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fed up eagle Between Horley, Surrey and Preston... 22 Jul 15 8.10pm | |
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If the Human Rights act is scrapped then that would be the best thing that could happen. Because of this criminal's and terrorist's charter we can't get rid of these f**k**g parasites who come over here stowed away on the back of trucks and come here to claim benefits and enjoy a health system that they've NEVER even contributed to. It's the reason why prisoners may get the vote, it's the reason that people are allowed to sue over something that happened over 100 hundred years ago ie people suing over the slave trade. It's the reason that terrorists, murderers and rapists have more bloody rights than their victims. Screw the human rights act and screw the European Court of Human Rights. The sooner we're without these riduclous acts the better. it can only be an improvement if the Human Rights Act is consigned to the dustbin of history.
Bloody human rights, getting in the way of giving people basic human rights.
You expect this lot (let alone any other lot) to come up with anything 'common sense' f***ing hell, people are so gullible for abstract nouns... What would be part of a 'common sense' bill of human rights? Have a look through the current Human rights act and tell us what should be removed, in your opinion. I've had a look through and there seem to be enough legal caveats to cover terrorism.
How many instances of the flouting of the human rights act , the sort that you are alluding to, are there in the UK per year?
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Quote The Human rights act is an absolute disaster. I'll tell you what rights immigrants shouldn't have the right to coming here and ripping the dam system off for a start. I don't pay my taxes to support some scum bag who hates our way of life but will willingly take our charity. The current levels of immigration are totally unsustainable. Half these cockroaches should be deported and not let back in. I don't expect any politician of any political persuasion to come up with anything common sense, especially those of left leaning views. As for what should be removed from the current human rights act? Well I wouldn't remove anything......I'd tear the whole dam thing up. It was because of the human rights act that we couldn't get rid of captain hook for the best part of ten years, that Choudary couldn't be deported because of his 'right to a family life'. What about the god dam right of the people of this country not to be blown up on their daily commute? Hell there was even some judge who refused to deport an immigrant, WHO WAS HERE ILLEGALY, because he had a cat, and therefore had 'a family life' in this country. My view will NOT change on it, it should be ripped up, end of.
Do you even know what the human rights act contains? Are you saying because of one case involving a cat, where the judge was obviously an arse (I doubt the event even happened but I'd be happy to be put right) is reason to tear up one of the most important documents in recent history?
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nickgusset Shizzlehurst 22 Jul 15 8.19pm | |
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If the Human Rights act is scrapped then that would be the best thing that could happen. Because of this criminal's and terrorist's charter we can't get rid of these f**k**g parasites who come over here stowed away on the back of trucks and come here to claim benefits and enjoy a health system that they've NEVER even contributed to. It's the reason why prisoners may get the vote, it's the reason that people are allowed to sue over something that happened over 100 hundred years ago ie people suing over the slave trade. It's the reason that terrorists, murderers and rapists have more bloody rights than their victims. Screw the human rights act and screw the European Court of Human Rights. The sooner we're without these riduclous acts the better. it can only be an improvement if the Human Rights Act is consigned to the dustbin of history.
Bloody human rights, getting in the way of giving people basic human rights.
You expect this lot (let alone any other lot) to come up with anything 'common sense' f***ing hell, people are so gullible for abstract nouns... What would be part of a 'common sense' bill of human rights? Have a look through the current Human rights act and tell us what should be removed, in your opinion. I've had a look through and there seem to be enough legal caveats to cover terrorism.
How many instances of the flouting of the human rights act , the sort that you are alluding to, are there in the UK per year?
