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Wisbech Eagle Truro Cornwall 13 Nov 20 4.52pm
Originally posted by Belmont How much do you actually no about market open times (the most significant being London and New York) and the configuration of technology that supports those times which are relied on by thousands of companies world wide, I know enough. I worked in the city in my early career, my daughter used to work for Bloomberg and my brother-law is a stockbroker in Guernsey. I don't trade myself but I know that you can buy and sell pretty much anytime you want to these days. For the avoidance of doubt any comments in response to a previous post are directed to its ideas and not at any, or all, posters personally.
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Truro Cornwall 13 Nov 20 4.52pm

Originally posted by Belmont

How much do you actually no about market open times (the most significant being London and New York) and the configuration of technology that supports those times which are relied on by thousands of companies world wide,

I know enough. I worked in the city in my early career, my daughter used to work for Bloomberg and my brother-law is a stockbroker in Guernsey. I don't trade myself but I know that you can buy and sell pretty much anytime you want to these days.

For the avoidance of doubt any comments in response to a previous post are directed to its ideas and not at any, or all, posters personally.

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Belmont 13 Nov 20 5.04pm
Originally posted by Wisbech Eagle I know enough. I worked in the city in my early career, my daughter used to work for Bloomberg and my brother-law is a stockbroker in Guernsey. I don't trade myself but I know that you can buy and sell pretty much anytime you want to these days. That's fair enough but I know people who have worked on Brexit projects for major institutions that are centered in London and they have concluded that they are not moving. We could go into the ins and outs of why that might be but it sounds like you may already know if you have connections to the city.
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13 Nov 20 5.04pm

Originally posted by Wisbech Eagle

That's fair enough but I know people who have worked on Brexit projects for major institutions that are centered in London and they have concluded that they are not moving.

We could go into the ins and outs of why that might be but it sounds like you may already know if you have connections to the city.

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Stirlingsays 13 Nov 20 5.23pm
Originally posted by Mapletree Ah, I see now where you are confused For some reason you think 'international' means 'global'. International law, also known as public international law and law of nations, is the set of rules, norms, and standards generally accepted in relations between nations. It establishes normative guidelines and a common conceptual framework to guide states across a broad range of domains, including war, diplomacy, trade, and human rights. International law aims at the practice of stable, consistent, and organized international relations. The sources of international law include international custom (general state practice accepted as law), treaties, and general principles of law recognized by most national legal systems. International law differs from state-based legal systems in that it is primarily—though not exclusively—applicable to countries, rather than to individuals, and operates largely through consent, since there is no universally accepted authority to enforce it upon sovereign states. Consequently, states may choose to not abide by international law, and even to break a treaty. However, such violations, particularly of customary international law and peremptory norms (jus cogens), can be met with coercive action, ranging from military intervention to diplomatic and economic pressure. This is Wikipedia which I now see says pretty much the same as I did earlier. International Humanitarian Law (as laid out in the Geneva Conventions) is, I believe, a law that applies universally. Everyone fighting a war needs to respect IHL, that means governmental forces and non-State armed groups. A State responsible for IHL violations must make full reparation for the loss or injury it has caused. Serious violations of IHL are war crimes. Individuals responsible for these crimes can be investigated and prosecuted. States can enforce the rules through their national legal systems, diplomatic channels or international dispute resolution mechanisms. War crimes can be investigated and prosecuted by any State or, in certain circumstances, by an international court. The United Nations can also take measures to enforce IHL. For example, the Security Council can compel States to comply with their obligations or establish a tribunal to investigate breaches. Edited by Mapletree (13 Nov 2020 4.21pm) Jesus......it's not as though I haven't answered this point several times. 'Who are you and how did you get in here? I'm a locksmith. And, I'm a locksmith.' (Leslie Nielsen)
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13 Nov 20 5.23pm

Originally posted by Mapletree

Ah, I see now where you are confused

For some reason you think 'international' means 'global'.

International law, also known as public international law and law of nations, is the set of rules, norms, and standards generally accepted in relations between nations. It establishes normative guidelines and a common conceptual framework to guide states across a broad range of domains, including war, diplomacy, trade, and human rights. International law aims at the practice of stable, consistent, and organized international relations.

The sources of international law include international custom (general state practice accepted as law), treaties, and general principles of law recognized by most national legal systems.

International law differs from state-based legal systems in that it is primarily—though not exclusively—applicable to countries, rather than to individuals, and operates largely through consent, since there is no universally accepted authority to enforce it upon sovereign states. Consequently, states may choose to not abide by international law, and even to break a treaty. However, such violations, particularly of customary international law and peremptory norms (jus cogens), can be met with coercive action, ranging from military intervention to diplomatic and economic pressure.

This is Wikipedia which I now see says pretty much the same as I did earlier.

International Humanitarian Law (as laid out in the Geneva Conventions) is, I believe, a law that applies universally.

Everyone fighting a war needs to respect IHL, that means governmental forces and non-State armed groups.

A State responsible for IHL violations must make full reparation for the loss or injury it has caused. Serious violations of IHL are war crimes. Individuals responsible for these crimes can be investigated and prosecuted.

