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legaleagle 26 Apr 15 4.26pm | |
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Quote TheJudge at 26 Apr 2015 1.19am
And how is it going for them down in sunny South Africa since Apartheid was removed ? Have they all started living together in wonderful harmony ? Edited by TheJudge (26 Apr 2015 1.20am) Somewhat more harmonious overall than pre-1994,I'd say....but to cheer you up here's something to evoke the "good" old harmonious days of separateness. Edited by legaleagle (26 Apr 2015 4.48pm)
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An amusing post but flawed. We are not tlaking about some sort of enforced apartheid here, we are talking about natural bonds and preferences. ....................................................
Of course all our views are subjective and influenced by our ideological views,including your's.Indeed,very much including your's. You suggest that because I don't agree people generally within in the UK today (which was the point of your posts) prefer to live apart on the basis of ethnicity,I am therefore a uncontrolled ideological fantasist.That's just plain silly... As for your subjective view being backed up as you state by "statistical evidence",well on the basis of the only link you have posted so far... Btw,the philosophical underpinning of Apartheid's ideologues was that the races supposedly preferred to live apart and "develop separately"....that was utilised by the group in question upon gaining power in 1948 to try and force increased such separation...The Afrikaans word "apartheid" literally translates into English as "separateness".
Edited by legaleagle (25 Apr 2015 11.18am) And how is it going for them down in sunny South Africa since Apartheid was removed ? Have they all started living together in wonderful harmony ?
Edited by TheJudge (26 Apr 2015 1.20am)
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And how is it going for them down in sunny South Africa since Apartheid was removed ? Have they all started living together in wonderful harmony ? Edited by TheJudge (26 Apr 2015 1.20am) Somewhat more harmonious overall than pre-1994,I'd say....but to cheer you up here's something to evoke the "good" old harmonious days of separateness. Edited by legaleagle (26 Apr 2015 4.48pm) And encouraged by their new found liberty some decide to use their energy intimidating immigrants. Oh the irony.
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An amusing post but flawed. We are not tlaking about some sort of enforced apartheid here, we are talking about natural bonds and preferences. ....................................................
Of course all our views are subjective and influenced by our ideological views,including your's.Indeed,very much including your's. You suggest that because I don't agree people generally within in the UK today (which was the point of your posts) prefer to live apart on the basis of ethnicity,I am therefore a uncontrolled ideological fantasist.That's just plain silly... As for your subjective view being backed up as you state by "statistical evidence",well on the basis of the only link you have posted so far... Btw,the philosophical underpinning of Apartheid's ideologues was that the races supposedly preferred to live apart and "develop separately"....that was utilised by the group in question upon gaining power in 1948 to try and force increased such separation...The Afrikaans word "apartheid" literally translates into English as "separateness".
Edited by legaleagle (25 Apr 2015 11.18am) And how is it going for them down in sunny South Africa since Apartheid was removed ? Have they all started living together in wonderful harmony ?
Edited by TheJudge (26 Apr 2015 1.20am)
Really ? I don't think we sustain it. Just the opposite. We resist natural leanings in the interests of commerce. Generally, people migrate to make money not to live with other races or nationalities. Sometimes they are escaping oppression from other religious groups or races. Hardly an obvious indication that a rainbow nation has ever or will ever work.
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An amusing post but flawed. We are not tlaking about some sort of enforced apartheid here, we are talking about natural bonds and preferences. ....................................................
Of course all our views are subjective and influenced by our ideological views,including your's.Indeed,very much including your's. You suggest that because I don't agree people generally within in the UK today (which was the point of your posts) prefer to live apart on the basis of ethnicity,I am therefore a uncontrolled ideological fantasist.That's just plain silly... As for your subjective view being backed up as you state by "statistical evidence",well on the basis of the only link you have posted so far... Btw,the philosophical underpinning of Apartheid's ideologues was that the races supposedly preferred to live apart and "develop separately"....that was utilised by the group in question upon gaining power in 1948 to try and force increased such separation...The Afrikaans word "apartheid" literally translates into English as "separateness".
