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Spiderman Horsham 04 May 19 7.33am
Originally posted by Spiderman Yes I do but unfortunately I have no OFFICIAL figures to back this up just a whole lot of experience so presumably you wont believe me but I know what I know A LEADING cancer specialist believes one in every 20 patients he treated as a consultant at London’s Royal Marsden Hospital was a health tourist.Dr Meirion Thomas said the number of health tourists was “grossly underrated” and estimated the true cost of ineligible foreign patients using the NHS to be £2 billion a year. A voice from the inside for you PP. Just maybe official figures are underestimated but of course, you agree with official figures when they meet with your agenda
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Horsham 04 May 19 7.33am

Originally posted by Spiderman

Yes I do but unfortunately I have no OFFICIAL figures to back this up just a whole lot of experience so presumably you wont believe me but I know what I know

A LEADING cancer specialist believes one in every 20 patients he treated as a consultant at London’s Royal Marsden Hospital was a health tourist.Dr Meirion Thomas said the number of health tourists was “grossly underrated” and estimated the true cost of ineligible foreign patients using the NHS to be £2 billion a year.

A voice from the inside for you PP. Just maybe official figures are underestimated but of course, you agree with official figures when they meet with your agenda

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Stirlingsays 04 May 19 10.38am
I'll make a prediction. I can only see the pure party loyalists out there voting Tory or Labour. The Brexit party will win by taking most of the Ukip and a large chunk of the Tory vote.....and the remain vote will mostly go to either Change or the Liberals......Probably more the liberals because they were always remain. It makes sense for either leave or remain to choose one party and not split their vote....even if they have to hold their nose a bit. I guess we will see how that pans out. Edited by Stirlingsays (04 May 2019 10.40am) 'Who are you and how did you get in here? I'm a locksmith. And, I'm a locksmith.' (Leslie Nielsen)
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04 May 19 10.38am

I'll make a prediction.

I can only see the pure party loyalists out there voting Tory or Labour.

The Brexit party will win by taking most of the Ukip and a large chunk of the Tory vote.....and the remain vote will mostly go to either Change or the Liberals......Probably more the liberals because they were always remain.

It makes sense for either leave or remain to choose one party and not split their vote....even if they have to hold their nose a bit. I guess we will see how that pans out.

Edited by Stirlingsays (04 May 2019 10.40am)

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Willo South coast - west of Brighton. 04 May 19 10.51am
Originally posted by Stirlingsays I'll make a prediction. I can only see the pure party loyalists out there voting Tory or Labour. The Brexit party will win by taking most of the Ukip and a large chunk of the Tory vote.....and the remain vote will mostly go to either Change or the Liberals......Probably more the liberals because they were always remain. It makes sense for either leave or remain to choose one party and not split their vote....even if they have to hold their nose a bit. I guess we will see how that pans out. Edited by Stirlingsays (04 May 2019 10.40am) I wholeheartedly concur and Farage will be beaming like a TV gameshow dollybird the next morning. The final humiliation is now being delivered upon us in the form of the European elections – elections to an institution we voted to leave three years ago. These negotiations have become a national humiliation and a joke. It is May that has allowed this to happen. We Tories need a new leader who may not be able to change the Commons numbers overnight, but can bring a vision, win hearts and minds and believes in a Global Brexit. Edited by Willo (04 May 2019 10.54am)
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South coast - west of Brighton. 04 May 19 10.51am

Originally posted by Stirlingsays

I'll make a prediction.

I can only see the pure party loyalists out there voting Tory or Labour.

The Brexit party will win by taking most of the Ukip and a large chunk of the Tory vote.....and the remain vote will mostly go to either Change or the Liberals......Probably more the liberals because they were always remain.

It makes sense for either leave or remain to choose one party and not split their vote....even if they have to hold their nose a bit. I guess we will see how that pans out.

Edited by Stirlingsays (04 May 2019 10.40am)

I wholeheartedly concur and Farage will be beaming like a TV gameshow dollybird the next morning.

