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dannyh wherever I lay my hat....... 21 Jan 15 12.09pm
Quote ghosteagle at 21 Jan 2015 11.55am Quote dannyh at 21 Jan 2015 11.47am Whatless unrealistic flower power utopian bollicks, that whilst may seem to have positive sentiment at it's heart, is utterly unworkable, and more to the point totally unfinaceable. Unless of course all you workers out there are happy to pay most of your hard earned in TAX to feed to the workshy. IMO there is no difference between the trustafarians and the monster raving looney party. I must have missed that bit in the manifesto.... You didn't miss it, because it wasn't there. You see what I did was use my brain, and I kind've worked out that the spend of 280 billion, is going to have to come from somewhere, so lets put our thinking caps on a minute shall we, and have a little think about this hmmmmm.,how do Governments (since the days of Robin hood and beyond), raise funds ? Grow money trees ? Nope. Go to the end of rainbows to find the pots of gold ? Nope. Buy 20 lucky dips a week ? Nope. God this is a toughey...... No wait a minute, you know, by Jove I think I've got it. THEY RAISE TAX'S that you and I have no choice about paying. (unless your a fcukin thick one eyed porridge womble, then you can raise it by selling the nations gold reserves to Webuyanygold.com). "It's not the bullet that's got my name on it that concerns me; it's all them other ones flyin' around marked 'To Whom It May Concern.'"
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wherever I lay my hat....... 21 Jan 15 12.09pm

Quote ghosteagle at 21 Jan 2015 11.55am

Quote dannyh at 21 Jan 2015 11.47am

Whatless unrealistic flower power utopian bollicks, that whilst may seem to have positive sentiment at it's heart, is utterly unworkable, and more to the point totally unfinaceable. Unless of course all you workers out there are happy to pay most of your hard earned in TAX to feed to the workshy.

IMO there is no difference between the trustafarians and the monster raving looney party.

I must have missed that bit in the manifesto....

You didn't miss it, because it wasn't there. You see what I did was use my brain, and I kind've worked out that the spend of 280 billion, is going to have to come from somewhere, so lets put our thinking caps on a minute shall we, and have a little think about this hmmmmm.,how do Governments (since the days of Robin hood and beyond), raise funds ? Grow money trees ? Nope. Go to the end of rainbows to find the pots of gold ? Nope. Buy 20 lucky dips a week ? Nope. God this is a toughey...... No wait a minute, you know, by Jove I think I've got it.

THEY RAISE TAX'S that you and I have no choice about paying.

(unless your a fcukin thick one eyed porridge womble, then you can raise it by selling the nations gold reserves to Webuyanygold.com).

"It's not the bullet that's got my name on it that concerns me; it's all them other ones flyin' around marked 'To Whom It May Concern.'"

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ghosteagle 21 Jan 15 12.17pm
Quote dannyh at 21 Jan 2015 12.09pm Quote ghosteagle at 21 Jan 2015 11.55am Quote dannyh at 21 Jan 2015 11.47am Whatless unrealistic flower power utopian bollicks, that whilst may seem to have positive sentiment at it's heart, is utterly unworkable, and more to the point totally unfinaceable. Unless of course all you workers out there are happy to pay most of your hard earned in TAX to feed to the workshy. IMO there is no difference between the trustafarians and the monster raving looney party. I must have missed that bit in the manifesto.... You didn't miss it, because it wasn't there. You see what I did was use my brain, and I kind've worked out that the spend of 280 billion, is going to have to come from somewhere, so lets put our thinking caps on a minute shall we, and have a little think about this hmmmmm.,how do Governments (since the days of Robin hood and beyond), raise funds ? Grow money trees ? Nope. Go to the end of rainbows to find the pots of gold ? Nope. Buy 20 lucky dips a week ? Nope. God this is a toughey...... No wait a minute, you know, by Jove I think I've got it. THEY RAISE TAX'S that you and I have no choice about paying. (unless your a fcukin thick one eyed porridge womble, then you can raise it by selling the nations gold reserves to Webuyanygold.com). You failed to notice my sarcasm. That's fine, but forgive me if i don't take your maths at face value as i suspect it is wrong. You also failed to give any indication where your 'workshy' comment hails from, but i can see that you and logic are not good friends.....
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21 Jan 15 12.17pm

Quote dannyh at 21 Jan 2015 12.09pm

Quote ghosteagle at 21 Jan 2015 11.55am

Quote dannyh at 21 Jan 2015 11.47am

IMO there is no difference between the trustafarians and the monster raving looney party.

