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Jimenez SELHURSTPARKCHESTER,DA BRONX 12 May 19 2.05pm | |
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Originally posted by Wisbech Eagle
I have just written to the electoral commission about his "election communication". I posted it on FB too and have received 134 "likes" in 12 hours. For your interest this is the text:- "I have received the "Brexit Party's" election communication for the upcoming EU elections, which I understand has been delivered to all registered electors. I presume they are entitled to receive my details and mail this to me, but if not I want to complain because I don't want their "information" in my home. The reason I am contacting you is that I believe that the "message" from their leader, Mr Farage, is full of inaccuracies which distort and mislead to the point where they could be illegal under electoral law. I would like you to investigate these and either require that they publish a correction or, because of the serious nature of their transgressions, be required to withdraw their candidates. Specifically the message contains this statement "In June 2016, 17.m voted to leave the EU-the biggest democratic mandate in British history". This is a lie. British democracy does not recognise referendums within it's system and no mandate can ever be given to Parliament as a consequence of one. That the ruling Party undertook to respect the result does not change that and convert the referendum result into a mandate. The message goes on to say "almost three years later, the government and MPs have betrayed Brexit". This is also a lie. Parliament has been working hard to try to find a way to deliver a Brexit model which is acceptable to a majority of members. That they are divided in their approaches doesn't mean they have betrayed anyone. Further on it says "We must fight back against our failing MPs who have defied 17.4 million of us." This is a direct and almost certainly illegal challenge to the rule of law and the supremacy of Parliament. MPs are not delegates sent to Parliament to represent sectional interests. They represent all their constituents, the 17.4 million who voted to leave and the 16.1 million who voted to remain. Please investigate as quickly as you can. We suffered from the distorting lies of the Leave campaign in 2016 and this could be a repeat unless action is taken immediately." If you agree with this then perhaps you might consider taking similar action." Kin Ell. Go for a walk in the countryside or something
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Wisbech Eagle Truro Cornwall 12 May 19 2.07pm | |
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Originally posted by Cucking Funt
How have "prevailing circumstances" (whatever that means) materially changed between then and now? What about Parliament's responsibility to honour the manifesto pledges of both the main parties to deliver on the referendum result? MPs are not delegates. It's their responsibility to do what they consider is in their constituents and the country's best interests at the time they are taking the decision. If circumstances change then it's their duty to react to that. Circumstances have changed. We have a hung Parliament and a negotiated deal that cannot command a majority. A "no-deal" Brexit doesn't command a majority either. Some may feel that always voting in line with the referendum result is that duty, whilst others don't. It's a mess but to claim that the MPs aren't delivering what was promised is far too simplistic. It's what you want but it isn't what the MPs believe is in your interests and it's them who hold the responsibility.
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Hrolf The Ganger 12 May 19 2.23pm | |
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Originally posted by Wisbech Eagle
I have just written to the electoral commission about his "election communication". I posted it on FB too and have received 134 "likes" in 12 hours. For your interest this is the text:- "I have received the "Brexit Party's" election communication for the upcoming EU elections, which I understand has been delivered to all registered electors. I presume they are entitled to receive my details and mail this to me, but if not I want to complain because I don't want their "information" in my home. The reason I am contacting you is that I believe that the "message" from their leader, Mr Farage, is full of inaccuracies which distort and mislead to the point where they could be illegal under electoral law. I would like you to investigate these and either require that they publish a correction or, because of the serious nature of their transgressions, be required to withdraw their candidates. Specifically the message contains this statement "In June 2016, 17.m voted to leave the EU-the biggest democratic mandate in British history". This is a lie. British democracy does not recognise referendums within it's system and no mandate can ever be given to Parliament as a consequence of one. That the ruling Party undertook to respect the result does not change that and convert the referendum result into a mandate. The message goes on to say "almost three years later, the government and MPs have betrayed Brexit". This is also a lie. Parliament has been working hard to try to find a way to deliver a Brexit model which is acceptable to a majority of members. That they are divided in their approaches doesn't mean they have betrayed anyone. Further on it says "We must fight back against our failing MPs who have defied 17.4 million of us." This is a direct and almost certainly illegal challenge to the rule of law and the supremacy of Parliament. MPs are not delegates sent to Parliament to represent sectional interests. They represent all their constituents, the 17.4 million who voted to leave and the 16.1 million who voted to remain. Please investigate as quickly as you can. We suffered from the distorting lies of the Leave campaign in 2016 and this could be a repeat unless action is taken immediately." If you agree with this then perhaps you might consider taking similar action." Aren't you the little activist. Another nutcase who just can't accept a democratic decision.