Edited by legaleagle (25 Apr 2015 11.18am) And how is it going for them down in sunny South Africa since Apartheid was removed ? Have they all started living together in wonderful harmony ?
Edited by TheJudge (26 Apr 2015 1.20am)
Really ? I don't think we sustain it. Just the opposite. We resist natural leanings in the interests of commerce. Generally, people migrate to make money not to live with other races or nationalities. Sometimes they are escaping oppression from other religious groups or races. Hardly an obvious indication that a rainbow nation has ever or will ever work. People have tribal aspects to them of course but this manifests itself in various ways, largely cultural. What you grow up around and educate yourself about largely indicates what is 'foreign' to you. Whether that's race, disability, nationality. That's why your seeming approval of apartheid is wrong. It helps to sustain and give the stamp of approval to a myth. Race is important not because it is, but people people think it is. Clearly you do, I don't.
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TheJudge 26 Apr 15 8.40pm | |
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An amusing post but flawed. We are not tlaking about some sort of enforced apartheid here, we are talking about natural bonds and preferences. ....................................................
Of course all our views are subjective and influenced by our ideological views,including your's.Indeed,very much including your's. You suggest that because I don't agree people generally within in the UK today (which was the point of your posts) prefer to live apart on the basis of ethnicity,I am therefore a uncontrolled ideological fantasist.That's just plain silly... As for your subjective view being backed up as you state by "statistical evidence",well on the basis of the only link you have posted so far... Btw,the philosophical underpinning of Apartheid's ideologues was that the races supposedly preferred to live apart and "develop separately"....that was utilised by the group in question upon gaining power in 1948 to try and force increased such separation...The Afrikaans word "apartheid" literally translates into English as "separateness".
Edited by legaleagle (25 Apr 2015 11.18am) And how is it going for them down in sunny South Africa since Apartheid was removed ? Have they all started living together in wonderful harmony ?
Edited by TheJudge (26 Apr 2015 1.20am)
Really ? I don't think we sustain it. Just the opposite. We resist natural leanings in the interests of commerce. Generally, people migrate to make money not to live with other races or nationalities. Sometimes they are escaping oppression from other religious groups or races. Hardly an obvious indication that a rainbow nation has ever or will ever work. People have tribal aspects to them of course but this manifests itself in various ways, largely cultural. What you grow up around and educate yourself about largely indicates what is 'foreign' to you. Whether that's race, disability, nationality. That's why your seeming approval of apartheid is wrong. It helps to sustain and give the stamp of approval to a myth. Race is important not because it is, but people people think it is. Clearly you do, I don't. It is not a question of approval. Nature has divided humanity into so called races in the same way that it created dogs and cats. Differentiation is a fact of biology, and that must be reflected in human behaviour.
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An amusing post but flawed. We are not tlaking about some sort of enforced apartheid here, we are talking about natural bonds and preferences. ....................................................
Of course all our views are subjective and influenced by our ideological views,including your's.Indeed,very much including your's. You suggest that because I don't agree people generally within in the UK today (which was the point of your posts) prefer to live apart on the basis of ethnicity,I am therefore a uncontrolled ideological fantasist.That's just plain silly... As for your subjective view being backed up as you state by "statistical evidence",well on the basis of the only link you have posted so far... Btw,the philosophical underpinning of Apartheid's ideologues was that the races supposedly preferred to live apart and "develop separately"....that was utilised by the group in question upon gaining power in 1948 to try and force increased such separation...The Afrikaans word "apartheid" literally translates into English as "separateness".
Edited by legaleagle (25 Apr 2015 11.18am) And how is it going for them down in sunny South Africa since Apartheid was removed ? Have they all started living together in wonderful harmony ?
