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 Rudi Hedman  Caterham 13 Nov 20 10.27am |
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Quite amusing reading how America is going to drop tiny U.K. for Ireland instead. Brilliant. And of course because of the potato famine. It’s as if people saying this bilge want it. Oh they do. Perhaps they can go to America as well seeing as we’ll be destitute ourselves soon in their eyes snd wishes.
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 Hrolf The Ganger 13 Nov 20 10.37am |
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If only that Anglophile Trump could be President. Now we have a British hating nonce in charge. But as long as you get rid of Trump eh! idiots.
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| Wisbech Eagle Truro Cornwall 13 Nov 20 10.42am |
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Originally posted by Rudi Hedman
Quite amusing reading how America is going to drop tiny U.K. for Ireland instead. Brilliant. And of course because of the potato famine. It’s as if people saying this bilge want it. Oh they do. Perhaps they can go to America as well seeing as we’ll be destitute ourselves soon in their eyes snd wishes. It won't. It will use Ireland as it's bridge to the rest of Europe, which to some degree it already does. At one time US companies found it more comfortable to put their European HQ in the UK, where the language and culture was familiar. Those days have slipped away and will now disappear completely. If we start to lose our financial services sector to Paris and Frankfurt then perhaps the folly of Brexit might become clear even to you.
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| Hrolf The Ganger 13 Nov 20 10.51am |
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Originally posted by Wisbech Eagle
It won't. It will use Ireland as it's bridge to the rest of Europe, which to some degree it already does. At one time US companies found it more comfortable to put their European HQ in the UK, where the language and culture was familiar. Those days have slipped away and will now disappear completely. If we start to lose our financial services sector to Paris and Frankfurt then perhaps the folly of Brexit might become clear even to you. That is what you would like to believe.
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| Rudi Hedman Caterham 13 Nov 20 10.56am |
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Originally posted by Wisbech Eagle
It won't. It will use Ireland as it's bridge to the rest of Europe, which to some degree it already does. At one time US companies found it more comfortable to put their European HQ in the UK, where the language and culture was familiar. Those days have slipped away and will now disappear completely. If we start to lose our financial services sector to Paris and Frankfurt then perhaps the folly of Brexit might become clear even to you. Yes rural Ireland is all setup for it. How silly of us to not see it all coming. London has always been THE financial centre and still everyone wants to be in London. When the Euro came in it was going to cost tens of thousands of jobs in London. It probably made more jobs. I remember the EU wanting to put a tax on all stock, futures market and financial trades. We didn’t and we wouldn’t. Most of these Brexit doom stories are expected from the people they come from.
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| Wisbech Eagle Truro Cornwall 13 Nov 20 10.57am |
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Originally posted by Tim Gypsy Hill '64
Has anyone got the address of this International Law court? Or who the appointed judges are on said panel of judges? If not then the matter of breaking an agreement made with a foreign state is a matter between two states. It has no relevence to the rest of the world. If the issue over the Irish border comes to a head, it will be the EU that instate a hard border, not the UK. I am surprised you don't know! It's:- International Court of Justice The Judges are drawn from jurisdictions across the UN, including the UK. The way they are appointed can be found here:- [Link] The jurisdiction of the Court is wide. This extract appears to apply to the current discussion, although I am no lawyer:- c) Compulsory jurisdiction in legal disputes The Statute provides that a State may recognize as compulsory, in relation to any other State accepting the same obligation, the jurisdiction of the Court in legal disputes. Such cases are brought before the Court by means of written applications. The nature of legal disputes in relation to which such compulsory jurisdiction may be recognized are listed in Article 36, paragraphs 2-5, of the Statute, which read as follows: “2. The States parties to the present Statute may at any time declare that they recognize as compulsory ipso facto and without special agreement, in relation to any other State accepting the same obligation, the jurisdiction of the Court in all legal disputes concerning: a) the interpretation of a treaty; Edited by Wisbech Eagle (13 Nov 2020 10.59am)
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| Wisbech Eagle Truro Cornwall 13 Nov 20 11.12am |
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Originally posted by Rudi Hedman
Yes rural Ireland is all setup for it. How silly of us to not see it all coming. London has always been THE financial centre and still everyone wants to be in London. When the Euro came in it was going to cost tens of thousands of jobs in London. It probably made more jobs. I remember the EU wanting to put a tax on all stock, futures market and financial trades. We didn’t and we wouldn’t. Most of these Brexit doom stories are expected from the people they come from. They aren't Brexit doom stories at all. They are a simple common sense appraisal of the reality of a significant change in circumstances which until 2020 hasn't existed. It is unlikely to be an avalanche. More likely a slow drift away. We might not have participated in the Euro but we traded in it, so the impact was minimal. Everything though has changed. We have put ourselves outside the fence. We won't be party to the discussions. People need to be close to the action. Not for the back office work but for the ears to the ground things picked up via personal contact.
