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 steeleye20  Croydon 22 Jan 19 4.29pm |
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Trump has brought the longest shutdown of government in the USA. How does he do it as this would be vastly beneficial in the UK.
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| Stirlingsays 22 Jan 19 4.31pm |
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Originally posted by steve1984
Might is right. The Kurds aren't very mighty. They are with US air support....as IS found out.
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| Stirlingsays 22 Jan 19 4.34pm |
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Originally posted by Penge Eagle
More fake news this last few days. 1. 'Native American man mocked by schoolchildren in Trump 'MAGA' hats' A complete lie. The full video showed a bunch of kids were being abused by a black militant group before a Native American walked into the group banging his drum. A kid wearing a MAGA hat is vilified after he simply SMIRKED at him after someone with the Native American was saying, "go back to Europe where you came from. This is not your land". Yet the kid is the bad guy, for being white? The children have since been threatened and doxxed by doing nothing wrong. No correction on Sky News or the BBC. 2. 'Donald Trump ‘ordered lawyer Michael Cohen to LIE to Congress about his part in Moscow Trump Tower project – and planned Putin visit during 2016 campaign’ [Link] Again, more fake news from a Buzzfeed story. That reputable news outlet... US special counsel Robert Mueller has since said it is a total lie. Edited by Penge Eagle (22 Jan 2019 4.22pm)
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| dannyboy1978 28 Jan 19 6.59am |
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Why don't Americans want the wall? I had a brief look and couldn't find a reason. Is it just because it's trumps idea?
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| silvertop Portishead 28 Jan 19 9.55am |
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The fall of the Berlin Wall remains a beacon of hope and a day of celebration. Walls in this context are lasting symbols of hatred and division. And he wants to build an even bigger one... in a liberal democracy? They also cost $billions of public money where the public don't want to spend that money. Remember, 2 elections where more people voted against him than for him. Our democracy is skewered by FPTP; there's by that equally undemocratic college system thingy. That said, you may have a point. People hate Trump so much that if his administration somehow discovered a magic wand that would cure all disease and mental illness, the public would still vote against it.
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| Stirlingsays 28 Jan 19 10.31am |
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Originally posted by silvertop
The fall of the Berlin Wall remains a beacon of hope and a day of celebration. Walls in this context are lasting symbols of hatred and division. And he wants to build an even bigger one... in a liberal democracy? They also cost $billions of public money where the public don't want to spend that money. Remember, 2 elections where more people voted against him than for him. Our democracy is skewered by FPTP; there's by that equally undemocratic college system thingy. That said, you may have a point. People hate Trump so much that if his administration somehow discovered a magic wand that would cure all disease and mental illness, the public would still vote against it. The Berlin wall separated Germans from Germans. A wall is simply an effective method of border security and Mexico has a higher crime rate. Is the front door of your house a 'lasting symbol of hatred and division' and if not tell me how it's different. Edited by Stirlingsays (28 Jan 2019 10.34am)
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| ChrisGC Wantage 28 Jan 19 10.39am |
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Originally posted by Stirlingsays
The Berlin wall separated Germans from Germans. A wall is simply an effective method of border security and Mexico has a higher crime rate. Is the front door of your house a 'lasting symbol of hatred and division' and if not tell me how it's different. Edited by Stirlingsays (28 Jan 2019 10.34am) I'm stealing this. You beauty!
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| Penge Eagle Beckenham 28 Jan 19 5.20pm |
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Originally posted by silvertop
The fall of the Berlin Wall remains a beacon of hope and a day of celebration. Walls in this context are lasting symbols of hatred and division. And he wants to build an even bigger one... in a liberal democracy? Or just a nation protecting its sovereignty? Does the Vatican symbolise hate too? Quote
They also cost $billions of public money where the public don't want to spend that money. Remember, 2 elections where more people voted against him than for him. Our democracy is skewered by FPTP; there's by that equally undemocratic college system thingy. Trump wants just 5bn dollars for the wall which is peanuts in the overall budget. Especially when the cost of illegal immigration is 135bn dollars a year. [Link] Quote
That said, you may have a point. People hate Trump so much that if his administration somehow discovered a magic wand that would cure all disease and mental illness, the public would still vote against it. The Dems know that if Trump builds the wall, then it will increase his chances of re-election and massively decrease his chances if he doesn't. The Dems have always spoke of increased fencing at the border because it always has been an issue to the American people. Walls have proven to work - just look at the parts of the border where the wall is secure. But the Dems also oppose it mainly because illegal immigrants are Dem voters!
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| silvertop Portishead 28 Jan 19 6.11pm |
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Originally posted by Penge Eagle
The Dems know that if Trump builds the wall, then it will increase his chances of re-election and massively decrease his chances if he doesn't. The Dems have always spoke of increased fencing at the border because it always has been an issue to the American people. Walls have proven to work - just look at the parts of the border where the wall is secure. But the Dems also oppose it mainly because illegal immigrants are Dem voters! You were doing OK till the last sentence
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| .TUX. 28 Jan 19 6.29pm |
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Originally posted by dannyboy1978
Why don't Americans want the wall? I had a brief look and couldn't find a reason. Is it just because it's trumps idea? Yes.
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| Penge Eagle Beckenham 28 Jan 19 7.31pm |
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Originally posted by silvertop
You were doing OK till the last sentence Why do you think the Dems don't want voter ID introduced? Would you say newly arrived Hispanics vote Democrat or Republican? Hmmmmm! And how about the thousands of illegal votes registered across the US, especially the border states like Texas? Story today 'Potential Non-Citizens Have Cast 58,000 Votes in Texas' [Link] Edited by Penge Eagle (28 Jan 2019 7.32pm)
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| .TUX. 28 Jan 19 7.58pm |
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Haters seem to forget (or don't know?) that the 'Wall' was backed by many in the recent past inc Bush, Obama and Clinton.
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