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People looking funny? Where have I said that? Sounding funny? I don't like walking around where I have lived for twenty years and having to listen to tons of Eastern Europeans talking loudly in foreign languages and treating the place like they belong here. No, I don't like that......That is perhaps the country you'd like to live in....Not for me....I'm unhappy about it. Edited by Stirlingsays (15 Feb 2015 12.21am) Yes, that kind of thing. I have Eastern European friends. They are good people. I don't expect you to care about them, but they are entitled to be here and they're good people. They belong here. If you think otherwise, well that's for you. To me, it's a sad view, because for better of worse, how are people supposed to assimilate if you shun them and are angry at them when they've done nothing wrong... Talking loudly?? Do you want them to whisper because they're 'foreign'? Give me a break.
I don't agree with the principle of free movement.....I see it as partially responsible for the lamentable state of the working classes in this country in terms of housing, competition for jobs, low wages and social provision. This country has allowed its population to expand far in excess of its ability to provide for the least able. Edited by Stirlingsays (15 Feb 2015 12.44am) I'm not stereotyping I'm afraid, I'll leave that to you, but nice try. I'm saying that the people I know are good people. Funnily enough I don't become friends with hoards of unlikeable people, foreign or otherwise. You may well have taught Eastern Europeans and as part of your job you have to be professional, but unfortunately from the way you speak about them it doesn't seem like you've done much learning yourself. "loud", "waffling away", "like they belong here". Keep digging. I honestly find your stance quite sad. Unfortunately for you, these 'loud', 'waffling', 'own the place' foreigners, including the hard working students I assume you wish would go home, are set to remain despite seemingly polluting your atmosphere.. and unfortunately for me you get to keep spouting this kind of stuff to whoever's within earshot polluting theirs. I guess in a way there's balance to that.
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I'm not stereotyping I'm afraid, I'll leave that to you, but nice try. I'm saying that the people I know are good people. Funnily enough I don't become friends with hoards of unlikeable people, foreign or otherwise. You may well have taught Eastern Europeans and as part of your job you have to be professional, but unfortunately from the way you speak about them it doesn't seem like you've done much learning yourself. "loud", "waffling away", "like they belong here". Keep digging. I honestly find your stance quite sad. Unfortunately for you, these 'loud', 'waffling', 'own the place' foreigners, including the hard working students I assume you wish would go home, are set to remain despite seemingly polluting your atmosphere.. and unfortunately for me you get to keep spouting this kind of stuff to whoever's within earshot polluting theirs. I guess in a way there's balance to that. Your behaviour on this forum is that of an unethical person who stereotypes and misrepresents. So really....to be honest your appraisals don't mean anything to me.
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I'm not stereotyping I'm afraid, I'll leave that to you, but nice try. I'm saying that the people I know are good people. Funnily enough I don't become friends with hoards of unlikeable people, foreign or otherwise. You may well have taught Eastern Europeans and as part of your job you have to be professional, but unfortunately from the way you speak about them it doesn't seem like you've done much learning yourself. "loud", "waffling away", "like they belong here". Keep digging. I honestly find your stance quite sad. Unfortunately for you, these 'loud', 'waffling', 'own the place' foreigners, including the hard working students I assume you wish would go home, are set to remain despite seemingly polluting your atmosphere.. and unfortunately for me you get to keep spouting this kind of stuff to whoever's within earshot polluting theirs. I guess in a way there's balance to that. Your behaviour on this forum is that of an unethical person who stereotypes and misrepresents. So really....to be honest your appraisals don't mean anything to me. When legal rightly described this to be about ethnicity, essentially about culture and language, you completely misrepresented his point and entered angry and offended mode. That got my goat. Now you think the same has happened to you despite your "don't belong here" attitudes towards foreigners and it's angry mode once again. So you're angry regardless of the merits of what you're actually saying. That's what you should worry about. In other UKIP news..
