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Stirlingsays Flag 15 Feb 15 6.18pm Send a Private Message to Stirlingsays Holmesdale Online Elite Member Add Stirlingsays as a friend

Quote Kermit8 at 15 Feb 2015 6.05pm

Ah, come on. 100 UKIP supporters being assessed to see what it is they have in common upstairs? I'd find it bloody interesting tbh.

Did someone say stereotype?


 


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Quote Kermit8 at 15 Feb 2015 6.05pm

Ah, come on. 100 UKIP supporters being assessed to see what it is they have in common upstairs? I'd find it bloody interesting tbh.

Did someone say stereotype?



No, but they did say in common.

 


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Quote Kermit8 at 15 Feb 2015 6.05pm

Ah, come on. 100 UKIP supporters being assessed to see what it is they have in common upstairs? I'd find it bloody interesting tbh.

Did someone say stereotype?



No, but they did say in common.

I suppose it would be very interesting to ask 100 middle class liberals who have opted out of living in mixed race areas, but who continually pontificate about how others should live their lives, what they would really think if a family of Somali's moved in next door to their house or a long term unemployed family with 6 kids, 3 dogs (the pit ill variety not the Paris Hilton variety), 2 ASBO's and a spent conviction for GBH were housed on their road by the social.

I bet the results would very contradictory to those views espoused on message boards.

 


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Quote matt_himself at 15 Feb 2015 6.51pm

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Quote Kermit8 at 15 Feb 2015 6.05pm

Ah, come on. 100 UKIP supporters being assessed to see what it is they have in common upstairs? I'd find it bloody interesting tbh.

Did someone say stereotype?



No, but they did say in common.

I suppose it would be very interesting to ask 100 middle class liberals who have opted out of living in mixed race areas, but who continually pontificate about how others should live their lives, what they would really think if a family of Somali's moved in next door to their house or a long term unemployed family with 6 kids, 3 dogs (the pit ill variety not the Paris Hilton variety), 2 ASBO's and a spent conviction for GBH were housed on their road by the social.

I bet the results would very contradictory to those views espoused on message boards.


And what exactly is wrong with having a family of Somalis living next door? Enlighten me. What are they like?

 


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matt_himself Flag Matataland 15 Feb 15 7.49pm Send a Private Message to matt_himself Add matt_himself as a friend

Quote Kermit8 at 15 Feb 2015 7.07pm

Quote matt_himself at 15 Feb 2015 6.51pm

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Quote Kermit8 at 15 Feb 2015 6.05pm

Ah, come on. 100 UKIP supporters being assessed to see what it is they have in common upstairs? I'd find it bloody interesting tbh.

Did someone say stereotype?



No, but they did say in common.

I suppose it would be very interesting to ask 100 middle class liberals who have opted out of living in mixed race areas, but who continually pontificate about how others should live their lives, what they would really think if a family of Somali's moved in next door to their house or a long term unemployed family with 6 kids, 3 dogs (the pit ill variety not the Paris Hilton variety), 2 ASBO's and a spent conviction for GBH were housed on their road by the social.

I bet the results would very contradictory to those views espoused on message boards.


And what exactly is wrong with having a family of Somalis living next door? Enlighten me. What are they like?

Where did I say there was anything wrong with living next to a family Somali's?

 


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Quote matt_himself at 15 Feb 2015 7.49pm

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Quote matt_himself at 15 Feb 2015 6.51pm

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Quote Stirlingsays at 15 Feb 2015 6.18pm

Quote Kermit8 at 15 Feb 2015 6.05pm

Ah, come on. 100 UKIP supporters being assessed to see what it is they have in common upstairs? I'd find it bloody interesting tbh.

Did someone say stereotype?



No, but they did say in common.

I suppose it would be very interesting to ask 100 middle class liberals who have opted out of living in mixed race areas, but who continually pontificate about how others should live their lives, what they would really think if a family of Somali's moved in next door to their house or a long term unemployed family with 6 kids, 3 dogs (the pit ill variety not the Paris Hilton variety), 2 ASBO's and a spent conviction for GBH were housed on their road by the social.

I bet the results would very contradictory to those views espoused on message boards.