States can enforce the rules through their national legal systems, diplomatic channels or international dispute resolution mechanisms. War crimes can be investigated and prosecuted by any State or, in certain circumstances, by an international court. The United Nations can also take measures to enforce IHL. For example, the Security Council can compel States to comply with their obligations or establish a tribunal to investigate breaches.

Edited by Mapletree (13 Nov 2020 4.21pm)

Jesus......it's not as though I haven't answered this point several times.

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Stirlingsays 13 Nov 20 5.25pm
Originally posted by Maine Eagle Hrolf and Stirly, sitting in a tree.... K-I-S-S-I-N-G 2 peas in a pod. At least their tag team setup has been restored on this thread! Na, we leave the gay stuff to you lot....you've certainly been spreading it as far and wide as you possibly can. Though I tip my hat to the few gay social conservatives. Edited by Stirlingsays (13 Nov 2020 5.27pm) 'Who are you and how did you get in here? I'm a locksmith. And, I'm a locksmith.' (Leslie Nielsen)
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13 Nov 20 5.25pm

Originally posted by Maine Eagle

Hrolf and Stirly, sitting in a tree....
K-I-S-S-I-N-G

2 peas in a pod.

At least their tag team setup has been restored on this thread!

Na, we leave the gay stuff to you lot....you've certainly been spreading it as far and wide as you possibly can.

Though I tip my hat to the few gay social conservatives.

Edited by Stirlingsays (13 Nov 2020 5.27pm)

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steeleye20 Croydon 13 Nov 20 5.32pm
Originally posted by Maine Eagle Hrolf and Stirly, sitting in a tree.... K-I-S-S-I-N-G 2 peas in a pod. At least their tag team setup has been restored on this thread! Tweedledum and Tweedledee. A pair of people or things that are virtually indistinguishable. Same old thing, day in - day out, like two old washer-women.
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Croydon 13 Nov 20 5.32pm

Originally posted by Maine Eagle

Hrolf and Stirly, sitting in a tree....
K-I-S-S-I-N-G

2 peas in a pod.

At least their tag team setup has been restored on this thread!

Tweedledum and Tweedledee.

A pair of people or things that are virtually indistinguishable.

Same old thing, day in - day out, like two old washer-women.

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Stirlingsays 13 Nov 20 5.35pm
Originally posted by Wisbech Eagle I see your time away, and the opportunity to experience a greater breadth of opinions than can be found in this echo chamber hasn't been of much use to you. Same old, same old. Why am I not surprised? This court does NOT deal with "war crimes"! You are confusing it with the "International Criminal Court". It's purpose is to sort out disputes between countries who have signed up to it, as we, and all other members of the UN have. The very fact it exists is sufficient in most cases for it not to be used and agreements reached between nations but should it be necessary to rule on a breach of an international convention no physical power is required at all. Countries have given their prior consent for disputes to be settled in this way. Once the court rules it's judgement is binding and there is no appeal. Yes I was. It's another talking shop that has no powers to enforce its waffle beyond the consent of the participating countries.....and like I said, all the important ones aren't even signed up. It's kind of like your posts really....largely pointless. The real world operates upon 'right is might'....which is precisely why the US, China and Russia are not signed up...but waffle merchants like yourself pretend otherwise with disingenuous language. Edited by Stirlingsays (13 Nov 2020 5.36pm) 'Who are you and how did you get in here? I'm a locksmith. And, I'm a locksmith.' (Leslie Nielsen)
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13 Nov 20 5.35pm

Originally posted by Wisbech Eagle

I see your time away, and the opportunity to experience a greater breadth of opinions than can be found in this echo chamber hasn't been of much use to you. Same old, same old. Why am I not surprised?

This court does NOT deal with "war crimes"! You are confusing it with the "International Criminal Court". It's purpose is to sort out disputes between countries who have signed up to it, as we, and all other members of the UN have. The very fact it exists is sufficient in most cases for it not to be used and agreements reached between nations but should it be necessary to rule on a breach of an international convention no physical power is required at all. Countries have given their prior consent for disputes to be settled in this way. Once the court rules it's judgement is binding and there is no appeal.

Yes I was.

It's another talking shop that has no powers to enforce its waffle beyond the consent of the participating countries.....and like I said, all the important ones aren't even signed up.

It's kind of like your posts really....largely pointless.

The real world operates upon 'right is might'....which is precisely why the US, China and Russia are not signed up...but waffle merchants like yourself pretend otherwise with disingenuous language.

Edited by Stirlingsays (13 Nov 2020 5.36pm)

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Stirlingsays 13 Nov 20 5.42pm
Originally posted by steeleye20 Tweedledum and Tweedledee. A pair of people or things that are virtually indistinguishable. Same old thing, day in - day out, like two old washer-women. Self awareness alert. 'Who are you and how did you get in here? I'm a locksmith. And, I'm a locksmith.' (Leslie Nielsen)
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13 Nov 20 5.42pm

Originally posted by steeleye20

Tweedledum and Tweedledee.

A pair of people or things that are virtually indistinguishable.

Same old thing, day in - day out, like two old washer-women.

