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pefwin Where you have to have an English ... 17 May 17 7.12pm | |
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Originally posted by .TUX.
Governments don't own the printing presses, hence the reason we pay back the debt. Hmm many do including the UK until Blair separated the BoE from the State. Metaphorically, they can still print money through policies like QE.
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susmik PLYMOUTH -But Made in Old Coulsdon... 17 May 17 7.42pm | |
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Originally posted by CambridgeEagle
You've clearly not read or understood it. Borrowing to provide fiscal stimulus or provide nationally vital infrastructure investment is a totally reasonable and rational economic policy. There can be questions over specifics and the scope of the plans but the theory and evidence basis on which such plans are founded are creditable. Your analysis is asinine and offers no explanation. It is not only me that thinks Corbyns manifesto will kill this country: "BUSINESS grandee and former Labour Minister Digby Jones claims “ignorant” Jeremy Corbyn will spark an exodus from Britain. Referring to yesterday’s manifesto launch, he said: “I watched it open mouthed. Tim Knox of the Centre for Policy Studies said Britain would become the “sick man of Europe” under Labour. Now as for saying my analysis is asinine I think you are the one that is brain washed and not thinking straight. You are so Labour you cannot see the wood for the trees. Its a good job former Labour Minister Digby Jones has seen the light because you certainly have not and it is a waste of time debating with you as so many others in this thread have realised.
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Stirlingsays 17 May 17 7.46pm | |
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Originally posted by pefwin
Hmm many do including the UK until Blair separated the BoE from the State. Metaphorically, they can still print money through policies like QE. It isn't printing money it's giving the markets credit. It isn't anything like the same thing.
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steeleye20 Croydon 17 May 17 8.33pm | |
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Originally posted by Stirlingsays
It isn't printing money it's giving the markets credit. It isn't anything like the same thing. Yes printing money is discredited as it has caused massive inflation in the past. I struggled with QE but it really is just creating money out of thin air the problem is that its distribution is wrong it needs to go to Mr & Mrs Average as money for them to spend thus stimulating the economy without producing more debt. That's rather simplistic and has to be combined with very high interest rates to halt reckless borrowing and in my view much larger tax increases targeted at corporations and the wealthy who must pay back into society for their selfishness. It is easier for a camel to pass through a needle than it is for a rich man to go to heaven. Society has to be for the many not the few and the labour manifesto is a first step to returning to the idea that the government must serve the people not the privileged, the tories have failed absolutely by turning a crash into a debt disaster.
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nickgusset Shizzlehurst 17 May 17 8.56pm | |
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Originally posted by susmik
The reference is from John McDonnell !! To add a bit of humour to a thread that has got so serious:: The seven dwarfs always left to go to work in the mine early each morning. ...At least Dopey is still alive !' Unfortunately that seems to be the height of satire for some. And people actually think it's true (I can't think why with all the pro Labour media.)
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Hrolf The Ganger 17 May 17 9.34pm | |
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Originally posted by nickgusset
Unfortunately that seems to be the height of satire for some. And people actually think it's true (I can't think why with all the pro Labour media.) Corbyn is beyond satire.
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steeleye20 Croydon 17 May 17 10.27pm | |
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Originally posted by Hrolf The Ganger
Corbyn is beyond satire. The tories are beyond the pale. Elderly will have to pay for their own social care - tory manifesto.
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Stirlingsays 17 May 17 10.52pm | |
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Originally posted by steeleye20
The tories are beyond the pale. Elderly will have to pay for their own social care - tory manifesto. As a generalization the elderly will vote Tory regardless because they remember the seventies and secondly because they instinctively don't like people who stood up for the IRA when they were murdering our soldiers....and basically promoted any anti western movement out there. Corbyn has no chance in hell with the elderly and he knows it.
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Y Ddraig Goch In The Crowd 17 May 17 10.53pm | |
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Originally posted by susmik
It is not only me that thinks Corbyns manifesto will kill this country: "BUSINESS grandee and former Labour Minister Digby Jones claims “ignorant” Jeremy Corbyn will spark an exodus from Britain. Referring to yesterday’s manifesto launch, he said: “I watched it open mouthed. Tim Knox of the Centre for Policy Studies said Britain would become the “sick man of Europe” under Labour. Now as for saying my analysis is asinine I think you are the one that is brain washed and not thinking straight. You are so Labour you cannot see the wood for the trees. Its a good job former Labour Minister Digby Jones has seen the light because you certainly have not and it is a waste of time debating with you as so many others in this thread have realised. I haven't followed anything politics wise today but yesterday when asked about labour using figures from the Mirror and Private eye (I think) that cost some of the manifesto Thornberry couldn't deny it. I not aware of anything today that expands on that.
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steeleye20 Croydon 17 May 17 10.58pm | |
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Originally posted by Y Ddraig Goch
I haven't followed anything politics wise today but yesterday when asked about labour using figures from the Mirror and Private eye (I think) that cost some of the manifesto Thornberry couldn't deny it. I not aware of anything today that expands on that. Not sure about recently but the Mirror had a good record on their economic forecasting at one time and Private Eye might still think that 2 + 2 = 4 unlike 'The Economist'
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nickgusset Shizzlehurst 17 May 17 11.07pm | |
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Originally posted by Hrolf The Ganger
Corbyn is beyond satire. And you are Beyonce
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Bert the Head Epsom 17 May 17 11.13pm | |
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Originally posted by Y Ddraig Goch
I haven't followed anything politics wise today but yesterday when asked about labour using figures from the Mirror and Private eye (I think) that cost some of the manifesto Thornberry couldn't deny it. I not aware of anything today that expands on that. Our media is sick. Private Eye is much better than the Telegraph, Daily Mail, The Sun and the Evening Standard. Most of our papers are run by rich people to support the interests of rich people. They are con artists. The link is a bit of a rant but it raises a good point about the illusion of a free press.
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