And what exactly is wrong with having a family of Somalis living next door? Enlighten me. What are they like?

Where did I say there was anything wrong with living next to a family Somali's?


You juxtaposed the Somali family with a dysfunctional, anti-social, unemployable family in order to make your point about your perception of middle-class liberals attitudes should they be faced with something which, in your opinion, they would not like.

Why do you think they would have a problem with a Somali family?

Unless you can come up with a credible reason why you used them in your little thought process then I think it is reasonable to say It's because you would have a problem living next door to a Somali family, isn't it?


Another UKIP supporter outed with their distasteful views, Matthew?

How disappointing it had to be you.


Edited by Kermit8 (15 Feb 2015 10.21pm)

 


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legaleagle Flag 15 Feb 15 10.42pm

Quote Stirlingsays at 15 Feb 2015 3.44pm

Like I said, I'm not angry, because your views aren't balanced I don't really care what you think.

I will however react against misrepresentation and unethical posts.

I quite like Legal as a poster as though he was wrong to imply racism, As far as I remember the argument was that he said that he hadn't implied that....I didn't agree but was happy to move on. He's a good poster who it's fun to debate with.

he was right about my cultural preferences.....But then again they aren't anything I've ever hidden...I written about them several times, even in this thread.

What seems to be the case to me is that if something doesn't fit your own prejudices you don't accept it.

Again, there isn't much point to you being on a debating forum.

As for foreigners not belonging here....Maybe you should take the hint from the actual meaning of the word.......As for foreigners being here....That's fine, we are all foreigners when we go on holiday or work abroad.....But it should be in reasonable numbers for several different reasons.

As for this egalitarian attitude to believing that foreigners should access everything a national accesses. Nope not for me.....And not for most people in the country.


Edited by Stirlingsays (15 Feb 2015 3.48pm)


Just one small point (for the third time,I think),Stirling. I didn't imply racism;you did,incorrectly.Ethnicity issues,yes I didn't imply them,I said it out straight.But,as I had hoped you would have realised by now (whether you agree with me or not or take umbrage by what I have posted or not),issues re ethnicity do not automatically equate to racism as you incorrectly assume and its a shame you continue to misrepresent what I posted when I have made the difference very clear and have made clear I did not suggest you are a racist (and why).

As to ethnicity issues,as you yourself say above,I was "right about my cultural preferences.....But then again they aren't anything I've ever hidden...I written about them several times, even in this thread." Precisely!Your cultural preferences,as you put it,relate to issues around ethnicity. So,by all means disagree with me about the actual issues,but I hope you have finally got the point now and won't seek again to deflect away from the actual debate by suggesting accusations of racism where there plainly aren't any.

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nickgusset Flag Shizzlehurst 15 Feb 15 11.55pm

Quote matt_himself at 15 Feb 2015 6.51pm

Quote Kermit8 at 15 Feb 2015 6.24pm

Quote Stirlingsays at 15 Feb 2015 6.18pm

Quote Kermit8 at 15 Feb 2015 6.05pm

Ah, come on. 100 UKIP supporters being assessed to see what it is they have in common upstairs? I'd find it bloody interesting tbh.

Did someone say stereotype?



No, but they did say in common.

I suppose it would be very interesting to ask 100 middle class liberals who have opted out of living in mixed race areas, but who continually pontificate about how others should live their lives, what they would really think if a family of Somali's moved in next door to their house or a long term unemployed family with 6 kids, 3 dogs (the pit ill variety not the Paris Hilton variety), 2 ASBO's and a spent conviction for GBH were housed on their road by the social.

I bet the results would very contradictory to those views espoused on message boards.


Haven't got Somalian neighbours, but the rest of my road is as you describe.
My next door neighbours are Bulgarian.
Is my middle class guilt assuaged now Matthew?

BTW. Still waiting for you response on education policies...

 

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Quote Kermit8 at 15 Feb 2015 10.16pm

Quote matt_himself at 15 Feb 2015 7.49pm

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Quote Kermit8 at 15 Feb 2015 6.05pm

Ah, come on. 100 UKIP supporters being assessed to see what it is they have in common upstairs? I'd find it bloody interesting tbh.

Did someone say stereotype?