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| imbored UK 15 Feb 15 9.38am |
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UKIP candidate in welsh Flag "sign of Satan" controvery. I appreciate that UKIP don't have an easy time appealing to minority groups, but it does appear that there's no due diligence when they try to get people on board to change their image. This guy is clearly madder than a box of frogs. Edited by imbored (15 Feb 2015 9.38am)
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| Stirlingsays 15 Feb 15 3.44pm |
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Like I said, I'm not angry, because your views aren't balanced I don't really care what you think. I will however react against misrepresentation and unethical posts. I quite like Legal as a poster as though he was wrong to imply racism, As far as I remember the argument was that he said that he hadn't implied that....I didn't agree but was happy to move on. He's a good poster who it's fun to debate with. he was right about my cultural preferences.....But then again they aren't anything I've ever hidden...I written about them several times, even in this thread. What seems to be the case to me is that if something doesn't fit your own prejudices you don't accept it. Again, there isn't much point to you being on a debating forum. As for foreigners not belonging here....Maybe you should take the hint from the actual meaning of the word.......As for foreigners being here....That's fine, we are all foreigners when we go on holiday or work abroad.....But it should be in reasonable numbers for several different reasons. As for this egalitarian attitude to believing that foreigners should access everything a national accesses. Nope not for me.....And not for most people in the country.
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Quote imbored at 15 Feb 2015 9.38am
UKIP candidate in welsh Flag "sign of Satan" controvery. I appreciate that UKIP don't have an easy time appealing to minority groups, but it does appear that there's no due diligence when they try to get people on board to change their image. This guy is clearly madder than a box of frogs. Edited by imbored (15 Feb 2015 9.38am) Never been too bothered by UKIP....now it's personal
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Kermit8  Hevon 15 Feb 15 5.20pm |
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I suppose you gotta wonder why 85% of the population won't be voting UKIP if they have such a strong and resounding policy? What is it about the 15% that attracts them so to Nigel Fuhrage?
Edited by matt_himself (14 Feb 2015 7.42pm)
Then why ask the UKIP question unless it is intended as wind up because the answer to your question is the same as above. You have to try harder Michael.
I am not barking up the wrong tree. You are trying to make out that the 15% are inferior to the rest of the population. That they are bigoted, hate filled and fascist. Your sub text is apparent to all. And it is pathetic Michael.
However, UKIP supporters today: When I see them, hear them, read their words...they seem to be very much more right-wing than your average citizen and they also seem to have a siege mentality bordering on paranoia. Not as bad as that old EDL lot but you get my drift. Their psyche, though, appears to have parallels with extreme left wingers and their pathological need to be forceful and controlling. Maybe Jaime could interject at this point. He knows more about personality traits than I. Is this a fair assessment? Not bigots nor fascists necessarily but ones who have very, very strong beliefs - evangelical if you will - and, thus, to a questionable point about their rationality.
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| matt_himself Matataland 15 Feb 15 5.56pm |
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I suppose you gotta wonder why 85% of the population won't be voting UKIP if they have such a strong and resounding policy? What is it about the 15% that attracts them so to Nigel Fuhrage?
Edited by matt_himself (14 Feb 2015 7.42pm)
Then why ask the UKIP question unless it is intended as wind up because the answer to your question is the same as above. You have to try harder Michael.
I am not barking up the wrong tree. You are trying to make out that the 15% are inferior to the rest of the population. That they are bigoted, hate filled and fascist. Your sub text is apparent to all. And it is pathetic Michael.
However, UKIP supporters: When I see them, hear them, read their words...they seem to be very much more right-wing than your average citizen and they also seem to have a siege mentality bordering on paranoia. Not as bad as that old EDL lot but you get my drift. Their psyche, though, appears to have parallels with extreme left wingers and their pathological need to be forceful and controlling. Maybe Jaime could interject at this point. He knows more about personality traits than I. Is this a fair assessment? Not bigots nor fascists necessarily but ones who have very, very strong beliefs - evangelical if you will - and, thus, to a questionable point.
No sale. You have been posting your 'oh so knowing' predictions of doom regarding UKIP for years and your agenda to portray UKIP supporters, members or sympathisers as lesser humans has continued unabated. I think instead of asking Jamie to back up your wiki-psychology, you would do better to ask him why a middle class keyboard warrior living in a white ghetto continues to try to assuage his obvious guilt at enjoying a pampered life by taking out his anger on UKIP.
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| Kermit8 Hevon 15 Feb 15 6.00pm |
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Quote matt_himself at 15 Feb 2015 5.56pm
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Quote Kermit8 at 14 Feb 2015 7.38pm
I suppose you gotta wonder why 85% of the population won't be voting UKIP if they have such a strong and resounding policy? What is it about the 15% that attracts them so to Nigel Fuhrage?
Edited by matt_himself (14 Feb 2015 7.42pm)
Then why ask the UKIP question unless it is intended as wind up because the answer to your question is the same as above. You have to try harder Michael.
I am not barking up the wrong tree. You are trying to make out that the 15% are inferior to the rest of the population. That they are bigoted, hate filled and fascist. Your sub text is apparent to all. And it is pathetic Michael.