I must have missed that bit in the manifesto....

THEY RAISE TAX'S that you and I have no choice about paying.

(unless your a fcukin thick one eyed porridge womble, then you can raise it by selling the nations gold reserves to Webuyanygold.com).

You failed to notice my sarcasm. That's fine, but forgive me if i don't take your maths at face value as i suspect it is wrong. You also failed to give any indication where your 'workshy' comment hails from, but i can see that you and logic are not good friends.....

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Pawson Palace Croydon 21 Jan 15 12.19pm
Quote jamiemartin721 at 21 Jan 2015 11.42am Quote Pawson Palace at 21 Jan 2015 11.06am Quote jamiemartin721 at 21 Jan 2015 9.56am The Greens at least have one eye on the hurricane of a future that is coming, what with climate change, over population, diminishing fossil fuels, unsustainable population levels, diminishing oxygen quality, increasing conflict over resources and rising food prices. Not really something you can say of the main stream parties. The future prospects for the next two or three generations doesn't look too good. And it isn't something that's going to be fixed by quick short term solution. Of course that isn't a reason to vote green, but it is your childrens, and their childrens future. Gestures like carbon footprint tax and recycling household waste won't make a dent in it either. What is the point if countries like India, pakistan and China don't give a feck and are building more coal power stations by the day. The whole green tax thing is totally meaningless unless the worst offenders are brought into line. A recent example- a few years ago we were all told to buy diesels and now, it turns out they aren't as green as thought and now want to tax it to buggery! It's ludicrous! As for legalising memberships in terrorist organisations well the less said the better to be honest. Edit: Just noticed this gem... Access to benefits, the right to vote and tax obligations will apply to everyone living on British soil, regardless of passport. The policy book states: “We will work to create a world of global inter-responsibility in which the concept of a 'British national' is irrelevant and outdated.” I'm very much proud to be British- who are they or anyone else to take away our national identity? Edited by Pawson Palace (21 Jan 2015 11.08am) Well firstly, India is a different country, and arguably a political party that is motivated towards environmental issues of the future, is far more likely to pursue policy that encourages such countries towards a mutually benefical resolution. In terms of countries like India, in order to obtain a decrease in pollution output. I can't see any of the major parties being willing to 'give much away' as they're happy to see pollution from manufacturing exported to the third world. The concept of a English National, is increasingly irrelevant as a concept, irrespective of what people would like to believe, as the definitive economic generation is trans-national and facilitated through pan-global corporations. They aren't taking away your identity, they're essentially putting it in to a real world context. Nation is a diminishing source of influence on the world stage, where increasingly problems and solutions need to be embraced trans-nationally. Indeed, British as a concept, exists entirely on the basis of international finance companies that do business here and our position in the world is entirely tied into those other nations. Which kind of ties into your first point, the solution for pollution cannot be resolved by nations independently, the solution has to be sought on a multi-national scale. A situation that increasingly is becoming the case (the problems of the third world are increasingly becoming those of the first world). We can't just think 'British' anymore and expect that to be sufficient to progress into the next century. I would say the working man is already being squeezed with additional tax and levies on pollution, directly or indirectly, let alone further taxation on top. I don't really think it's "fair" that this country is further burdened when our emission output is a mere fart in the wind compared to other countries. Not to mention they want to actually shrink the economy so not only will you be earning less- you'll also be paying more tax for something which in the grand scheme of things is achieving the square root of f*ck all. By also whacking tax on resource consumption like wood and minerals and then adding in levies from overseas produced goods how we can be globalised when they intend to actively discourage it? It seems double standards to me! We have to think British if we are going to go backwards with free trade movement! Who the hell else is going to produce, invent and innovate? Pride of South London Upper Holmesdale Block P
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Croydon 21 Jan 15 12.19pm

Quote jamiemartin721 at 21 Jan 2015 11.42am

Quote Pawson Palace at 21 Jan 2015 11.06am

Quote jamiemartin721 at 21 Jan 2015 9.56am

The Greens at least have one eye on the hurricane of a future that is coming, what with climate change, over population, diminishing fossil fuels, unsustainable population levels, diminishing oxygen quality, increasing conflict over resources and rising food prices. Not really something you can say of the main stream parties.

The future prospects for the next two or three generations doesn't look too good. And it isn't something that's going to be fixed by quick short term solution.