Self awareness alert.

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Wisbech Eagle Truro Cornwall 13 Nov 20 6.14pm
Originally posted by Stirlingsays Yes I was. It's another talking shop that has no powers to enforce its waffle beyond the consent of the participating countries.....and like I said, all the important ones aren't even signed up. It's kind of like your posts really....largely pointless. The real world operates upon 'right is might'....which is precisely why the US, China and Russia are not signed up...but waffle merchants like yourself pretend otherwise with disingenuous language. Edited by Stirlingsays (13 Nov 2020 5.36pm) From their website it appears that all members of the UN are signed up. Including the US, China and Russia. So only the Vatican City isn't. So it has quite a sharp point. Right is might militarily. With trade it isn't. The buyer holds the purse and normally calls the tune. For the avoidance of doubt any comments in response to a previous post are directed to its ideas and not at any, or all, posters personally.
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Truro Cornwall 13 Nov 20 6.14pm

Originally posted by Stirlingsays

Yes I was.

It's another talking shop that has no powers to enforce its waffle beyond the consent of the participating countries.....and like I said, all the important ones aren't even signed up.

It's kind of like your posts really....largely pointless.

The real world operates upon 'right is might'....which is precisely why the US, China and Russia are not signed up...but waffle merchants like yourself pretend otherwise with disingenuous language.

Edited by Stirlingsays (13 Nov 2020 5.36pm)

From their website it appears that all members of the UN are signed up. Including the US, China and Russia. So only the Vatican City isn't.

So it has quite a sharp point.

Right is might militarily. With trade it isn't. The buyer holds the purse and normally calls the tune.

For the avoidance of doubt any comments in response to a previous post are directed to its ideas and not at any, or all, posters personally.

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steeleye20 Croydon 13 Nov 20 6.15pm
'He flits from site to site, just like a butterfly' Oh yes he does, oh yes he does.
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Croydon 13 Nov 20 6.15pm

'He flits from site to site, just like a butterfly'

Oh yes he does, oh yes he does.

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Stirlingsays 13 Nov 20 6.37pm
Originally posted by Wisbech Eagle From their website it appears that all members of the UN are signed up. Including the US, China and Russia. So only the Vatican City isn't. So it has quite a sharp point. Right is might militarily. With trade it isn't. The buyer holds the purse and normally calls the tune. I'm talking about the ICC. [Link] And indirect confirmation from the BBC that the US isn't signed up. [Link] I can't be bothered to research the others because it just makes sense that they aren't signed up.....perhaps different states operate with it within a lower capacity.....or perhaps not. As for trade.....trade agreements different dependent upon the agreement.....the phrase 'international law' is a very poor one to describe many different agreements, with their own differences, which involve many different countries. Edited by Stirlingsays (13 Nov 2020 6.40pm) 'Who are you and how did you get in here? I'm a locksmith. And, I'm a locksmith.' (Leslie Nielsen)
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13 Nov 20 6.37pm

Originally posted by Wisbech Eagle

From their website it appears that all members of the UN are signed up. Including the US, China and Russia. So only the Vatican City isn't.

So it has quite a sharp point.

Right is might militarily. With trade it isn't. The buyer holds the purse and normally calls the tune.

I'm talking about the ICC.

[Link]

And indirect confirmation from the BBC that the US isn't signed up.

[Link]

I can't be bothered to research the others because it just makes sense that they aren't signed up.....perhaps different states operate with it within a lower capacity.....or perhaps not.

As for trade.....trade agreements different dependent upon the agreement.....the phrase 'international law' is a very poor one to describe many different agreements, with their own differences, which involve many different countries.

Edited by Stirlingsays (13 Nov 2020 6.40pm)

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Mapletree Croydon 13 Nov 20 6.41pm
Originally posted by Stirlingsays Jesus......it's not as though I haven't answered this point several times. Yes, it’s not. You remind me of Zaphod Beeblebrox. You survive the Total Perspective Vortex precisely because your reality is built entirely for you. And, indeed, in this case built entirely by you other than the egging on you rely upon from Hrolf. Edited by Mapletree (13 Nov 2020 9.01pm)
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Croydon 13 Nov 20 6.41pm

Originally posted by Stirlingsays

Jesus......it's not as though I haven't answered this point several times.

Yes, it’s not.

You remind me of Zaphod Beeblebrox. You survive the Total Perspective Vortex precisely because your reality is built entirely for you. And, indeed, in this case built entirely by you other than the egging on you rely upon from Hrolf.

Edited by Mapletree (13 Nov 2020 9.01pm)

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Stirlingsays 13 Nov 20 6.41pm
Originally posted by steeleye20 'He flits from site to site, just like a butterfly' Oh yes he does, oh yes he does. You mean Comrades....which I believe you signed up to the other week. 'Who are you and how did you get in here? I'm a locksmith. And, I'm a locksmith.' (Leslie Nielsen)
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13 Nov 20 6.41pm

Originally posted by steeleye20

'He flits from site to site, just like a butterfly'

Oh yes he does, oh yes he does.

You mean Comrades....which I believe you signed up to the other week.

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