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DANGERCLOSE London 27 Sep 18 3.15pm
Back in the day, i use to love singing in the arthur
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London 27 Sep 18 3.15pm

Back in the day, i use to love singing in the arthur

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Lyons550 Shirley 27 Sep 18 3.15pm
Originally posted by PZ Eagle Wrong they are documented FACTS. Just 7 out of 19 home games last season with the HF. And your opinion is just as stubborn, if not worse than mine because I don't want long standing fans kicked out of their seats just because a 100 or so fans threw a strop about not getting what they wanted this season. People have said that Arsenal is like a library yet they regularly finish in the top six so proving atmosphere is not the panacea for success you seem to think it is. Facts and Stats are two differing things...all you've done is offer a STAT to try and prove something that they can't do so as FACT. The only only thing you've got right is the number of home wins...but it's no FACT that with or without the HF this would be better or worse. So don't try and use it to falsely justify your bitterness....we all know you're unhappy with the situation as a number of us are. The Voice of Reason In An Otherwise Mediocre World
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Shirley 27 Sep 18 3.15pm

Originally posted by PZ Eagle

Wrong they are documented FACTS. Just 7 out of 19 home games last season with the HF. And your opinion is just as stubborn, if not worse than mine because I don't want long standing fans kicked out of their seats just because a 100 or so fans threw a strop about not getting what they wanted this season. People have said that Arsenal is like a library yet they regularly finish in the top six so proving atmosphere is not the panacea for success you seem to think it is.

Facts and Stats are two differing things...all you've done is offer a STAT to try and prove something that they can't do so as FACT.

The only only thing you've got right is the number of home wins...but it's no FACT that with or without the HF this would be better or worse. So don't try and use it to falsely justify your bitterness....we all know you're unhappy with the situation as a number of us are.

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Lyons550 Shirley 27 Sep 18 3.17pm
Originally posted by calgarycpfc I think we will see an HF presence of sorts at the next Wolves match, but can you imagine the display they will put on first home match of next season in their new environs...it will be epic! Edited by calgarycpfc (27 Sep 2018 1.59am) I'd be VERY surprised if there was a tifo for the Wolves game tbh...lets not build them up to knock them down again eh...but its a nice idea. The Voice of Reason In An Otherwise Mediocre World
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Shirley 27 Sep 18 3.17pm

Originally posted by calgarycpfc

I think we will see an HF presence of sorts at the next Wolves match, but can you imagine the display they will put on first home match of next season in their new environs...it will be epic!

Edited by calgarycpfc (27 Sep 2018 1.59am)

I'd be VERY surprised if there was a tifo for the Wolves game tbh...lets not build them up to knock them down again eh...but its a nice idea.

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Nobbybm Dartford 27 Sep 18 3.28pm
Originally posted by 20 Spaces Isnt Enoug Nobby...That's what I thought as well. which means current E Block season ticket-holders could run a [ secret ] campaign whereby they all say "YES... we want to be singers/standers etc." thereby preventing HF moving in. Or will SP still get rid of 100/200 of them even if they genuinely want to stand and sing? I'm guessing they'll know which existing ST holders wouldn't want to be a part of it on the basis they contacted the club to make that point when the rumour broke in the first instance. The Club now have a few months to resolve the issues (based on the usual Feb/March earlybird ST renewals). Will this be five? It's gonna be five! It IS five!
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Dartford 27 Sep 18 3.28pm

Originally posted by 20 Spaces Isnt Enoug

Nobby...That's what I thought as well.

which means current E Block season ticket-holders

could run a [ secret ] campaign whereby they all

say "YES... we want to be singers/standers etc."

thereby preventing HF moving in.

Or will SP still get rid of 100/200 of them

even if they genuinely want to stand and sing?

I'm guessing they'll know which existing ST holders wouldn't want to be a part of it on the basis they contacted the club to make that point when the rumour broke in the first instance.

The Club now have a few months to resolve the issues (based on the usual Feb/March earlybird ST renewals).

Will this be five? It's gonna be five! It IS five!