Edited by TheJudge (26 Apr 2015 1.20am)
Really ? I don't think we sustain it. Just the opposite. We resist natural leanings in the interests of commerce. Generally, people migrate to make money not to live with other races or nationalities. Sometimes they are escaping oppression from other religious groups or races. Hardly an obvious indication that a rainbow nation has ever or will ever work. People have tribal aspects to them of course but this manifests itself in various ways, largely cultural. What you grow up around and educate yourself about largely indicates what is 'foreign' to you. Whether that's race, disability, nationality. That's why your seeming approval of apartheid is wrong. It helps to sustain and give the stamp of approval to a myth. Race is important not because it is, but people people think it is. Clearly you do, I don't. It is not a question of approval. Nature has divided humanity into so called races in the same way that it created dogs and cats. Differentiation is a fact of biology, and that must be reflected in human behaviour. This was gone from rough waters, or overboard as far as I'm concerned. As stated, there are very many ways that people do and don't differentiate. Sometimes it may be race, other times in some societies culturally race may not be so much of an issue, something else will be. I have plenty of friends of various races. You seem to keep implying that in doing so I am going against my nature. Nature has not 'divided' black and white people in any meaningful way, hence the many millions of mixed race children. To create an analogy comparing different races to "cats and dogs" suggests the distance you evidently view others, not the reality of the situation.
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nickgusset Shizzlehurst 26 Apr 15 9.07pm | |
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Sure I've seen research somewhere that shows children don't differentiate racially until they are 3 or 4 years old.
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Sure I've seen research somewhere that shows children don't differentiate racially until they are 3 or 4 years old.
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nickgusset Shizzlehurst 26 Apr 15 9.25pm | |
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Sure I've seen research somewhere that shows children don't differentiate racially until they are 3 or 4 years old.
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nickgusset Shizzlehurst 26 Apr 15 9.47pm | |
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Sure I've seen research somewhere that shows children don't differentiate racially until they are 3 or 4 years old.
I posted this in jest... Then I happened to read this...
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TheJudge 26 Apr 15 10.04pm | |
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An amusing post but flawed. We are not tlaking about some sort of enforced apartheid here, we are talking about natural bonds and preferences. ....................................................
Of course all our views are subjective and influenced by our ideological views,including your's.Indeed,very much including your's. You suggest that because I don't agree people generally within in the UK today (which was the point of your posts) prefer to live apart on the basis of ethnicity,I am therefore a uncontrolled ideological fantasist.That's just plain silly... As for your subjective view being backed up as you state by "statistical evidence",well on the basis of the only link you have posted so far... Btw,the philosophical underpinning of Apartheid's ideologues was that the races supposedly preferred to live apart and "develop separately"....that was utilised by the group in question upon gaining power in 1948 to try and force increased such separation...The Afrikaans word "apartheid" literally translates into English as "separateness".
Edited by legaleagle (25 Apr 2015 11.18am) And how is it going for them down in sunny South Africa since Apartheid was removed ? Have they all started living together in wonderful harmony ?
Edited by TheJudge (26 Apr 2015 1.20am)
Really ? I don't think we sustain it. Just the opposite. We resist natural leanings in the interests of commerce. Generally, people migrate to make money not to live with other races or nationalities. Sometimes they are escaping oppression from other religious groups or races. Hardly an obvious indication that a rainbow nation has ever or will ever work. People have tribal aspects to them of course but this manifests itself in various ways, largely cultural. What you grow up around and educate yourself about largely indicates what is 'foreign' to you. Whether that's race, disability, nationality. That's why your seeming approval of apartheid is wrong. It helps to sustain and give the stamp of approval to a myth. Race is important not because it is, but people people think it is. Clearly you do, I don't. It is not a question of approval. Nature has divided humanity into so called races in the same way that it created dogs and cats. Differentiation is a fact of biology, and that must be reflected in human behaviour. This was gone from rough waters, or overboard as far as I'm concerned. As stated, there are very many ways that people do and don't differentiate. Sometimes it may be race, other times in some societies culturally race may not be so much of an issue, something else will be. I have plenty of friends of various races. You seem to keep implying that in doing so I am going against my nature. Nature has not 'divided' black and white people in any meaningful way, hence the many millions of mixed race children. To create an analogy comparing different races to "cats and dogs" suggests the distance you evidently view others, not the reality of the situation.
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