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Kermit8 Hevon 06 Jul 14 10.14pm | |
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So this latest episode was started by the peace loving and gentle Palestinians kidnapping and murdering three Israeli teens which the perpetrators knew would draw a response from the IDF and the more militant parts of Israeli society. Quite how some people can defend these people is beyond me. Who is defending them? These people:
Keep trying to twist my words Gusset. One more thing, as you didn't know the difference between deficit and debt reduction, would you like some pointers on the history of the Israel/Palestine situation? "unprovoked" stealing people’s homes and massacring them and then continuing to build new settlements on stolen land would provoke a far less patience response from the US and Britain if it happened to them than we expect of the Palestinians. "unable to act in a civilised manner" running over people with bulldozers and burning a teenager alive hardly places Israel in a good light in terms of being all that civilized For all the talk of Palestinians denying the state of Israel - which is not true in any case - Israel doesn't accept a Palestinian state.
What did the three Israeli teens do to he Palestinians that warranted their kidnap and murder? The Palestinians provoked this latest situation. Make no mistake.
I would have thought those poor teenagers were murdered by a handful, don't you? You should be more mindful of what you write. It comes across as inflammatory and I know a reasonable chap like yourself would not like that to be the case, would you?
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nickgusset Shizzlehurst 06 Jul 14 10.18pm | |
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So this latest episode was started by the peace loving and gentle Palestinians kidnapping and murdering three Israeli teens which the perpetrators knew would draw a response from the IDF and the more militant parts of Israeli society. Quite how some people can defend these people is beyond me. Who is defending them? These people:
Keep trying to twist my words Gusset. One more thing, as you didn't know the difference between deficit and debt reduction, would you like some pointers on the history of the Israel/Palestine situation?
You tried to slap a cheap shot at me, I simply gave you back what you aimed at me. Don't throw stones when you are in a glasshouse Gusset. Edited by matt_himself (06 Jul 2014 10.12pm) f*** off matt and debate the subject.
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matt_himself Matataland 06 Jul 14 10.26pm | |
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So this latest episode was started by the peace loving and gentle Palestinians kidnapping and murdering three Israeli teens which the perpetrators knew would draw a response from the IDF and the more militant parts of Israeli society. Quite how some people can defend these people is beyond me. Who is defending them? These people:
Keep trying to twist my words Gusset. One more thing, as you didn't know the difference between deficit and debt reduction, would you like some pointers on the history of the Israel/Palestine situation? "unprovoked" stealing people’s homes and massacring them and then continuing to build new settlements on stolen land would provoke a far less patience response from the US and Britain if it happened to them than we expect of the Palestinians. "unable to act in a civilised manner" running over people with bulldozers and burning a teenager alive hardly places Israel in a good light in terms of being all that civilized For all the talk of Palestinians denying the state of Israel - which is not true in any case - Israel doesn't accept a Palestinian state.
What did the three Israeli teens do to he Palestinians that warranted their kidnap and murder? The Palestinians provoked this latest situation. Make no mistake.
I would have thought those poor teenagers were murdered by a handful, don't you? You should be more mindful of what you write. It comes across as inflammatory and I know a reasonable chap like yourself would not like that to be the case, would you?
As for the second part, thank you for your condescending comments. However, isn't the point of a message to allow an exchange of thoughts? Or as they don't fit with your very narrow World view, they shouldn't be voiced at all? Is that what you are saying?
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matt_himself Matataland 06 Jul 14 10.27pm | |
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So this latest episode was started by the peace loving and gentle Palestinians kidnapping and murdering three Israeli teens which the perpetrators knew would draw a response from the IDF and the more militant parts of Israeli society. Quite how some people can defend these people is beyond me. Who is defending them? These people:
Keep trying to twist my words Gusset. One more thing, as you didn't know the difference between deficit and debt reduction, would you like some pointers on the history of the Israel/Palestine situation?
You tried to slap a cheap shot at me, I simply gave you back what you aimed at me. Don't throw stones when you are in a glasshouse Gusset. Edited by matt_himself (06 Jul 2014 10.12pm) f*** off matt and debate the subject.
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Stirlingsays 06 Jul 14 10.30pm | |
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I'm totally against the building of settlements in the west bank....It's a land grab for future negotiation and it's wrong in every way. On the other hand I detest Hamas totally and I've lost a certain amount of sympathy once Fatah decided to combine......I think that's a very big mistake. Hamas are toxic to anyone with any sense in the west and Fatah now have no influence nor foothold outside of their own people. Now when I look at that region I see a far right Israeli government....Which is basically kept in power by the reality of Hamas....But regardless Israel is a democracy and it's a ruby in a sea of surrounding corrupt stones. When I look at the Palestinian leadership I see an organization which continually makes the wrong long term decisions for its people and then blames the Israelis. They had the two state solution available and Arafat walked away. While it wishes to fight Israel it will continue to bury its own children generation after generation.
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nickgusset Shizzlehurst 06 Jul 14 10.30pm | |
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So this latest episode was started by the peace loving and gentle Palestinians kidnapping and murdering three Israeli teens which the perpetrators knew would draw a response from the IDF and the more militant parts of Israeli society. Quite how some people can defend these people is beyond me. Who is defending them? These people:
Keep trying to twist my words Gusset. One more thing, as you didn't know the difference between deficit and debt reduction, would you like some pointers on the history of the Israel/Palestine situation?