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Quote The Human rights act is an absolute disaster. I'll tell you what rights immigrants shouldn't have the right to coming here and ripping the dam system off for a start. I don't pay my taxes to support some scum bag who hates our way of life but will willingly take our charity. The current levels of immigration are totally unsustainable. Half these cockroaches should be deported and not let back in. I don't expect any politician of any political persuasion to come up with anything common sense, especially those of left leaning views. As for what should be removed from the current human rights act? Well I wouldn't remove anything......I'd tear the whole dam thing up. It was because of the human rights act that we couldn't get rid of captain hook for the best part of ten years, that Choudary couldn't be deported because of his 'right to a family life'. What about the god dam right of the people of this country not to be blown up on their daily commute? Hell there was even some judge who refused to deport an immigrant, WHO WAS HERE ILLEGALY, because he had a cat, and therefore had 'a family life' in this country. My view will NOT change on it, it should be ripped up, end of.
Do you even know what the human rights act contains? Are you saying because of one case involving a cat, where the judge was obviously an arse (I doubt the event even happened but I'd be happy to be put right) is reason to tear up one of the most important documents in recent history?
Which parts aren't common sense? I bet you can't come up with more than a handful of cases where someone has made an arse of the whole thing.
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legaleagle 22 Jul 15 8.49pm | |
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Quote The Human rights act is an absolute disaster. I'll tell you what rights immigrants shouldn't have the right to coming here and ripping the dam system off for a start. I don't pay my taxes to support some scum bag who hates our way of life but will willingly take our charity. The current levels of immigration are totally unsustainable. Half these cockroaches should be deported and not let back in. I don't expect any politician of any political persuasion to come up with anything common sense, especially those of left leaning views. As for what should be removed from the current human rights act? Well I wouldn't remove anything......I'd tear the whole dam thing up. It was because of the human rights act that we couldn't get rid of captain hook for the best part of ten years, that Choudary couldn't be deported because of his 'right to a family life'. What about the god dam right of the people of this country not to be blown up on their daily commute? Hell there was even some judge who refused to deport an immigrant, WHO WAS HERE ILLEGALY, because he had a cat, and therefore had 'a family life' in this country. My view will NOT change on it, it should be ripped up, end of.
Do you even know what the human rights act contains? Are you saying because of one case involving a cat, where the judge was obviously an arse (I doubt the event even happened but I'd be happy to be put right) is reason to tear up one of the most important documents in recent history?
The contemporary BBC report sheds more light on the "claim": "Addressing party activists in Manchester, Mrs May attacked what she said were excessive uses of Article 8 of the European Convention on Human Rights - the right to family life. She said: "We all know the stories... about the illegal immigrant who cannot be deported because, and I am not making this up, he had a pet cat." Within minutes, a spokesman for the Judicial Office at the Royal Courts of Justice, which issues statements on behalf of senior judges, said: "This was a case in which the Home Office conceded that they had mistakenly failed to apply their own policy - applying at that time to that appellant - for dealing with unmarried partners of people settled in the UK. For the senior judges to come out with something like that would not be an everyday thing and illustrates how so much c..p is spouted by so many about the Human Rights Act and who frequently have no experience of actually seeing it in general operation in the Courts on a regular basis.Rather,they retreat into the blind prejudice comfort zone of a few instances,accurate or otherwise( (ie any "system" can be and is abused by a few, including those they support) and ignore the many more positives. Edited by legaleagle (22 Jul 2015 9.06pm)
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leggedstruggle Croydon 22 Jul 15 8.53pm | |
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We should make our own laws and enforce them in our own courts.
Funny how we bemoan other countries for eroding human rights, but don't fuss when theirs are about to be taken away from them. The majority of our laws now emanate from the EU. If we made and administered our own laws we could determine what we regard as human rights. We are quite capable of doing that without the help of European judges, many of whom come from countries that were either fascist dictatorships or communist dictatorships within living memory.
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legaleagle 22 Jul 15 8.57pm | |
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Please provide the evidence for the proposition that the "majority of our laws" emanate from the EU.
