Slip up?! The mail have form for this sort of thing.

Matt: I'll tell you what I find dull and stupid beyond belief : it is how there ARE so many people out there whose vote is SO encouraged by what they read from our biased press of today. And stop being so bl**dy condescending!

You've clearly got no idea how ironic that statement is.

Edited by Rubin (18 Jun 2016 10.57am)

Rubin: fair point and I am happy to raise my hand and say that I should've worded it better. I should've added that I studied Politics as a teenager that included analysis of voting behaviour with independent research statistics concluding that main factors influencing how people vote are:

a) Family tradition
b) Media influence

It would be great to pick up a 'news paper' one day rather than a 'views paper' whose monkey journalists have to dance to the tune of the political leanings of their editors and owners.

Fair enough.

I have to say that I've only come across one paper (discounting the Sun which actually announced its support of Brexit the other day) that has run a lot of pro-leave stories, and that is the Telegraph. That could be because it's biased, or it could be that it's readdressing the balance due to other paper's and media outlet's bias, or it could be because it's the only paper being balanced and not being selective over what it reports. Despite popular belief, the Mail has just as many pro remain articles as it does leave from what I've seen.

One thing that's annoyed me over the past couple of weeks is pro remain politicians and public figures coming out and saying something along the lines of "we need to stop the scare stories which both sides are guilty of". Scare stories are 95% of remain's arsenal, and trying to tar leave with the same brush is inaccurate in my opinion. The same goes for what they've been calling 'toxic' campaigning, with Amber Rudd personally attacking Johnson and Bob Geldof sticking his fingers up at working class fishermen who's livelihood has been destroyed directly as a result of the EU.

If anything, I think there leave camp could go a lot further than they have and get a bit conspiritorial, alluding to the kind of points that DivingIsNotGood has bought up on this thread. If they went down this route they'd be sacrificed by the pro-remain group and would do more harm than good to their campaign, even if a lot of it were true.

And the mirror would never spout s*** to support its agenda, would it?

Full of hypocrisy 'Sporty'. You support only that democracy you support. We know your sort.

"That was fun and to round off the day, I am off to steal a charity collection box and then desecrate a place of worship.” - Smokey, The Selhurst Arms, 26/02/02