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cryrst Flag The garden of England 01 Sep 22 7.43pm Send a Private Message to cryrst Add cryrst as a friend

Originally posted by Glazier#1

The first thing she'll do is help out by giving tax cuts, she says, not 'handouts'.

Tax cuts = cuts in public spending, more cuts in public spending so good luck the care sector, good luck the NHS, good luck the local governments that will bear the bear the brunt.

I'm wondering tax cuts where? The earnings tax rate? How would that help those who are out of work, pensioners?

If the state pension is protected by the 'triple lock', presumably it will increase by the rate of inflation - what- 10%? Not much help if your energy bills have increased by 300%.

I am intrigued to see how this will play out.

One thing is sure: the Tories will want to improve their image as being more 'cuddly' before the next election. How will they try to appear more caring? Note the phrase 'appear more caring'

Why should the private sector not benefit. Tax cuts will also help state workers. Unemployed will probably get an uplift along with pensioners. As for the nhs it needs to become more efficient and less top heavy, then the 200 billion might do what it’s supposed to do !

 

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croydon proud Flag Any european country i fancy! 01 Sep 22 7.46pm

bump

 

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croydon proud Flag Any european country i fancy! 01 Sep 22 7.51pm

Bump me up Becky -i"m stuck on page 177- July 7- let free speeach and the voice of reason return!

 

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croydon proud Flag Any european country i fancy! 01 Sep 22 7.58pm

testing testing

 

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Glazier#1 Flag 01 Sep 22 9.25pm Send a Private Message to Glazier#1 Add Glazier#1 as a friend

Originally posted by cryrst

Why should the private sector not benefit. Tax cuts will also help state workers. Unemployed will probably get an uplift along with pensioners. As for the nhs it needs to become more efficient and less top heavy, then the 200 billion might do what it’s supposed to do !

As I wrote, it'll be interesting to see how this is played out.

If there are, indeed, tax cuts I will be curious to know where the money for that will come from.

 

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Stirlingsays Flag 01 Sep 22 10.03pm Send a Private Message to Stirlingsays Holmesdale Online Elite Member Add Stirlingsays as a friend

Originally posted by croydon proud

testing testing

Probably an issue with your browser.

 


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Glazier#1 Flag 02 Sep 22 8.31am Send a Private Message to Glazier#1 Add Glazier#1 as a friend

Originally posted by cryrst

Why should the private sector not benefit. Tax cuts will also help state workers. Unemployed will probably get an uplift along with pensioners. As for the nhs it needs to become more efficient and less top heavy, then the 200 billion might do what it’s supposed to do !

It may help inasmuch as take home pay will increase for them but may be paid for by cutting the number of workers in the state sector. Robbing Peter to pay Paul and continuing the drive to sacrifice more and more public services at the altar of the free market.

Local councils asked to do more and more on les and less money.
The weakest and poorest to pay the price.

 

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Spiderman Flag Horsham 02 Sep 22 8.36am Send a Private Message to Spiderman Add Spiderman as a friend

Originally posted by croydon proud

Bump me up Becky -i"m stuck on page 177- July 7- let free speeach and the voice of reason return!

She does that’s why you are stuck on July 7

 

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cryrst Flag The garden of England 02 Sep 22 8.37am Send a Private Message to cryrst Add cryrst as a friend

Originally posted by Glazier#1

It may help inasmuch as take home pay will increase for them but may be paid for by cutting the number of workers in the state sector. Robbing Peter to pay Paul and continuing the drive to sacrifice more and more public services at the altar of the free market.

Local councils asked to do more and more on les and less money.
The weakest and poorest to pay the price.

In certain councils it could be the case but a great many both employ people for the wrong reasons and spend money very unwisely.

 

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Glazier#1 Flag 02 Sep 22 9.15am Send a Private Message to Glazier#1 Add Glazier#1 as a friend

Originally posted by cryrst

In certain councils it could be the case but a great many both employ people for the wrong reasons and spend money very unwisely.

Sorry. I disagree.

Council services like care provision for the elderly, the vulnerable, mental health, the poorest are being cut to the bone.

There are those who are not so bothered by that and believe in a 'look to yourself and not the state' philosophy.

I'm not one of them; it's not the kind of world I want to live in.

I don't earn loads but I would be prepared and willing to pay more tax to look after those, even though they're not my family and I'll never meet them.

Edited by Glazier#1 (02 Sep 2022 9.16am)

 

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Badger11 Flag Beckenham 02 Sep 22 9.31am Send a Private Message to Badger11 Add Badger11 as a friend

Originally posted by cryrst

In certain councils it could be the case but a great many both employ people for the wrong reasons and spend money very unwisely.

You don't have to cut meals on wheels there are plenty of other areas for efficiency savings that the public would not care about.

Councils should be working together and setting up shared resource centres for their admin and customer service. Most of the admin work is "vanilla" the same for all councils so is ideal for this.

I did this about 25 years ago for multinational corporations across Europe far harder as you had language and legal differences to work out.

As for the shared services centre it doesn't even have to be in the UK.

I guess it all comes down to how you view public services, are they an employment opportunity for local people or do you want a cost effective solution for the taxpayer.

Most councils have prestigious town halls often in an expensive part of town. Why? how many members of the public actually need to see someone face to face? How many council office workers need to meet the public? The buildings are no longer justified.

Sell off the town hall and have a customer service desk in the local supermarket or library.

Like I say lots of savings to be made without hurting the public at the sharp end.

 


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croydon proud Flag Any european country i fancy! 02 Sep 22 4.09pm

Originally posted by Stirlingsays

Probably an issue with your browser.

Thanks- its possible!

 

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