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PZ Eagle Penzance 27 Sep 18 3.56pm
Originally posted by Lyons550 Facts and Stats are two differing things...all you've done is offer a STAT to try and prove something that they can't do so as FACT. The only only thing you've got right is the number of home wins...but it's no FACT that with or without the HF this would be better or worse. So don't try and use it to falsely justify your bitterness....we all know you're unhappy with the situation as a number of us are. I keep reading in this whole thread that without the HF we could easily be relegated. Some prat even went so far as to say we would have easily beaten Newcastle with the HF there and someone else said Europe here we come when he heard the HF are back which is nonsense. I don't care about the HF one way or the other because by throwing a strop they have caused the lack of atmosphere everyone is moaning about and caused over 150 pages on this thread pitting fan against fan in what was always a family like club where all fans shared a love of the club and never fought each other. People may be correct in saying nobody owns their seats but people who have them and renew year after year are LOYAL fans who always put their money down without knowing whether they will be seeing a good side playing well or not. I would be willing to bet that the club have only ever not renewed season tickets where re-organisation is needed like moving the away section and possibly safe standing if it ever happens. I don't ever recall them doing so because a group of 100 or so fans throw a strop and virtually blackmail the club to kick people out of their seats so they can move. And I might add that "Atmosphere" never wins matches as 7 wins out of 19 proved last year when we had the best atmosphere in the league. Edited by PZ Eagle (27 Sep 2018 4.01pm) Conjunctivitis.com - A site for sore eyes.
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Penzance 27 Sep 18 3.56pm

Originally posted by Lyons550

Facts and Stats are two differing things...all you've done is offer a STAT to try and prove something that they can't do so as FACT.

I keep reading in this whole thread that without the HF we could easily be relegated. Some prat even went so far as to say we would have easily beaten Newcastle
with the HF there and someone else said Europe here we come when he heard the HF are back which is nonsense.

I don't care about the HF one way or the other because
by throwing a strop they have caused the lack of atmosphere everyone is moaning about and caused over 150 pages on this thread pitting fan against fan in what was always a family like club where all fans shared a love of the club and never fought each other. People may be correct in saying nobody owns their seats but people who have them and renew year after year are LOYAL fans who always put their money down without knowing whether they will be seeing a good side playing well or not.

I would be willing to bet that the club have only ever not renewed season tickets where re-organisation is needed like moving the away section and possibly safe standing if it ever happens. I don't ever recall them doing so because a group of 100 or so fans throw a strop and virtually blackmail the club to kick people out of their seats so they can move. And I might add that "Atmosphere" never wins matches as 7 wins out of 19 proved last year when we had the best atmosphere in the league.

Edited by PZ Eagle (27 Sep 2018 4.01pm)

Conjunctivitis.com - A site for sore eyes.

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m/k mick milton keynes 27 Sep 18 4.20pm
PZ Eagle, sadly you are wrong, just three years ago I and about 50 others were moved, my seat was in the Directors Box, roughly the four rows, either side, just in front of where Parish sits, the reason for our move, " the four owners need seats for family and guests in the area". I was fortunate to find another seat in the Directors Box, although I and others were annoyed we accepted, I do feel for those that may be moved, but the reasoning behind it is sound
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milton keynes 27 Sep 18 4.20pm

PZ Eagle, sadly you are wrong, just three years ago I and about 50 others were moved, my seat was in the Directors Box, roughly the four rows, either side, just in front of where Parish sits, the reason for our move, " the four owners need seats for family and guests in the area". I was fortunate to find another seat in the Directors Box, although I and others were annoyed we accepted, I do feel for those that may be moved, but the reasoning behind it is sound

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michaelpearce grays 27 Sep 18 4.25pm
Originally posted by Lyons550 Facts and Stats are two differing things...all you've done is offer a STAT to try and prove something that they can't do so as FACT. The only only thing you've got right is the number of home wins...but it's no FACT that with or without the HF this would be better or worse. So don't try and use it to falsely justify your bitterness....we all know you're unhappy with the situation as a number of us are. right lets get it right the facts are facts to many so called palace FAMILY are happy to piss off other palace fans to eject other fans to get HF the move they wanted by who stop supporting the team, thats so shameful Edited by michaelpearce (27 Sep 2018 4.32pm)
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grays 27 Sep 18 4.25pm

Originally posted by Lyons550

Facts and Stats are two differing things...all you've done is offer a STAT to try and prove something that they can't do so as FACT.

right lets get it right the facts are facts to many so called palace FAMILY are happy to piss off other palace fans to eject other fans to get HF the move they wanted by who stop supporting the team, thats so shameful

Edited by michaelpearce (27 Sep 2018 4.32pm)

