Harmsworth and the Mail are joined at the hip. The comment was in response to ideas about why the Mail adopted their positions on topics. So relevant. You having a distant relative isn’t.

Maybe you don’t think someone taking a mistress at that time wasn’t provocative or irresponsible but I bet a few did back then. It was a joke that seems to have touched a raw nerve or two.

For the avoidance of doubt any comments in response to a previous post are directed to its ideas and not at any, or all, posters personally.

Me too and I can't imagine being holed up for months in some of the dumps I had to live in but that's not the issue. Are those who had to put up with those conditions going to be asked for their input? Complaining is all they've got.

I'm hoping that's sarcasm because that's exactly what isn't happening.

Let's not forget of course that amongst the largest groups, percentage wise, refusing vaccines were Phds.

But hey.

Edited by Stirlingsays (31 Aug 2023 3.50pm)

'Who are you and how did you get in here? I'm a locksmith. And, I'm a locksmith.' (Leslie Nielsen)

Just like the flu. Weird that. Almost like viruses are constantly changing and evolving

If the call was to make sure all 'people' got vaccinated again, regardless of age, I'd share your cynicism. But it's not. It's the same as the flu vaccine push year on year on year. Most vulnerable individuals and those over a certain age.

As we all know, you don't have to get a booster to have immunity, you can get that from a previous infection. However your immunity level will be significantly weaker than someone who has been vaccinated after infection, or someone who has regular vaccines. Mainly due to germinal centres within your lymph nodes and how long they last and how they work, but that's something for you to look up and understand better.

For the average healthy and (relatively) young individual arguably annual boosters are not essential. Helpful maybe to yourself and others, but not essential. Much like the flu vaccine – the takeup rate under ~35 in the UK is fairly poor. Once you start getting into more vulnerable age bands, unsurprisingly take up increases.

Quite rightly it's up to you to decide what to do once you start getting into those age bands and high risk profiles, but based on current studies and data, the risk of serious infection and complications increases massively if you're in that group and you decide to regularly pass on flu or covid boosters.

Natural selection etc

Did you know? 98.0000001% of people are morons.

Obviously If natural selection were a factor in modern times there would be an increase in fitness, not the decline that we see.....Medical science is wonderful but some of the lesser told truths about unhealthy people reproducing don't go away just because people don't like to say.

Reality is that natural selection has been in decline for well over a hundred years.

You want the phd link?

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Edited by Stirlingsays (31 Aug 2023 4.20pm)

'Who are you and how did you get in here? I'm a locksmith. And, I'm a locksmith.' (Leslie Nielsen)

Like I said in an earlier post hopefully people will make an informed decision to get or not to get the booster without fear mongering propaganda from either side.

And we shall see what the uptake is like. By all means get it if you want I won't try to persuade you otherwise.