Of course that isn't a reason to vote green, but it is your childrens, and their childrens future. Gestures like carbon footprint tax and recycling household waste won't make a dent in it either.

What is the point if countries like India, pakistan and China don't give a feck and are building more coal power stations by the day.

The whole green tax thing is totally meaningless unless the worst offenders are brought into line.

A recent example- a few years ago we were all told to buy diesels and now, it turns out they aren't as green as thought and now want to tax it to buggery! It's ludicrous!

As for legalising memberships in terrorist organisations well the less said the better to be honest.

Edit:

Just noticed this gem...

Access to benefits, the right to vote and tax obligations will apply to everyone living on British soil, regardless of passport. The policy book states: “We will work to create a world of global inter-responsibility in which the concept of a 'British national' is irrelevant and outdated.”

I'm very much proud to be British- who are they or anyone else to take away our national identity?

Edited by Pawson Palace (21 Jan 2015 11.08am)

Well firstly, India is a different country, and arguably a political party that is motivated towards environmental issues of the future, is far more likely to pursue policy that encourages such countries towards a mutually benefical resolution. In terms of countries like India, in order to obtain a decrease in pollution output. I can't see any of the major parties being willing to 'give much away' as they're happy to see pollution from manufacturing exported to the third world.

The concept of a English National, is increasingly irrelevant as a concept, irrespective of what people would like to believe, as the definitive economic generation is trans-national and facilitated through pan-global corporations.

They aren't taking away your identity, they're essentially putting it in to a real world context. Nation is a diminishing source of influence on the world stage, where increasingly problems and solutions need to be embraced trans-nationally. Indeed, British as a concept, exists entirely on the basis of international finance companies that do business here and our position in the world is entirely tied into those other nations.

Which kind of ties into your first point, the solution for pollution cannot be resolved by nations independently, the solution has to be sought on a multi-national scale. A situation that increasingly is becoming the case (the problems of the third world are increasingly becoming those of the first world).

We can't just think 'British' anymore and expect that to be sufficient to progress into the next century.

I would say the working man is already being squeezed with additional tax and levies on pollution, directly or indirectly, let alone further taxation on top. I don't really think it's "fair" that this country is further burdened when our emission output is a mere fart in the wind compared to other countries.

Not to mention they want to actually shrink the economy so not only will you be earning less- you'll also be paying more tax for something which in the grand scheme of things is achieving the square root of f*ck all.

By also whacking tax on resource consumption like wood and minerals and then adding in levies from overseas produced goods how we can be globalised when they intend to actively discourage it? It seems double standards to me! We have to think British if we are going to go backwards with free trade movement! Who the hell else is going to produce, invent and innovate?

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EaglesEaglesEagles 21 Jan 15 12.28pm
In our current democracy (and probably in a single-party state too), the Greens would need unlimited money to achieve even half of their aims. They're not Green but red. I ain't got nuthin' funny to say. Sorry.
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21 Jan 15 12.28pm

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In our current democracy (and probably in a single-party state too), the Greens would need unlimited money to achieve even half of their aims.

They're not Green but red.

I ain't got nuthin' funny to say. Sorry.

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ghosteagle 21 Jan 15 12.37pm
Quote EaglesEaglesEagles at 21 Jan 2015 12.28pm In our current democracy (and probably in a single-party state too), the Greens would need unlimited money to achieve even half of their aims. They're not Green but red. And how is Wisconsin this time of year Mr senator?
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21 Jan 15 12.37pm

Quote EaglesEaglesEagles at 21 Jan 2015 12.28pm

In our current democracy (and probably in a single-party state too), the Greens would need unlimited money to achieve even half of their aims.

They're not Green but red.

And how is Wisconsin this time of year Mr senator?