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| Rudi Hedman Caterham 13 Nov 20 11.27am |
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Originally posted by Wisbech Eagle
They aren't Brexit doom stories at all. They are a simple common sense appraisal of the reality of a significant change in circumstances which until 2020 hasn't existed. It is unlikely to be an avalanche. More likely a slow drift away. We might not have participated in the Euro but we traded in it, so the impact was minimal. Everything though has changed. We have put ourselves outside the fence. We won't be party to the discussions. People need to be close to the action. Not for the back office work but for the ears to the ground things picked up via personal contact. You’ve moved away from financial setups to talking politics snd our involvement in the European Union. The prediction was we would suffer badly by not being in the euro. We didn’t. We will still trade in the euro and with all the countries and people as we are now. We won’t be putting taxes on financial transactions like Frankfurt, Paris, any French leader wants to, or the EU. English being the only language spoken here still draws people and business here, including America. Everyone educated around the world speaks English and it will always be an advantage. You don’t expect everyone to speak English at work all day in other countries because you can’t speak the language of the country and office you’re in. They will if you’re a client etc but by being in London you’re in the hub where the best talent can and do work there. Your slow drift away expectation is probably covering your nonsense or because even you don’t even believe yourself.
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 becky over the moon 13 Nov 20 11.27am |
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Originally posted by steeleye20
The UK has no influence in Europe having left. The days of the USA regarding the UK as a bridge to Europe are gone. No Ronnie and Maggie, no special favours. JB will be most concerned over the Good Friday Accord and will be polite and friendly and firm. Will drop in sometime to visit HM perhaps. Only if he's invited. Oh, and let's hope that Europe will be keen to further their 'special relationship' when the hair-sniffing perv starts another war and wants someone else's army to back him.
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| Rudi Hedman Caterham 13 Nov 20 11.37am |
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Originally posted by becky
Only if he's invited. Oh, and let's hope that Europe will be keen to further their 'special relationship' when the hair-sniffing perv starts another war and wants someone else's army to back him. Better rally rural Ireland and all the Irish surnames in the USA as it shares so much and has shared so much in recent times. Oh wait a minute. Apart from Paddy’s day and a few films.
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| becky over the moon 13 Nov 20 11.39am |
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Originally posted by Rudi Hedman
Better rally rural Ireland and all the Irish surnames in the USA as it shares so much and has shared so much in recent times. Oh wait a minute. Apart from Paddy’s day and a few films. The sight of all those rustic Paddy's with their knobbly sticks should terrify most nations........
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| Wisbech Eagle Truro Cornwall 13 Nov 20 11.43am |
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Originally posted by Rudi Hedman
You’ve moved away from financial setups to talking politics snd our involvement in the European Union. The prediction was we would suffer badly by not being in the euro. We didn’t. We will still trade in the euro and with all the countries and people as we are now. We won’t be putting taxes on financial transactions like Frankfurt, Paris, any French leader wants to, or the EU. English being the only language spoken here still draws people and business here, including America. Everyone educated around the world speaks English and it will always be an advantage. You don’t expect everyone to speak English at work all day in other countries because you can’t speak the language of the country and office you’re in. They will if you’re a client etc but by being in London you’re in the hub where the best talent can and do work there. Your slow drift away expectation is probably covering your nonsense or because even you don’t even believe yourself. The financial businesses are impacted by the political environment, which is all I am talking about. London as a financial centre won't disappear but it's significance as a gateway to the EU will, and it's importance will diminish. Leaving the EU does nothing to help the city. The language is irrelevant these days. You hear more English in a Frankfurt restaurant than German, and often better spoken too! If the talent goes then it won't be there anymore! The centre will be elsewhere. Not overnight, but in a few years.
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