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fed up eagle Between Horley, Surrey and Preston... 22 Jul 15 9.13pm | |
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Please provide the evidence for the proposition that the "majority of our laws" emanate from the EU. It's a well known fact. We seem to be in hoc to the ECHR and of course our politicians, whatever party they belong to, don't want to miss out on the EU gravy train.
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fed up eagle Between Horley, Surrey and Preston... 22 Jul 15 9.21pm | |
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Quote The Human rights act is an absolute disaster. I'll tell you what rights immigrants shouldn't have the right to coming here and ripping the dam system off for a start. I don't pay my taxes to support some scum bag who hates our way of life but will willingly take our charity. The current levels of immigration are totally unsustainable. Half these cockroaches should be deported and not let back in. I don't expect any politician of any political persuasion to come up with anything common sense, especially those of left leaning views. As for what should be removed from the current human rights act? Well I wouldn't remove anything......I'd tear the whole dam thing up. It was because of the human rights act that we couldn't get rid of captain hook for the best part of ten years, that Choudary couldn't be deported because of his 'right to a family life'. What about the god dam right of the people of this country not to be blown up on their daily commute? Hell there was even some judge who refused to deport an immigrant, WHO WAS HERE ILLEGALY, because he had a cat, and therefore had 'a family life' in this country. My view will NOT change on it, it should be ripped up, end of.
Do you even know what the human rights act contains? Are you saying because of one case involving a cat, where the judge was obviously an arse (I doubt the event even happened but I'd be happy to be put right) is reason to tear up one of the most important documents in recent history?
The contemporary BBC report sheds more light on the "claim": "Addressing party activists in Manchester, Mrs May attacked what she said were excessive uses of Article 8 of the European Convention on Human Rights - the right to family life. She said: "We all know the stories... about the illegal immigrant who cannot be deported because, and I am not making this up, he had a pet cat." Within minutes, a spokesman for the Judicial Office at the Royal Courts of Justice, which issues statements on behalf of senior judges, said: "This was a case in which the Home Office conceded that they had mistakenly failed to apply their own policy - applying at that time to that appellant - for dealing with unmarried partners of people settled in the UK. For the senior judges to come out with something like that would not be an everyday thing and illustrates how so much c..p is spouted by so many about the Human Rights Act and who frequently have no experience of actually seeing it in general operation in the Courts on a regular basis.Rather,they retreat into the blind prejudice comfort zone of a few instances,accurate or otherwise( (ie any "system" can be and is abused by a few, including those they support) and ignore the many more positives. Edited by legaleagle (22 Jul 2015 9.06pm)
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leggedstruggle Croydon 22 Jul 15 9.24pm | |
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Quote legaleagle at 22 Jul 2015 8.57pm
Please provide the evidence for the proposition that the "majority of our laws" emanate from the EU. Of course the aim of the EU 'project' is to have all significant laws emanating from Europe, our Parliament would be reduced to a Parish Council.
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legaleagle 22 Jul 15 11.15pm | |
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Right,so the salient quote from your link concerning laws "related in some way to Europe": "All measurements have their problems and it is possible to justify any measure between 15 per cent and 50 per cent or thereabouts.” "A majority" as you stated means over 50% per cent,not somewhere between 15%-50%.
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legaleagle 22 Jul 15 11.20pm | |
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Quote The Human rights act is an absolute disaster. I'll tell you what rights immigrants shouldn't have the right to coming here and ripping the dam system off for a start. I don't pay my taxes to support some scum bag who hates our way of life but will willingly take our charity. The current levels of immigration are totally unsustainable. Half these cockroaches should be deported and not let back in. I don't expect any politician of any political persuasion to come up with anything common sense, especially those of left leaning views. As for what should be removed from the current human rights act? Well I wouldn't remove anything......I'd tear the whole dam thing up. It was because of the human rights act that we couldn't get rid of captain hook for the best part of ten years, that Choudary couldn't be deported because of his 'right to a family life'. What about the god dam right of the people of this country not to be blown up on their daily commute? Hell there was even some judge who refused to deport an immigrant, WHO WAS HERE ILLEGALY, because he had a cat, and therefore had 'a family life' in this country. My view will NOT change on it, it should be ripped up, end of.