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jamiemartin721 Reading 21 Jan 15 12.43pm
Quote Pawson Palace at 21 Jan 2015 12.19pm Quote jamiemartin721 at 21 Jan 2015 11.42am Quote Pawson Palace at 21 Jan 2015 11.06am Quote jamiemartin721 at 21 Jan 2015 9.56am The Greens at least have one eye on the hurricane of a future that is coming, what with climate change, over population, diminishing fossil fuels, unsustainable population levels, diminishing oxygen quality, increasing conflict over resources and rising food prices. Not really something you can say of the main stream parties. The future prospects for the next two or three generations doesn't look too good. And it isn't something that's going to be fixed by quick short term solution. Of course that isn't a reason to vote green, but it is your childrens, and their childrens future. Gestures like carbon footprint tax and recycling household waste won't make a dent in it either. What is the point if countries like India, pakistan and China don't give a feck and are building more coal power stations by the day. The whole green tax thing is totally meaningless unless the worst offenders are brought into line. A recent example- a few years ago we were all told to buy diesels and now, it turns out they aren't as green as thought and now want to tax it to buggery! It's ludicrous! As for legalising memberships in terrorist organisations well the less said the better to be honest. Edit: Just noticed this gem... Access to benefits, the right to vote and tax obligations will apply to everyone living on British soil, regardless of passport. The policy book states: “We will work to create a world of global inter-responsibility in which the concept of a 'British national' is irrelevant and outdated.” I'm very much proud to be British- who are they or anyone else to take away our national identity? Edited by Pawson Palace (21 Jan 2015 11.08am) Well firstly, India is a different country, and arguably a political party that is motivated towards environmental issues of the future, is far more likely to pursue policy that encourages such countries towards a mutually benefical resolution. In terms of countries like India, in order to obtain a decrease in pollution output. I can't see any of the major parties being willing to 'give much away' as they're happy to see pollution from manufacturing exported to the third world. The concept of a English National, is increasingly irrelevant as a concept, irrespective of what people would like to believe, as the definitive economic generation is trans-national and facilitated through pan-global corporations. They aren't taking away your identity, they're essentially putting it in to a real world context. Nation is a diminishing source of influence on the world stage, where increasingly problems and solutions need to be embraced trans-nationally. Indeed, British as a concept, exists entirely on the basis of international finance companies that do business here and our position in the world is entirely tied into those other nations. Which kind of ties into your first point, the solution for pollution cannot be resolved by nations independently, the solution has to be sought on a multi-national scale. A situation that increasingly is becoming the case (the problems of the third world are increasingly becoming those of the first world). We can't just think 'British' anymore and expect that to be sufficient to progress into the next century. I would say the working man is already being squeezed with additional tax and levies on pollution, directly or indirectly, let alone further taxation on top. I don't really think it's "fair" that this country is further burdened when our emission output is a mere fart in the wind compared to other countries. Not to mention they want to actually shrink the economy so not only will you be earning less- you'll also be paying more tax for something which in the grand scheme of things is achieving the square root of fck all. By also whacking tax on resource consumption like wood and minerals and then adding in levies from overseas produced goods how we can be globalised when they intend to actively discourage it? It seems double standards to me! We have to think British if we are going to go backwards with free trade movement! Who the hell else is going to produce, invent and innovate? I think they'd counter that its better to be squeezed with additional taxation, than your children inheriting an ever increasing toxic unsustainable human population with increasing fuel and food prices that ultimate start to scale up in to famine, droughts and fuel wars. I don't actually think the Members of the Green party are too keen on being worse off, but that the consequences of 'continuing to hum loudly, cover our ears and pretend that these issues aren't happening' isn't going to work. Me, I can take it or leave it, I think they're probably right, but I'll be dead within 30 years and have no kids, so I've not really got to worry about the future (Plus manifesto's are always far more 'written for the supporter than the reality of the policy'. But short of a world breaking revolutionary technological break through, the future is 'proper f*ked', in about four or five different ways. Everything on this planet is dependent on energy from the sun. About 200 years ago, we managed to find a source of 'old energy from the sun' (oil) that's driven everything for the last 200 years (including sustaining a population far in excess of natural means). "One Nation Under God, has turned into One Nation Under the Influence of One Drug" [Link]
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Reading 21 Jan 15 12.43pm

Quote Pawson Palace at 21 Jan 2015 12.19pm

Quote jamiemartin721 at 21 Jan 2015 11.42am

Quote Pawson Palace at 21 Jan 2015 11.06am

Quote jamiemartin721 at 21 Jan 2015 9.56am

The future prospects for the next two or three generations doesn't look too good. And it isn't something that's going to be fixed by quick short term solution.

Of course that isn't a reason to vote green, but it is your childrens, and their childrens future. Gestures like carbon footprint tax and recycling household waste won't make a dent in it either.

What is the point if countries like India, pakistan and China don't give a feck and are building more coal power stations by the day.

The whole green tax thing is totally meaningless unless the worst offenders are brought into line.

A recent example- a few years ago we were all told to buy diesels and now, it turns out they aren't as green as thought and now want to tax it to buggery! It's ludicrous!

As for legalising memberships in terrorist organisations well the less said the better to be honest.

