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Mapletree Flag Croydon 13 Nov 20 11.47am Send a Private Message to Mapletree Add Mapletree as a friend

Originally posted by Badger11

Well even the BBC agrees with me much to my surprise.

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We are reasonably interesting. As I said. Whereas the EU is a strategic target.

Now watch the FDI change. Or I should say continue to change. There is less point now in basing yourself in the UK if you are a US firm. Your prime base either will be in your biggest EU market or in the country that is most easy to work out of. So Germany or Ireland.

 

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Spiderman Flag Horsham 13 Nov 20 11.49am Send a Private Message to Spiderman Add Spiderman as a friend

Originally posted by Wisbech Eagle

The financial businesses are impacted by the political environment, which is all I am talking about. London as a financial centre won't disappear but it's significance as a gateway to the EU will, and it's importance will diminish. Leaving the EU does nothing to help the city. The language is irrelevant these days. You hear more English in a Frankfurt restaurant than German, and often better spoken too! If the talent goes then it won't be there anymore! The centre will be elsewhere. Not overnight, but in a few years.

Before or after the sky has fallen in?

 

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Rudi Hedman Flag Caterham 13 Nov 20 11.53am Send a Private Message to Rudi Hedman Add Rudi Hedman as a friend

Originally posted by Wisbech Eagle

The financial businesses are impacted by the political environment, which is all I am talking about. London as a financial centre won't disappear but it's significance as a gateway to the EU will, and it's importance will diminish. Leaving the EU does nothing to help the city. The language is irrelevant these days. You hear more English in a Frankfurt restaurant than German, and often better spoken too! If the talent goes then it won't be there anymore! The centre will be elsewhere. Not overnight, but in a few years.

Like Switzerland then? Or not? U.K. didn’t join the Eurozone, London didn’t suffer. Leaving the EU, London doesn’t need to suffer either. And London has more to offer with its arts and entertainment and English education than the square mile.

 


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Yellow Card - User has been warned of conduct on the messageboards Hrolf The Ganger Flag 13 Nov 20 11.54am Send a Private Message to Hrolf The Ganger Add Hrolf The Ganger as a friend

Isn't it funny how he very same people who wanted to ignore the Brexit vote are the very same ones who are urging Trump to accept the result gracefully.

The never ending hypocrisy of these people is quite astonishing.
Always quick with self justification and seemingly completely lacking in self awareness. Or perhaps,and more disturbingly, fully aware of their treachery.

Edited by Hrolf The Ganger (13 Nov 2020 11.54am)

 

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Belmont Flag 13 Nov 20 11.59am Send a Private Message to Belmont Add Belmont as a friend

Originally posted by Wisbech Eagle

The financial businesses are impacted by the political environment, which is all I am talking about. London as a financial centre won't disappear but it's significance as a gateway to the EU will, and it's importance will diminish. Leaving the EU does nothing to help the city. The language is irrelevant these days. You hear more English in a Frankfurt restaurant than German, and often better spoken too! If the talent goes then it won't be there anymore! The centre will be elsewhere. Not overnight, but in a few years.

There is a reason that London is a financial hub and that is time zone, if the issue of passporting can be sorted I can't see the financial hub moving from London because where money is involved the big banks would have been leaving in droves already in my opinion if there was any hint of a threat to profits.

 

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Stirlingsays Flag 13 Nov 20 12.02pm Send a Private Message to Stirlingsays Holmesdale Online Elite Member Add Stirlingsays as a friend

Originally posted by Mapletree

Well, obviously I knew before I wrote that you know better than the #1 ranked Law course in the world. I just thought I would point out the Harvard view.

The rest I already said. Jurisdiction is agreed when a bilateral or multilateral law is entered into. You can breach law of course. Then like anyone found in breach, the relevant Court will establish sanctions.

It is extraordinarily rare for a country to do so as if you do it once you will probably do so again. Effectively you leave the club. The reason you joined that club is then lost to you.

We never had one default after winning an international case, most of which were overseen by the ICC or other similar bodies

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Harvard also think that men can be women and that equity is better than equality (not that I accept either).

Forgive me if I don't kneel before institutions you genuflect to.

Nothing you said has altered the reality that 'international law' doesn't exist. Only agreements between countries that wish to sign up to them....there is zero universality.

Many a time I heard that Blair and Bush broke this 'international law' over Iraq..what happened....Errrr.....Nothing.

What happened to Germany and France when they broke 'international law'...which in reality are EU rules....Errrr...nothing.

What happened to the USA when they broke 'international law'.....Errrr...nothing.

The only sanctions that exist are particular to the specific agreement the signers agreed.....In reality it's the same as it ever was and rules are applied selectively dependent upon what is deemed convenient and expedient.

International waffle more like.

Edited by Stirlingsays (13 Nov 2020 12.04pm)

 


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Rudi Hedman Flag Caterham 13 Nov 20 12.05pm Send a Private Message to Rudi Hedman Add Rudi Hedman as a friend

Originally posted by Belmont

There is a reason that London is a financial hub and that is time zone, if the issue of passporting can be sorted I can't see the financial hub moving from London because where money is involved the big banks would have been leaving in droves already in my opinion if there was any hint of a threat to profits.