No, but they did say in common.

I suppose it would be very interesting to ask 100 middle class liberals who have opted out of living in mixed race areas, but who continually pontificate about how others should live their lives, what they would really think if a family of Somali's moved in next door to their house or a long term unemployed family with 6 kids, 3 dogs (the pit ill variety not the Paris Hilton variety), 2 ASBO's and a spent conviction for GBH were housed on their road by the social.

I bet the results would very contradictory to those views espoused on message boards.


And what exactly is wrong with having a family of Somalis living next door? Enlighten me. What are they like?

Where did I say there was anything wrong with living next to a family Somali's?


You juxtaposed the Somali family with a dysfunctional, anti-social, unemployable family in order to make your point about your perception of middle-class liberals attitudes should they be faced with something which, in your opinion, they would not like.

Why do you think they would have a problem with a Somali family?

Unless you can come up with a credible reason why you used them in your little thought process then I think it is reasonable to say It's because you would have a problem living next door to a Somali family, isn't it?


Another UKIP supporter outed with their distasteful views, Matthew?

How disappointing it had to be you.


Edited by Kermit8 (15 Feb 2015 10.21pm)

What bollocks you talk Michael.

I was using two examples of families that could be unappealing to white, middle class liberals like yourself who pontificate on how others should live their their lives yet cosy themselves away in nice white ghettos.

It's also interesting that your deflection tactics involve sticking up for the foreign family I highlighted and not the white, working class family, in my example. Why would you take that approach?

I didn't say once that it was bad to live next door to either and you know that, you just using cheap point scoring to deflect from the debate.

Please remember Michael, that I am in a relationship with an African. I have a lot of interaction with Africans and I enjoy spending time with Africans. I have found them to be polite guests and welcoming hosts, plus they hold conservative values which I largely concur with. I would far rather live next door to Africans than a white, middle class liberal whining drop out like yourself.

PS. If you could find an African within a 300 mile radius of where you live and you discuss politics with them, quite a few extoll an admiration for UKIP and Conservative policies. Very few support Labour. Interesting, eh?

Edited by matt_himself (16 Feb 2015 6.11am)

 


"That was fun and to round off the day, I am off to steal a charity collection box and then desecrate a place of worship.” - Smokey, The Selhurst Arms, 26/02/02

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Quote nickgusset at 15 Feb 2015 11.55pm

Quote matt_himself at 15 Feb 2015 6.51pm

Quote Kermit8 at 15 Feb 2015 6.24pm

Quote Stirlingsays at 15 Feb 2015 6.18pm

Quote Kermit8 at 15 Feb 2015 6.05pm

Ah, come on. 100 UKIP supporters being assessed to see what it is they have in common upstairs? I'd find it bloody interesting tbh.

Did someone say stereotype?



No, but they did say in common.

I suppose it would be very interesting to ask 100 middle class liberals who have opted out of living in mixed race areas, but who continually pontificate about how others should live their lives, what they would really think if a family of Somali's moved in next door to their house or a long term unemployed family with 6 kids, 3 dogs (the pit ill variety not the Paris Hilton variety), 2 ASBO's and a spent conviction for GBH were housed on their road by the social.

I bet the results would very contradictory to those views espoused on message boards.


Haven't got Somalian neighbours, but the rest of my road is as you describe.
My next door neighbours are Bulgarian.
Is my middle class guilt assuaged now Matthew?

BTW. Still waiting for you response on education policies...


I have given up with you Gusset, unless you haven't guessed by now.

You have bored me to tedium too many times and there are far more interesting ways I can spend my time than 'debate' matters with you.

Jog on.

 


"That was fun and to round off the day, I am off to steal a charity collection box and then desecrate a place of worship.” - Smokey, The Selhurst Arms, 26/02/02

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imbored Flag UK 16 Feb 15 9.08am

Quote matt_himself at 16 Feb 2015 4.43am

Quote Kermit8 at 15 Feb 2015 10.16pm

Quote matt_himself at 15 Feb 2015 7.49pm

Quote Kermit8 at 15 Feb 2015 7.07pm

Quote matt_himself at 15 Feb 2015 6.51pm

Quote Kermit8 at 15 Feb 2015 6.24pm

Quote Stirlingsays at 15 Feb 2015 6.18pm

Quote Kermit8 at 15 Feb 2015 6.05pm

Ah, come on. 100 UKIP supporters being assessed to see what it is they have in common upstairs? I'd find it bloody interesting tbh.