Edit:

Just noticed this gem...

I'm very much proud to be British- who are they or anyone else to take away our national identity?

Edited by Pawson Palace (21 Jan 2015 11.08am)

We can't just think 'British' anymore and expect that to be sufficient to progress into the next century.

I think they'd counter that its better to be squeezed with additional taxation, than your children inheriting an ever increasing toxic unsustainable human population with increasing fuel and food prices that ultimate start to scale up in to famine, droughts and fuel wars.

I don't actually think the Members of the Green party are too keen on being worse off, but that the consequences of 'continuing to hum loudly, cover our ears and pretend that these issues aren't happening' isn't going to work.

Me, I can take it or leave it, I think they're probably right, but I'll be dead within 30 years and have no kids, so I've not really got to worry about the future (Plus manifesto's are always far more 'written for the supporter than the reality of the policy'.

But short of a world breaking revolutionary technological break through, the future is 'proper f**ked', in about four or five different ways. Everything on this planet is dependent on energy from the sun. About 200 years ago, we managed to find a source of 'old energy from the sun' (oil) that's driven everything for the last 200 years (including sustaining a population far in excess of natural means).

"One Nation Under God, has turned into One Nation Under the Influence of One Drug"
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jamiemartin721 Reading 21 Jan 15 12.51pm
Quote EaglesEaglesEagles at 21 Jan 2015 12.28pm In our current democracy (and probably in a single-party state too), the Greens would need unlimited money to achieve even half of their aims. They're not Green but red. I think you'd find that's true of most political parties that their aims aren't necessarily economically securable, and that they tend towards being long term goals. Of course in their defense, they can point to a very real 'apocalypse' approaching western civilization (and the world) to justify it. Which I guess is the important issue, that is conveniently ignored by the main parties. (Actually series of probable apocalyptic events, rather than the singular). "One Nation Under God, has turned into One Nation Under the Influence of One Drug" [Link]
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Quote EaglesEaglesEagles at 21 Jan 2015 12.28pm

In our current democracy (and probably in a single-party state too), the Greens would need unlimited money to achieve even half of their aims.

They're not Green but red.

I think you'd find that's true of most political parties that their aims aren't necessarily economically securable, and that they tend towards being long term goals.

Of course in their defense, they can point to a very real 'apocalypse' approaching western civilization (and the world) to justify it.

Which I guess is the important issue, that is conveniently ignored by the main parties.

(Actually series of probable apocalyptic events, rather than the singular).

"One Nation Under God, has turned into One Nation Under the Influence of One Drug"
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jamiemartin721 Reading 21 Jan 15 1.01pm
Quote dannyh at 21 Jan 2015 11.47am Whatless unrealistic flower power utopian bollicks, that whilst may seem to have positive sentiment at it's heart, is utterly unworkable, and more to the point totally unfinaceable. Unless of course all you workers out there are happy to pay most of your hard earned in TAX to feed to the workshy. IMO there is no difference between the trustafarians and the monster raving looney party. Well other than the fact that food prices are consistently rising, oil is increasingly diminishing, no alternatives have been found, that climate change is occurring, rampant corporate power, diminished capacity of state, that pollution is a global problem and that Ebola has very clearly demonstrated that a 'pandemic' is just around the corner. Whether it avoidable is another matter, personally I don't think it is, we are a species tend towards selfish short term stupidity, over long term objectives - which is why we keep having kids, even though we know we're f**king up their future for them. "One Nation Under God, has turned into One Nation Under the Influence of One Drug" [Link]
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Quote dannyh at 21 Jan 2015 11.47am

Whatless unrealistic flower power utopian bollicks, that whilst may seem to have positive sentiment at it's heart, is utterly unworkable, and more to the point totally unfinaceable. Unless of course all you workers out there are happy to pay most of your hard earned in TAX to feed to the workshy.

IMO there is no difference between the trustafarians and the monster raving looney party.

Well other than the fact that food prices are consistently rising, oil is increasingly diminishing, no alternatives have been found, that climate change is occurring, rampant corporate power, diminished capacity of state, that pollution is a global problem and that Ebola has very clearly demonstrated that a 'pandemic' is just around the corner.

Whether it avoidable is another matter, personally I don't think it is, we are a species tend towards selfish short term stupidity, over long term objectives - which is why we keep having kids, even though we know we're f**king up their future for them.