That French, German and EU threat and want to impose taxes on financial trades when George Osbourne was chancellor would’ve put the fear of God into financial institutions and shareholders. Like inhaling a bucket of sick to them.

 


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Rudi Hedman Flag Caterham 13 Nov 20 12.09pm Send a Private Message to Rudi Hedman Add Rudi Hedman as a friend

Originally posted by Stirlingsays

Many a time I heard that Blair and Bush broke this 'international law' over Iraq..what happened....Errrr.....Nothing.

What happened to Germany and France when they broke 'international law'...which in reality are EU rules....Errrr...nothing.

What happened to the USA when they broke 'international law'.....Errrr...nothing.

The only sanctions that exist are particular to the specific agreement the signers agreed.....In reality it's the same as it ever was and rules are applied selectively dependent upon what is deemed convenient and expedient.

International waffle more like.


Oh yes. And rules not mattering when it’s usually France that wants to break them has been a big reason why Brits have had enough of it while we’ve abided by everything like teacher’s pets.

 


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Stirlingsays Flag 13 Nov 20 12.13pm Send a Private Message to Stirlingsays Holmesdale Online Elite Member Add Stirlingsays as a friend

Originally posted by Wisbech Eagle

I am surprised you don't know! It's:-

International Court of Justice
Peace Palace
Carnegieplein 2
2517 KJ The Hague
The Netherlands

The Judges are drawn from jurisdictions across the UN, including the UK. The way they are appointed can be found here:- [Link]

The jurisdiction of the Court is wide. This extract appears to apply to the current discussion, although I am no lawyer:-

c) Compulsory jurisdiction in legal disputes

The Statute provides that a State may recognize as compulsory, in relation to any other State accepting the same obligation, the jurisdiction of the Court in legal disputes. Such cases are brought before the Court by means of written applications. The nature of legal disputes in relation to which such compulsory jurisdiction may be recognized are listed in Article 36, paragraphs 2-5, of the Statute, which read as follows:

“2. The States parties to the present Statute may at any time declare that they recognize as compulsory ipso facto and without special agreement, in relation to any other State accepting the same obligation, the jurisdiction of the Court in all legal disputes concerning:

a) the interpretation of a treaty;
b) any question of international law;
c) the existence of any fact which, if established, would constitute a breach of an international obligation;
d) the nature or extent of the reparation to be made for the breach of an international obligation.

Edited by Wisbech Eagle (13 Nov 2020 10.59am)

What a joke.

This court claiming claiming 'international law' is little more than a funded treaty that only has power over its signees and can only take action against those that aren't protected by the powerful.

The organization has no police force or enforcement body. Oooh I wonder why....is it because 'international law' is in reality just a buzz phrase?

Let's see:

The US isn't a member.
China isn't a member.
Russia isn't a member.
Israel isn't a member.
Libya isn't a member.
Qatar isn't a member.

Fine words without power.

Edited by Stirlingsays (13 Nov 2020 12.16pm)

 


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Wisbech Eagle Flag Truro Cornwall 13 Nov 20 12.14pm Send a Private Message to Wisbech Eagle Add Wisbech Eagle as a friend

Originally posted by Spiderman

Before or after the sky has fallen in?

The sky won't fall in. It will just get cloudier and produce harder conditions than there needed to be.

 


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Wisbech Eagle Flag Truro Cornwall 13 Nov 20 12.20pm Send a Private Message to Wisbech Eagle Add Wisbech Eagle as a friend

Originally posted by Rudi Hedman

Like Switzerland then? Or not? U.K. didn’t join the Eurozone, London didn’t suffer. Leaving the EU, London doesn’t need to suffer either. And London has more to offer with its arts and entertainment and English education than the square mile.

Switzerland is tiny compared to the UK and has played a traditional tax haven role sandwiched between bigger states at the heart of Europe. The Eurozone is a red herring. That we as a country didn't participate made no real difference to the city.

London as a cultural and tourist attraction won't be affected in the same way but is hardly likely to be the magnet which attracts hard headed business minds.

 


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steeleye20 Flag Croydon 13 Nov 20 12.21pm Send a Private Message to steeleye20 Add steeleye20 as a friend

Originally posted by Stirlingsays

What a joke.

This court claiming claiming 'international law' is little more than a funded treaty that only has power over its signees and can only take action against those that aren't protected by the powerful.

The organization has no police force or enforcement body. Oooh I wonder why....is it because 'international law' is in reality just a buzz phrase?

Let's see:

The US isn't a member.
China isn't a member.
Russia isn't a member.
Israel isn't a member.
Libya isn't a member.
Qatar isn't a member.

Fine words without power.

Edited by Stirlingsays (13 Nov 2020 12.16pm)

It is simply a matter of being honest in your dealings and keeping your word.

Obviously if you don't then people will not bother with you.

 

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