Do you even know what the human rights act contains? Are you saying because of one case involving a cat, where the judge was obviously an arse (I doubt the event even happened but I'd be happy to be put right) is reason to tear up one of the most important documents in recent history?
The contemporary BBC report sheds more light on the "claim": "Addressing party activists in Manchester, Mrs May attacked what she said were excessive uses of Article 8 of the European Convention on Human Rights - the right to family life. She said: "We all know the stories... about the illegal immigrant who cannot be deported because, and I am not making this up, he had a pet cat." Within minutes, a spokesman for the Judicial Office at the Royal Courts of Justice, which issues statements on behalf of senior judges, said: "This was a case in which the Home Office conceded that they had mistakenly failed to apply their own policy - applying at that time to that appellant - for dealing with unmarried partners of people settled in the UK. For the senior judges to come out with something like that would not be an everyday thing and illustrates how so much c..p is spouted by so many about the Human Rights Act and who frequently have no experience of actually seeing it in general operation in the Courts on a regular basis.Rather,they retreat into the blind prejudice comfort zone of a few instances,accurate or otherwise( (ie any "system" can be and is abused by a few, including those they support) and ignore the many more positives. Edited by legaleagle (22 Jul 2015 9.06pm)
Stunning, and I agree there certainly is no telling some people.
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leggedstruggle Croydon 23 Jul 15 7.28am | |
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Right,so the salient quote from your link concerning laws "related in some way to Europe": "All measurements have their problems and it is possible to justify any measure between 15 per cent and 50 per cent or thereabouts.” "A majority" as you stated means over 50% per cent,not somewhere between 15%-50%. Do you agree that the aim of the undemocratic shambles (sorry, meant noble EU project)is to create a United States of Europe where all major laws are determined by unelected commissioners. Along with the disastrous Euro ruining the economies and defence forces that would never be used as the disparate interests in the shambles would never be able to agree on appropriate action. Oh and of course the mass migration of people from the poorer countries to the richer - although that would eventually even out when all the member states become as poor as each other.
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Legged. I take it that you think it's OK for people to call others a black c***. Speaks volumes I'm afraid. I don't think you should call anyone a c**t. Whether you use the word black as well, or fat, or bald etc, I don't think it matters much - certainly does not warrant a criminal prosecution. By the way, have there been any prosecutions of black people for calling white people 'white c****s? Your selective outrage at the use of the word black of course speaks volumes too. I'm not taking a stance. Just presenting what are Societal norms.
Poor trolling. Must try harder. My contributions were in answer to your own posting of a link about 'thought crimes', contrasting the left's support of the right of Islamic State supporters to have freedom of speech, but the likes of Terry not to. Terry was found not guilty of using racist language by a proper court. The politically correct FA punished him for political reasons. Is it a 'societal norm' to allow Islamic State supporters to spread their poison unhindered?
I just said that there is a difference between saying something as a personal opinion, and acting on an expressed view. If you don't think there is a difference between someone saying 'I don't like black people' and telling someone directly, to their face, to 'go back home' or calling them a black c**t then you're right. If however, you do see a difference between an idea or belief, and 'attacking' people on the basis of that idea of belief, verbally or physically then I'm right. I don't have a problem with people who express unpopular, horrible or even criminal views. Its when they act on them. Also, as the so called 'Thought Police' aren't actually murdering people for what they believe in private, its a hyperbole. I don't see how telling someone to go home is attacking them. I've had pub landlords tell me to go home; they weren't arrested and handcuffed - mind you I think they were under 85 years of age. The difference would be that there was just cause and it wasn't directed at you as an insult. If you really can't see the difference between the two examples, then that's fine, but your line in rhetoric is pretty poor.
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