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matt_himself Matataland 21 Jan 15 1.05pm
Quote serial thriller at 21 Jan 2015 11.30am The one really great thing about the Greens I think is that all of their policies are decided from the bottom up, meaning they are a genuinely representative organisation for their members. Obviously they have policies many won't agree with, but what party doesn't? At least it's not some random think tank or lobbying business determining what the [arty does or doesn't fight for. Same as UKIP. I now expect you to vote for Nige because you agree with this approach. "That was fun and to round off the day, I am off to steal a charity collection box and then desecrate a place of worship.” - Smokey, The Selhurst Arms, 26/02/02
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Quote serial thriller at 21 Jan 2015 11.30am

The one really great thing about the Greens I think is that all of their policies are decided from the bottom up, meaning they are a genuinely representative organisation for their members.

Obviously they have policies many won't agree with, but what party doesn't? At least it's not some random think tank or lobbying business determining what the [arty does or doesn't fight for.

Same as UKIP. I now expect you to vote for Nige because you agree with this approach.

"That was fun and to round off the day, I am off to steal a charity collection box and then desecrate a place of worship.” - Smokey, The Selhurst Arms, 26/02/02

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ghosteagle 21 Jan 15 1.21pm
Quote matt_himself at 21 Jan 2015 1.05pm Quote serial thriller at 21 Jan 2015 11.30am The one really great thing about the Greens I think is that all of their policies are decided from the bottom up, meaning they are a genuinely representative organisation for their members. Obviously they have policies many won't agree with, but what party doesn't? At least it's not some random think tank or lobbying business determining what the [arty does or doesn't fight for. Same as UKIP. I now expect you to vote for Nige because you agree with this approach. Are the public really that demented??
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Quote serial thriller at 21 Jan 2015 11.30am

The one really great thing about the Greens I think is that all of their policies are decided from the bottom up, meaning they are a genuinely representative organisation for their members.

Obviously they have policies many won't agree with, but what party doesn't? At least it's not some random think tank or lobbying business determining what the [arty does or doesn't fight for.

Same as UKIP. I now expect you to vote for Nige because you agree with this approach.

Are the public really that demented??

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serial thriller The Promised Land 21 Jan 15 1.25pm
Quote matt_himself at 21 Jan 2015 1.05pm Quote serial thriller at 21 Jan 2015 11.30am The one really great thing about the Greens I think is that all of their policies are decided from the bottom up, meaning they are a genuinely representative organisation for their members. Obviously they have policies many won't agree with, but what party doesn't? At least it's not some random think tank or lobbying business determining what the [arty does or doesn't fight for. Same as UKIP. I now expect you to vote for Nige because you agree with this approach. Really? If true that surprises me, can you link me where it says so as I can't find it on the world wide web. Fair play to them if you're right. I probably won't vote to tell the truth, but it's good that you at least now have two parties rising to prominence with genuinely alternative opinions, rather than the stagnant state of our politics in the past 30 years. Also, to whoever said the Greens would need an unlimited amount of money to achieve their policies, have you not heard of quantitative easing? Edited by serial thriller (21 Jan 2015 1.26pm) If punk ever happened I'd be preaching the law, instead of listenin to Lydon lecture BBC4
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Quote matt_himself at 21 Jan 2015 1.05pm

Quote serial thriller at 21 Jan 2015 11.30am

The one really great thing about the Greens I think is that all of their policies are decided from the bottom up, meaning they are a genuinely representative organisation for their members.

Obviously they have policies many won't agree with, but what party doesn't? At least it's not some random think tank or lobbying business determining what the [arty does or doesn't fight for.

Same as UKIP. I now expect you to vote for Nige because you agree with this approach.

Really? If true that surprises me, can you link me where it says so as I can't find it on the world wide web. Fair play to them if you're right.

I probably won't vote to tell the truth, but it's good that you at least now have two parties rising to prominence with genuinely alternative opinions, rather than the stagnant state of our politics in the past 30 years.

Also, to whoever said the Greens would need an unlimited amount of money to achieve their policies, have you not heard of quantitative easing?

Edited by serial thriller (21 Jan 2015 1.26pm)

If punk ever happened I'd be preaching the law, instead of listenin to Lydon lecture BBC4

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Kermit8 Hevon 21 Jan 15 1.32pm
Shall I vote for that liar or that liar or the liars we are used to? Bloody hard choice these days. Big chest and massive boobs [Link]
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Shall I vote for that liar or that liar or the liars we are used to?

Bloody hard choice these days.

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