Did someone say stereotype?



No, but they did say in common.

I suppose it would be very interesting to ask 100 middle class liberals who have opted out of living in mixed race areas, but who continually pontificate about how others should live their lives, what they would really think if a family of Somali's moved in next door to their house or a long term unemployed family with 6 kids, 3 dogs (the pit ill variety not the Paris Hilton variety), 2 ASBO's and a spent conviction for GBH were housed on their road by the social.

I bet the results would very contradictory to those views espoused on message boards.


And what exactly is wrong with having a family of Somalis living next door? Enlighten me. What are they like?

Where did I say there was anything wrong with living next to a family Somali's?


You juxtaposed the Somali family with a dysfunctional, anti-social, unemployable family in order to make your point about your perception of middle-class liberals attitudes should they be faced with something which, in your opinion, they would not like.

Why do you think they would have a problem with a Somali family?

Unless you can come up with a credible reason why you used them in your little thought process then I think it is reasonable to say It's because you would have a problem living next door to a Somali family, isn't it?


Another UKIP supporter outed with their distasteful views, Matthew?

How disappointing it had to be you.


Edited by Kermit8 (15 Feb 2015 10.21pm)

What bollocks you talk Michael.

I was using two examples of families that could be unappealing to white, middle class liberals like yourself who pontificate on how others should live their their lives yet cosy themselves away in nice white ghettos.

It's also interesting that your deflection tactics involve sticking up for the foreign family I highlighted and not the white, working class family, in my example. Why would you take that approach?

I didn't say once that it was bad to live next door to either and you know that, you just using cheap point scoring to deflect from the debate.

Please remember Michael, that I am in a relationship with an African. I have a lot of interaction with Africans and I enjoy spending time with Africans. I have found them to be polite guests and welcoming hosts, plus they hold conservative values which I largely concur with. I would far rather live next door to Africans than a white, middle class liberal whining drop out like yourself.

PS. If you could find an African within a 300 mile radius of where you live and you discuss politics with them, quite a few extoll an admiration for UKIP and Conservative policies. Very few support Labour. Interesting, eh?

Edited by matt_himself (16 Feb 2015 6.11am)


You claim to be innocently comparing a white working class family to an African one, as if Michael's allegiance lies with the former. In your initial comment your like for like involved comparing an African family to an anti social family with multiple convictions for violence. You didn't stipulate that they were white either.

Edited by imbored (16 Feb 2015 9.11am)

 

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nickgusset Flag Shizzlehurst 16 Feb 15 10.08am

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Quote nickgusset at 15 Feb 2015 11.55pm

Quote matt_himself at 15 Feb 2015 6.51pm

Quote Kermit8 at 15 Feb 2015 6.24pm

Quote Stirlingsays at 15 Feb 2015 6.18pm

Quote Kermit8 at 15 Feb 2015 6.05pm

Ah, come on. 100 UKIP supporters being assessed to see what it is they have in common upstairs? I'd find it bloody interesting tbh.

Did someone say stereotype?



No, but they did say in common.

I suppose it would be very interesting to ask 100 middle class liberals who have opted out of living in mixed race areas, but who continually pontificate about how others should live their lives, what they would really think if a family of Somali's moved in next door to their house or a long term unemployed family with 6 kids, 3 dogs (the pit ill variety not the Paris Hilton variety), 2 ASBO's and a spent conviction for GBH were housed on their road by the social.

I bet the results would very contradictory to those views espoused on message boards.


Haven't got Somalian neighbours, but the rest of my road is as you describe.
My next door neighbours are Bulgarian.
Is my middle class guilt assuaged now Matthew?

BTW. Still waiting for you response on education policies...


I have given up with you Gusset, unless you haven't guessed by now.

You have bored me to tedium too many times and there are far more interesting ways I can spend my time than 'debate' matters with you.

Jog on.


Elusive as ever. Well done Matthew.

 

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