The final humiliation is now being delivered upon us in the form of the European elections – elections to an institution we voted to leave three years ago. These negotiations have become a national humiliation and a joke. It is May that has allowed this to happen. We Tories need a new leader who may not be able to change the Commons numbers overnight, but can bring a vision, win hearts and minds and believes in a Global Brexit.

Edited by Willo (04 May 2019 10.54am)

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jeeagles 04 May 19 11.21am
Originally posted by Spiderman A LEADING cancer specialist believes one in every 20 patients he treated as a consultant at London’s Royal Marsden Hospital was a health tourist.Dr Meirion Thomas said the number of health tourists was “grossly underrated” and estimated the true cost of ineligible foreign patients using the NHS to be £2 billion a year. A voice from the inside for you PP. Just maybe official figures are underestimated but of course, you agree with official figures when they meet with your agenda The difficulty is how to measure health tourism. Statistics only measure people who aren't residents and sneak through the system. There are people, like my old neighbours, who moved from the UK from eastern Europe whilst the woman was pregnant. Had a baby, waited about a year, and left. In that time, they would have definitely not paid enough tax to cover the NHS costs of having a baby. In Germany there are rules about immigrants access to government services which can be applied within the existing EU framework. Which does show the government could do more to stop it without leaving the EU.
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04 May 19 11.21am

Originally posted by Spiderman

A voice from the inside for you PP. Just maybe official figures are underestimated but of course, you agree with official figures when they meet with your agenda

The difficulty is how to measure health tourism. Statistics only measure people who aren't residents and sneak through the system.

There are people, like my old neighbours, who moved from the UK from eastern Europe whilst the woman was pregnant. Had a baby, waited about a year, and left.

In that time, they would have definitely not paid enough tax to cover the NHS costs of having a baby.

In Germany there are rules about immigrants access to government services which can be applied within the existing EU framework. Which does show the government could do more to stop it without leaving the EU.

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Stirlingsays 04 May 19 11.24am
Originally posted by Willo I wholeheartedly concur and Farage will be beaming like a TV gameshow dollybird the next morning. The final humiliation is now being delivered upon us in the form of the European elections – elections to an institution we voted to leave three years ago. These negotiations have become a national humiliation and a joke. It is May that has allowed this to happen. We Tories need a new leader who may not be able to change the Commons numbers overnight, but can bring a vision, win hearts and minds and believes in a Global Brexit. Edited by Willo (04 May 2019 10.54am) All true Willo, it's all happening...the eyes of Europe will be on us. Both the growing EU exit movements and the EU fanboys/girls. 'Who are you and how did you get in here? I'm a locksmith. And, I'm a locksmith.' (Leslie Nielsen)
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Stirlingsays

04 May 19 11.24am

Originally posted by Willo

I wholeheartedly concur and Farage will be beaming like a TV gameshow dollybird the next morning.

Edited by Willo (04 May 2019 10.54am)

All true Willo, it's all happening...the eyes of Europe will be on us. Both the growing EU exit movements and the EU fanboys/girls.

'Who are you and how did you get in here? I'm a locksmith. And, I'm a locksmith.' (Leslie Nielsen)

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Pussay Patrol 04 May 19 1.13pm
Originally posted by Spiderman A LEADING cancer specialist believes one in every 20 patients he treated as a consultant at London’s Royal Marsden Hospital was a health tourist.Dr Meirion Thomas said the number of health tourists was “grossly underrated” and estimated the true cost of ineligible foreign patients using the NHS to be £2 billion a year. A voice from the inside for you PP. Just maybe official figures are underestimated but of course, you agree with official figures when they meet with your agenda Link? Paua oouaarancì Irà chiyeah Ishé galé ma ba oo ah
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04 May 19 1.13pm

Originally posted by Spiderman

A voice from the inside for you PP. Just maybe official figures are underestimated but of course, you agree with official figures when they meet with your agenda

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Badger11 Beckenham 04 May 19 1.18pm
Mrs May is like a girlfriend who will not accept that she has been dumped. All we get from her is "I understand, I hear the voters, we have to deliver etc." What part of why don't you just feck off doesn't she get. She is an embarrassment to country and the Tory party especially the grass roots. The Tories got a drubbing from the voters but I I was a party member I would be really concerned that many in the Tory party have downed tools until she goes. Once upon a time the Tories were good at getting rid of leaders who had overstayed their welcome, where are the grey men? One more point
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Beckenham 04 May 19 1.18pm

Mrs May is like a girlfriend who will not accept that she has been dumped. All we get from her is "I understand, I hear the voters, we have to deliver etc."