You tried to slap a cheap shot at me, I simply gave you back what you aimed at me. Don't throw stones when you are in a glasshouse Gusset. Edited by matt_himself (06 Jul 2014 10.12pm) f*** off matt and debate the subject.
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jamiemartin721 Reading 06 Jul 14 11.33pm | |
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Quote matt_himself at 06 Jul 2014 10.
What did the three Israeli teens do to he Palestinians that warranted their kidnap and murder? The Palestinians provoked this latest situation. Make no mistake. I think this highlights just how far from resolvable the Palestine-Israeli situation is, in that you have three Israeli teenagers murdered just for being Israeli and a Palestinian teenager murdered for just being a Palestinian. That's before you get into indiscriminate attacks on Israeli towns and the arbitrary 'targeted' air strikes and demolitions by the IDF. Its effectively become a war of cultures. Both sides were quick to blame the other, without offering any real proof, and quick to capitalise on events for political justification.
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jamiemartin721 Reading 06 Jul 14 11.37pm | |
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I'm totally against the building of settlements in the west bank....It's a land grab for future negotiation and it's wrong in every way. On the other hand I detest Hamas totally and I've lost a certain amount of sympathy once Fatah decided to combine......I think that's a very big mistake. Hamas are toxic to anyone with any sense in the west and Fatah now have no influence nor foothold outside of their own people. Now when I look at that region I see a far right Israeli government....Which is basically kept in power by the reality of Hamas....But regardless Israel is a democracy and it's a ruby in a sea of surrounding corrupt stones. When I look at the Palestinian leadership I see an organization which continually makes the wrong long term decisions for its people and then blames the Israelis. They had the two state solution available and Arafat walked away. While it wishes to fight Israel it will continue to bury its own children generation after generation. Realistically any solution will need to see the situation, economically, in the Palestine Authority improved to undermine the support and appeal provided by Hamas. Fatah itself is probably a spent force, that was largely held together by Arafat, and a generation of PLO leaders who were not 'Islamist' inspired. As it stands, neither side are actually interested in peace, as the 'continual' cycle of conflict suit their agendas, and neither side can actually win.
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matt_himself Matataland 07 Jul 14 8.24am | |
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The Israelis have arrested a number of suspects in relation to the horrific death of the Palestinian teenager: Now, will the Palestinians to do the right thing and identify the murderers of the Israeli teens?
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npn Crowborough 07 Jul 14 8.55am | |
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Surely it will all be fine - isn't Tony Blair still doing his peace envoy thing?
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ghosteagle 07 Jul 14 10.34am | |
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The Israelis have arrested a number of suspects in relation to the horrific death of the Palestinian teenager: Now, will the Palestinians to do the right thing and identify the murderers of the Israeli teens? I was under the impression that Hamas had denied responsibility?
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silvertop Portishead 07 Jul 14 11.55am | |
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Quote matt_himself at 06 Jul 2014 10.26pm
Quote Kermit8 at 06 Jul 2014 10.14pm
Quote matt_himself at 06 Jul 2014 10.04pm
Quote Bert the Head at 06 Jul 2014 9.56pm
Quote matt_himself at 06 Jul 2014 9.35pm
Quote nickgusset at 06 Jul 2014 9.26pm
Quote matt_himself at 06 Jul 2014 9.22pm
Quote nickgusset at 06 Jul 2014 9.07pm
Quote matt_himself at 06 Jul 2014 8.03pm
So this latest episode was started by the peace loving and gentle Palestinians kidnapping and murdering three Israeli teens which the perpetrators knew would draw a response from the IDF and the more militant parts of Israeli society. Quite how some people can defend these people is beyond me. Who is defending them? These people:
Keep trying to twist my words Gusset. One more thing, as you didn't know the difference between deficit and debt reduction, would you like some pointers on the history of the Israel/Palestine situation? "unprovoked" stealing people’s homes and massacring them and then continuing to build new settlements on stolen land would provoke a far less patience response from the US and Britain if it happened to them than we expect of the Palestinians. "unable to act in a civilised manner" running over people with bulldozers and burning a teenager alive hardly places Israel in a good light in terms of being all that civilized For all the talk of Palestinians denying the state of Israel - which is not true in any case - Israel doesn't accept a Palestinian state.
What did the three Israeli teens do to he Palestinians that warranted their kidnap and murder? The Palestinians provoked this latest situation. Make no mistake.
I would have thought those poor teenagers were murdered by a handful, don't you? You should be more mindful of what you write. It comes across as inflammatory and I know a reasonable chap like yourself would not like that to be the case, would you?
As for the second part, thank you for your condescending comments. However, isn't the point of a message to allow an exchange of thoughts? Or as they don't fit with your very narrow World view, they shouldn't be voiced at all? Is that what you are saying?
There are about 10 million Palestinians. About half live within Israel, mostly crammed into the West Bank and Gaza Strip. The other 5 million or so live in squalid settlement camps in neighbouring Arab countries, pretty much as second class citizens. Let us say that these are probably not places that most of them would like to live, many having been dispossessed of their homes by force by Israelis with many relatives being murdered in the process and within the lifetime of many. So, which of those Palestinians do you think deserve to be bombed? The ones who committed the atrocity or just a reasonable selection of them? Israel prides itself as being an island of democracy in an otherwise oppressive region and to a large extent that is true - in the way they treat their own people. The way they deal with [admittedly] terrorist acts from Palestinians is very much in keeping with the worst acts of their Arab neighbours. I see no distinction. It is simply insupportable.
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