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Hrolf The Ganger 12 May 19 2.26pm | |
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Originally posted by Wisbech Eagle
It's strange that whenever I go onto genuinely left leaning sites (which I do sometimes both for amusement and balance) they go apoplectic over the BBC, and it's rightish bias. That tells me that the BBC pretty much get things right. Bias, like beauty, is in the eye of the beholder.
I'm sure that the BBC is not Left enough for some Labourites but then, some of them are Left of Trotsky.
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Wisbech Eagle Truro Cornwall 12 May 19 2.55pm | |
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Originally posted by Hrolf The Ganger
Aren't you the little activist. Another nutcase who just can't accept a democratic decision. It wasn't a democratic decision despite all the fake claims to the contrary. To repeat, for the umpteenth time, referendums have no status in our democracy. Democracy is vested solely in our Parliament.
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pefwin Where you have to have an English ... 12 May 19 4.11pm | |
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Originally posted by Pussay Patrol
So Farage was uncomfortable with his past,I think such questions are relevant especially the breaking point poster, a major stain on his political integrity, as it's important to know about the person you're voting for, most of his disciples can't see the wolf in sheep's clothing indeed someone believes Jewish bankers started WW2. Fell apart like a cheap suit.
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Hrolf The Ganger 12 May 19 5.29pm | |
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Originally posted by Wisbech Eagle
It wasn't a democratic decision despite all the fake claims to the contrary. To repeat, for the umpteenth time, referendums have no status in our democracy. Democracy is vested solely in our Parliament.
You don't have a referendum unless you are going to respect the result and that is exactly what was promised. I don't care about your mealy mouthed technicalities. It is pathetic. Go Nigel go.
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Invalid user 2019 12 May 19 5.36pm | |
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Some very interesting polling coming out of late
LAB: 27% (-6) Edited by dollardays (12 May 2019 5.37pm)
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Stirlingsays 12 May 19 6.27pm | |
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Originally posted by dollardays
Some very interesting polling coming out of late
LAB: 27% (-6) Edited by dollardays (12 May 2019 5.37pm) That is interesting. 48 percent for leave parties and 44 for Remain.....if we include Labour as remain. The only way I can see the Tories improving their vote potential is if May resigns or gives a realistic date of departure. In terms of a Westminster vote, unless May was still there I see the Brexit party vote as very soft and of the moment.
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DANGERCLOSE London 12 May 19 6.42pm | |
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Pussay Patrol 12 May 19 7.22pm | |
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Originally posted by DANGERCLOSE
Piers Morgan talks about authenticity, hmmm Edited by Pussay Patrol (12 May 2019 7.23pm)
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.TUX. 12 May 19 7.49pm | |
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Originally posted by Wisbech Eagle
MPs are not delegates. It's their responsibility to do what they consider is in their constituents and the country's best interests at the time they are taking the decision. If circumstances change then it's their duty to react to that. Circumstances have changed. We have a hung Parliament and a negotiated deal that cannot command a majority. A "no-deal" Brexit doesn't command a majority either. Some may feel that always voting in line with the referendum result is that duty, whilst others don't. It's a mess but to claim that the MPs aren't delivering what was promised is far too simplistic. It's what you want but it isn't what the MPs believe is in your interests and it's them who hold the responsibility. You get worse.
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