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eagleman13 On The Road To Hell & Alicante 27 Sep 18 4.40pm
Originally posted by PZ Eagle I keep reading in this whole thread that without the HF we could easily be relegated. Some prat even went so far as to say we would have easily beaten Newcastle with the HF there and someone else said Europe here we come when he heard the HF are back which is nonsense. I don't care about the HF one way or the other because by throwing a strop they have caused the lack of atmosphere everyone is moaning about and caused over 150 pages on this thread pitting fan against fan in what was always a family like club where all fans shared a love of the club and never fought each other. People may be correct in saying nobody owns their seats but people who have them and renew year after year are LOYAL fans who always put their money down without knowing whether they will be seeing a good side playing well or not. I would be willing to bet that the club have only ever not renewed season tickets where re-organisation is needed like moving the away section and possibly safe standing if it ever happens. I don't ever recall them doing so because a group of 100 or so fans throw a strop and virtually blackmail the club to kick people out of their seats so they can move. And I might add that "Atmosphere" never wins matches as 7 wins out of 19 proved last year when we had the best atmosphere in the league. Edited by PZ Eagle (27 Sep 2018 4.01pm) I like this post This operation, will make the 'Charge Of The Light Brigade' seem like a simple military exercise.
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On The Road To Hell & Alicante 27 Sep 18 4.40pm

Originally posted by PZ Eagle

Edited by PZ Eagle (27 Sep 2018 4.01pm)

I like this post

This operation, will make the 'Charge Of The Light Brigade' seem like a simple military exercise.

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Terry Ven 27 Sep 18 4.53pm
so what happens when the people who are moved out of there seats find out that the petishon was full of moody names?? They aint gonna be happy are they?
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27 Sep 18 4.53pm

so what happens when the people who are moved out of there seats find out that the petishon was full of moody names?? They aint gonna be happy are they?

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becky over the moon 27 Sep 18 5.03pm
Originally posted by Lyons550 Blimey, this stance is as bad as the HF's...people dont OWN their seats for any longer then they've PAID for them...so if there are no long term season ticket holders, then they wont be ejected. In fact do long term season tickets actually exist anymore? Bottom line is the club CAN DO WHAT THEY LIKE ; so all of us need to suck it up and get on with it! Yup, they do. I have a bunch of cousins who first came to Palace inside a bump, as babes in arms, toddlers and then in their own right as children. When the Holmesdale stand was built, my generation bought our tickets, their generation had tickets and they were bringing their children (and in-laws in one case). I'm last one standing of my generation and moved away 10 years ago. They are still there, with their (now adult)children and their grandchildren. Long-term enough? A stairway to Heaven and a Highway to Hell give some indication of expected traffic numbers
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over the moon 27 Sep 18 5.03pm

Originally posted by Lyons550

Blimey, this stance is as bad as the HF's...people dont OWN their seats for any longer then they've PAID for them...so if there are no long term season ticket holders, then they wont be ejected.

In fact do long term season tickets actually exist anymore?

Bottom line is the club CAN DO WHAT THEY LIKE ; so all of us need to suck it up and get on with it!

Yup, they do. I have a bunch of cousins who first came to Palace inside a bump, as babes in arms, toddlers and then in their own right as children. When the Holmesdale stand was built, my generation bought our tickets, their generation had tickets and they were bringing their children (and in-laws in one case).

I'm last one standing of my generation and moved away 10 years ago. They are still there, with their (now adult)children and their grandchildren.

Long-term enough?

A stairway to Heaven and a Highway to Hell give some indication of expected traffic numbers

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michaelpearce grays 27 Sep 18 5.04pm
Originally posted by Terry Ven so what happens when the people who are moved out of there seats find out that the petishon was full of moody names?? They aint gonna be happy are they? as i said its a major can of worms thats been opened to many are blind
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grays 27 Sep 18 5.04pm

Originally posted by Terry Ven

so what happens when the people who are moved out of there seats find out that the petishon was full of moody names?? They aint gonna be happy are they?

as i said its a major can of worms thats been opened to many are blind

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michaelpearce grays 27 Sep 18 5.25pm
Originally posted by Lyons550 Blimey, this stance is as bad as the HF's...people dont OWN their seats for any longer then they've PAID for them...so if there are no long term season ticket holders, then they wont be ejected. In fact do long term season tickets actually exist anymore? Bottom line is the club CAN DO WHAT THEY LIKE ; so all of us need to suck it up and get on with it! sorry your wrong, yes the club can do what they want, but i didnt stop cheering my team on because i couldn't get the move i wanted.that is a fact and now thats twice they have done that,sorry if you are a palace fan you dont do that ONE CLUB ONE TEAM
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grays 27 Sep 18 5.25pm

Originally posted by Lyons550

Blimey, this stance is as bad as the HF's...people dont OWN their seats for any longer then they've PAID for them...so if there are no long term season ticket holders, then they wont be ejected.

In fact do long term season tickets actually exist anymore?

Bottom line is the club CAN DO WHAT THEY LIKE ; so all of us need to suck it up and get on with it!

sorry your wrong, yes the club can do what they want, but i didnt stop cheering my team on because i couldn't get the move i wanted.that is a fact and now thats twice they have done that,sorry if you are a palace fan you dont do that

ONE CLUB ONE TEAM

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