However, UKIP supporters: When I see them, hear them, read their words...they seem to be very much more right-wing than your average citizen and they also seem to have a siege mentality bordering on paranoia. Not as bad as that old EDL lot but you get my drift. Their psyche, though, appears to have parallels with extreme left wingers and their pathological need to be forceful and controlling. Maybe Jaime could interject at this point. He knows more about personality traits than I. Is this a fair assessment? Not bigots nor fascists necessarily but ones who have very, very strong beliefs - evangelical if you will - and, thus, to a questionable point.
No sale. You have been posting your 'oh so knowing' predictions of doom regarding UKIP for years and your agenda to portray UKIP supporters, members or sympathisers as lesser humans has continued unabated. I think instead of asking Jamie fro back up your wiki-psychology, you would do better to ask him why a middle class keyboard warrior living in a white ghetto continues to try to assuage his obvious guilt at enjoying a pampered life by taking out his anger on UKIP.
You said it. Not me. Edited by Kermit8 (15 Feb 2015 6.03pm)
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| matt_himself Matataland 15 Feb 15 6.01pm |
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I suppose you gotta wonder why 85% of the population won't be voting UKIP if they have such a strong and resounding policy? What is it about the 15% that attracts them so to Nigel Fuhrage?
Edited by matt_himself (14 Feb 2015 7.42pm)
Then why ask the UKIP question unless it is intended as wind up because the answer to your question is the same as above. You have to try harder Michael.
I am not barking up the wrong tree. You are trying to make out that the 15% are inferior to the rest of the population. That they are bigoted, hate filled and fascist. Your sub text is apparent to all. And it is pathetic Michael.
However, UKIP supporters: When I see them, hear them, read their words...they seem to be very much more right-wing than your average citizen and they also seem to have a siege mentality bordering on paranoia. Not as bad as that old EDL lot but you get my drift. Their psyche, though, appears to have parallels with extreme left wingers and their pathological need to be forceful and controlling. Maybe Jaime could interject at this point. He knows more about personality traits than I. Is this a fair assessment? Not bigots nor fascists necessarily but ones who have very, very strong beliefs - evangelical if you will - and, thus, to a questionable point.
No sale. You have been posting your 'oh so knowing' predictions of doom regarding UKIP for years and your agenda to portray UKIP supporters, members or sympathisers as lesser humans has continued unabated. I think instead of asking Jamie fro back up your wiki-psychology, you would do better to ask him why a middle class keyboard warrior living in a white ghetto continues to try to assuage his obvious guilt at enjoying a pampered life by taking out his anger on UKIP.
You said it. Not me.
Give it up Michael.
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| Kermit8 Hevon 15 Feb 15 6.03pm |
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I thought Keyboard warriors are people who give out their seat numbers, etc, and other disguised threats of violence with no intention of carrying them out?
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Quote matt_himself at 15 Feb 2015 6.01pm
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I suppose you gotta wonder why 85% of the population won't be voting UKIP if they have such a strong and resounding policy? What is it about the 15% that attracts them so to Nigel Fuhrage?
Edited by matt_himself (14 Feb 2015 7.42pm)
Then why ask the UKIP question unless it is intended as wind up because the answer to your question is the same as above. You have to try harder Michael.
I am not barking up the wrong tree. You are trying to make out that the 15% are inferior to the rest of the population. That they are bigoted, hate filled and fascist. Your sub text is apparent to all. And it is pathetic Michael.
However, UKIP supporters: When I see them, hear them, read their words...they seem to be very much more right-wing than your average citizen and they also seem to have a siege mentality bordering on paranoia. Not as bad as that old EDL lot but you get my drift. Their psyche, though, appears to have parallels with extreme left wingers and their pathological need to be forceful and controlling. Maybe Jaime could interject at this point. He knows more about personality traits than I. Is this a fair assessment? Not bigots nor fascists necessarily but ones who have very, very strong beliefs - evangelical if you will - and, thus, to a questionable point.
No sale. You have been posting your 'oh so knowing' predictions of doom regarding UKIP for years and your agenda to portray UKIP supporters, members or sympathisers as lesser humans has continued unabated. I think instead of asking Jamie fro back up your wiki-psychology, you would do better to ask him why a middle class keyboard warrior living in a white ghetto continues to try to assuage his obvious guilt at enjoying a pampered life by taking out his anger on UKIP.
You said it. Not me.
Give it up Michael. Ah, come on. 100 UKIP supporters being assessed to see what it is they have in common upstairs? I'd find it bloody interesting tbh.
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