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Sportyteacher London 29 Jun 16 11.45am | |
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Despite the fact that Hansard provenly informs the general public that UK under Major's Government arms industry dealings knowingly sold chemical weapons to Sadaam Hussein...as did USA; France; Germany etc. By the way, where was Prince Andrew at the time of Al-Megrahi's release from Scottish prison re: Lockerbie bombing? Andrew was photographed in the company of Colonel Gadaffi as Arms Industry Envoy to UK.
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Sportyteacher London 29 Jun 16 11.48am | |
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Back to Corbyn thread: Pat Glass, Shadow Education Secretary for all of two days, has just resigned citing Corbyn debacle as main reason. That must be a record: TWO days!
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Y Ddraig Goch In The Crowd 29 Jun 16 11.53am | |
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Originally posted by nickgusset
A friend posted this in an email. it may of course all be nonsense. It has a rung of Truth to it but equally there are many tails of threats to MPs if they disagreed with JC. More than one has claimed that they have been threatened with deselection unless they get in line. Rather ironic as JC made a career out of being a professional pain in the arse
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OknotOK Cockfosters, London 29 Jun 16 12.26pm | |
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Originally posted by Y Ddraig Goch
It has a rung of Truth to it but equally there are many tails of threats to MPs if they disagreed with JC. More than one has claimed that they have been threatened with deselection unless they get in line. Rather ironic as JC made a career out of being a professional pain in the arse I think it probably is true. Certainly it appeared staged. Sacking Hillary Benn when he had openly expressed that JC should resign seems like the only viable option to me. So for people to have mock anger at that just seems false. But it is definitely true that JC's team are a bit like the Politburo and going out and threatening and attempting to purge opposition to their pure ideology.
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Y Ddraig Goch In The Crowd 29 Jun 16 12.29pm | |
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Originally posted by OknotOK
I think it probably is true. Certainly it appeared staged. Sacking Hillary Benn when he had openly expressed that JC should resign seems like the only viable option to me. So for people to have mock anger at that just seems false. But it is definitely true that JC's team are a bit like the Politburo and going out and threatening and attempting to purge opposition to their pure ideology.
Just realised I managed to misspell tales in my previous post
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Hoof Hearted 29 Jun 16 12.34pm | |
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Originally posted by Sportyteacher
Despite the fact that Hansard provenly informs the general public that UK under Major's Government arms industry dealings knowingly sold chemical weapons to Sadaam Hussein...as did USA; France; Germany etc. By the way, where was Prince Andrew at the time of Al-Megrahi's release from Scottish prison re: Lockerbie bombing? Andrew was photographed in the company of Colonel Gadaffi as Arms Industry Envoy to UK. Major was another sh1t leader that refused to resign. Prince Andrew probably did the hit on Diana.
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Rudi Hedman Caterham 29 Jun 16 12.39pm | |
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Originally posted by Hoof Hearted
Major was another sh1t leader that refused to resign. Prince Andrew probably did the hit on Diana. All that waving around of wooden swords on stage always looked a bit sinister to me as well. It's always the odd and quiet ones.
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davidpercival Croydon 29 Jun 16 1.55pm | |
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Originally posted by Willo
Quote nickgusset at 27 Jul 2015 5.02pm
How will he make labour more unelectable? I have heard that even IF Corbyn wins the leadership battle he could be ousted by the MPs so he doesn't actually fight the 2020 election. I really don't know if this is a possibility or is being planned. I don't spend my valuable time on 'Labour' politics !
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OknotOK Cockfosters, London 29 Jun 16 2.45pm | |
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According to party rules, Corbyn (as the incumbent who is not resigning) will automatically be on the ballot. He doesn't even need to secure the 30+ MPs backing him. It's not inconceivable that his support amongst the membership - which was overwhelming 9 months ago - could have collapsed. But is is pretty unlikely. So I would say there is a very good chance he will be re-elected as leader. I see Labour MPs therefore having two options: 1. Splinter and set up their own centre-left party or 2. Accept Corbyn, and let him fight the next general election, assuming it is in the autumn. If they chose 2, then they have to just shut-the-fcuk-up because if they don't and continue the back-biting then he will have an argument for why he loses. If they do stay quiet and relatively supportive then the only two scenarios are a) he wins (which appears unlikely) or b) he loses and all but his closest allies start to drift away accepting that his hard-left policies aren't going to win. But keep mouthing off and stabbing him in the back and I think he could keep clinging on.
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jamiemartin721 Reading 29 Jun 16 2.53pm | |
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Originally posted by Sportyteacher
Back to Corbyn thread: Pat Glass, Shadow Education Secretary for all of two days, has just resigned citing Corbyn debacle as main reason. That must be a record: TWO days! Pat Glass is retiring soon anyhow. But I think a leadership contest is inevitable now, and he probably should step down, and take it to the same system of selection. if he can win it, he's pretty much in a position to eliminate the PLP influence for a generation. I can see a lot of the same support he achieved last time, coming to the fore what with the exit and tory position.
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jamiemartin721 Reading 29 Jun 16 2.55pm | |
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Originally posted by OknotOK
Big gamble, because its likely that the Unions could go either way, and Labour is very much dependent on Union support and funding. Plus that new party would have to compete with the Greens and Lib Dems... Its a long way from starting a new party to getting a MP.
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chris123 hove actually 29 Jun 16 2.55pm | |
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Originally posted by nickgusset
A friend posted this in an email. it may of course all be nonsense. I don't remember anybody predicting the loss of Oldham - reduced majority maybe after Michael Meacher died.
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