What part of why don't you just feck off doesn't she get.

She is an embarrassment to country and the Tory party especially the grass roots. The Tories got a drubbing from the voters but I I was a party member I would be really concerned that many in the Tory party have downed tools until she goes.

Once upon a time the Tories were good at getting rid of leaders who had overstayed their welcome, where are the grey men?

One more point

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Spiderman Horsham 04 May 19 1.34pm
Originally posted by Pussay Patrol Link? [Link] There we go! I am sure you will dismiss this as only a Daily Express article but my other link was from the The Guardian, the reason I posted the Guardian link was that, you and others, who are adamant that the mood has changed towards Brexit need to think again
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Horsham 04 May 19 1.34pm

Originally posted by Pussay Patrol

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There we go! I am sure you will dismiss this as only a Daily Express article but my other link was from the The Guardian, the reason I posted the Guardian link was that, you and others, who are adamant that the mood has changed towards Brexit need to think again

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Willo South coast - west of Brighton. 04 May 19 3.07pm
Originally posted by Badger11 Mrs May is like a girlfriend who will not accept that she has been dumped. All we get from her is "I understand, I hear the voters, we have to deliver etc." What part of why don't you just feck off doesn't she get. She is an embarrassment to country and the Tory party especially the grass roots. The Tories got a drubbing from the voters but I I was a party member I would be really concerned that many in the Tory party have downed tools until she goes. Once upon a time the Tories were good at getting rid of leaders who had overstayed their welcome, where are the grey men? 70 or so Association Chairmen who have signed a petition calling for an emergency meeting of the National Convention.It is momentous that so many Association Chairmen feel so strongly as to sign a petition calling on May to resign. Many people feel Mrs May is destroying the party.
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Willo

South coast - west of Brighton. 04 May 19 3.07pm

Originally posted by Badger11

Mrs May is like a girlfriend who will not accept that she has been dumped. All we get from her is "I understand, I hear the voters, we have to deliver etc."

What part of why don't you just feck off doesn't she get.

She is an embarrassment to country and the Tory party especially the grass roots. The Tories got a drubbing from the voters but I I was a party member I would be really concerned that many in the Tory party have downed tools until she goes.

Once upon a time the Tories were good at getting rid of leaders who had overstayed their welcome, where are the grey men?

70 or so Association Chairmen who have signed a petition calling for an emergency meeting of the National Convention.It is momentous that so many Association Chairmen feel so strongly as to sign a petition calling on May to resign.

Many people feel Mrs May is destroying the party.

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chris123 hove actually 04 May 19 4.30pm
Originally posted by Willo 70 or so Association Chairmen who have signed a petition calling for an emergency meeting of the National Convention.It is momentous that so many Association Chairmen feel so strongly as to sign a petition calling on May to resign. Many people feel Mrs May is destroying the party. Doesn't change the numbers in Parliament though, still a stalemate.
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chris123

hove actually 04 May 19 4.30pm

Originally posted by Willo

Many people feel Mrs May is destroying the party.

Doesn't change the numbers in Parliament though, still a stalemate.

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Badger11 Beckenham 04 May 19 4.49pm
Originally posted by chris123 Doesn't change the numbers in Parliament though, still a stalemate. True but one thing at a time. First get rid of May then find someone who will take us out with or without a deal. If Parliament refuses to vote for us to leave then call a general election with that as the main issue. One more point
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Beckenham 04 May 19 4.49pm

Originally posted by chris123

Doesn't change the numbers in Parliament though, still a stalemate.

True but one thing at a time.

First get rid of May then find someone who will take us out with or without a deal. If Parliament refuses to vote for us to leave then call a general election with that as the main issue.

One more point

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