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Hrolf The Ganger 27 Jun 16 7.53pm | |
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Originally posted by nickgusset
To be fair, it was his best one liner in his whole tenure. They will miss him at PQT. He is one of the best in that arena.
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nickgusset Shizzlehurst 27 Jun 16 8.00pm | |
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Originally posted by Hrolf The Ganger
Look Mr Gussett, it is very simple. A large chunk of the parliamentary party know that Corbyn can't become PM. He is clinging on because of his grass roots support but he must put the future of his party above his own ambitions or his rigid adherence to ideology. I know you believe in him but you are kidding yorself. I don't think I am kidding myself.
By launching their opportunistic self-serving coup now, the Blairites have helped the Tories climb out of a hole of their own digging, and voluntarily shoved the Labour Party down there in their place. These people are venal self-serving fools, who clearly consider their own ideological vendetta against Jeremy Corbyn to be far more important than the best interests of the Labour Party, or doing the job they're supposed to: Opposing the Tories.
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Hrolf The Ganger 27 Jun 16 10.02pm | |
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Originally posted by nickgusset
I don't think I am kidding myself.
By launching their opportunistic self-serving coup now, the Blairites have helped the Tories climb out of a hole of their own digging, and voluntarily shoved the Labour Party down there in their place. These people are venal self-serving fools, who clearly consider their own ideological vendetta against Jeremy Corbyn to be far more important than the best interests of the Labour Party, or doing the job they're supposed to: Opposing the Tories. And Corbyn will still never be PM. Which part of that don't you get?
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nickgusset Shizzlehurst 27 Jun 16 10.07pm | |
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Originally posted by Hrolf The Ganger
And Corbyn will still never be PM. Which part of that don't you get? What about the timing of the coup.
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Hrolf The Ganger 27 Jun 16 10.12pm | |
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Originally posted by nickgusset
What about the timing of the coup. Politicians are opportunists and they see a chance to oust Corbyn in the best interests of the party.
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nickgusset Shizzlehurst 27 Jun 16 11.02pm | |
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Originally posted by Hrolf The Ganger
Politicians are opportunists and they see a chance to oust Corbyn in the best interests of the party. Think they should have waited just a wee while
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OldFella London 28 Jun 16 12.31am | |
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Originally posted by nickgusset
I don't think I am kidding myself.
By launching their opportunistic self-serving coup now, the Blairites have helped the Tories climb out of a hole of their own digging, and voluntarily shoved the Labour Party down there in their place. These people are venal self-serving fools, who clearly consider their own ideological vendetta against Jeremy Corbyn to be far more important than the best interests of the Labour Party, or doing the job they're supposed to: Opposing the Tories. Nick, every time I read your posts I genuinely feel sorry for you. So much bitterness and politics of envy, so many ad hominem comments. And a real failure to grasp that Labour under Corbyn will never make any mark or gain any mandate. SURELY you can see that? Virtually everyone else can.
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nickgusset Shizzlehurst 28 Jun 16 9.07am | |
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I don't think Corbyn has actually done anything wrong.
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nickgusset Shizzlehurst 28 Jun 16 9.08am | |
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Originally posted by OldFella
Nick, every time I read your posts I genuinely feel sorry for you. So much bitterness and politics of envy, so many ad hominem comments. And a real failure to grasp that Labour under Corbyn will never make any mark or gain any mandate. SURELY you can see that? Virtually everyone else can. Disagree with your first 2 sentences completely.
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Willo South coast - west of Brighton. 28 Jun 16 9.09am | |
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Originally posted by nickgusset
I don't think Corbyn has actually done anything wrong. I was speaking to a party Affiliate/member last night who voted for Corbyn and he said that he and others he knows wouldn't vote for him again. Edited by Willo (28 Jun 2016 9.10am)
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Y Ddraig Goch In The Crowd 28 Jun 16 9.13am | |
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Amusing
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OknotOK Cockfosters, London 28 Jun 16 9.17am | |
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Originally posted by Willo
I was speaking to a party Affiliate/member last night who voted for Corbyn and he said that he and others he knows wouldn't vote for him again. Edited by Willo (28 Jun 2016 9.10am) He'll be in the minority. As it stands if there's a leadership election and Jeremy Corbyn can get enough MPs to vote for him then he will walk it. Again. And people - probably with some justification - will say that's just clueless people in a London bubble not listening and damaging the credibility and future of the Labour party. But he has a right to put those views forward and people have a right as members of the Labour party to vote for whatever leader they want. I think it has become a self-fulfilling prophecy. Had Jeremy Corbyn not been viciously attacked by the media from the outset there is a chance he could have built up some form of positive relationship with the electorate. The local elections were not particularly poor and the by-elections held so far have actually shown increases in votes/%. The problem is he doesn't fit the mould for a conventional modern politician. He's not media savvy. And he lacks charisma. He is also approaching the leadership of the Labour party rather like a member of the SWP (or at least his close advisers and supporters are) with purges and closing down of all dissent. I do however think it is very amusing that Jeremy Corbyn and his supporters call continually for unity and no backbiting for Labour MPs, when Jeremy Corbyn and his supporters have made their entire careers on dissenting and backbiting and showing no unity to the Labour leadership.
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