of their policies like re-nationalisation and protection of services, increased house building will always gain support from a cross section of society.....Even some Tories in some respects...All together it would probably ruin us.......Other policies though completely close support off. Defence spending....CND nuclear disarmament. Anti Americanism.......Egalitarianism on a major scale in action. Edited by Stirlingsays (28 Jul 2015 2.07pm) Tbf at least they are upfront about defence spending unlike George 'porky pies' Osborne [Link]
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