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 cryrst  The garden of England 12 Nov 20 10.17pm |
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Originally posted by croydon proud
No, it wasn"t, just one of your left backs-maybe on the subs bench! Not left at all. Centre or right but never left.
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Mapletree  Croydon 12 Nov 20 10.21pm |
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Originally posted by Stirlingsays
You could set up a peanut sandwich for all it matters. If you're going to talk bull don't complain when you get sh1t for it. As you know I did not talk bull, I simply quoted a government minister. Every country is subject to international laws or there could be no trade. We made multi millions on international arbitration. One example would be the UN Convention On The Law Of The Sea. Not every country has signed it of course, to the particular benefit of Colombia. Look up the San Jose which was one of our cases.
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| Stirlingsays 12 Nov 20 10.29pm |
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Originally posted by Mapletree
As you know I did not talk bull, I simply quoted a government minister. Every country is subject to international laws or there could be no trade. We made multi millions on international arbitration. One example would be the UN Convention On The Law Of The Sea. Not every country has signed it of course, to the particular benefit of Colombia. Look up the San Jose which was one of our cases.
I have already answered this over several posts.... These are laws a government like the UK decide to uphold or in a rare case break if they wish. The UK government is only answerable to parliament. As I previously stated other EU countries have broken EU laws and no doubt will do so again. The problem is the disingenuous like to make it seem that there is some controlling body who can decide what governments do when there isn't.
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| Mapletree Croydon 12 Nov 20 10.48pm |
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Originally posted by Stirlingsays
I have already answered this over several posts.... These are laws a government like the UK decide to uphold or in a rare case break if they wish. The UK government is only answerable to parliament. As I previously stated other EU countries have broken EU laws and no doubt will do so again. The problem is the disingenuous like to make it seem that there is some controlling body who can decide what governments do when there isn't.
Ah, I see what you did there, wet like the San Jose. A galleon on the sea bed worth $17 bn I believe No, if a law has been entered into and is breached, the relevant Court will determine the sanction. Were a Government to override such sanction that country would immediately become a pariah and most international trade be jeopardised. For that reason every country, however reluctantly, eventually bows to the ruling of the Court in almost every case. Such a simple concept really.
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| BlueJay UK 12 Nov 20 10.48pm |
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Originally posted by SW19 CPFC
Completely pointless attempting to debate with a conspiracy nut. Let alone a QAnon’er Better to let them spin themselves into a web of depression, fantasy and anxiety as one by one all the ‘things that are 100% going to happen, it’s a plan, see’ don’t happen. That way they will just stagnate into a puddle of their own paranoia, before rapidly evaporating into insignificance. You're right. What's sad though is that Trump himself knows the score. 'I love the poorly educated', 'What you're seeing and what you're reading is not what's happening', 'fake news', 'I could stand in the middle of Fifth Avenue and shoot somebody and not lose any voters'. And now his repeatedly retweeting provable nonsense relating to fraud. He knows he has some wrapped around his little finger and that his conjured reality becomes theirs, but by God is it pitiful to see people stuck in these twitter and facebook echo chambers highlighting nonsense they think means something profound. He's knowingly led his supporters to fantasy land, and even on his way out of the door he's getting them to empty their pockets (into his much more than any 'election defence fund') [Link] with messages that attack his own supporters [Tweet Link] . At least where Trump does have a detachment from 'truth' in favour of his own reality, it's consistently to his personal benefit. All his supporters get in return is feels over reals.
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| Mapletree Croydon 12 Nov 20 10.53pm |
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Originally posted by Stirlingsays
I have already answered this over several posts.... These are laws a government like the UK decide to uphold or in a rare case break if they wish. The UK government is only answerable to parliament. As I previously stated other EU countries have broken EU laws and no doubt will do so again. The problem is the disingenuous like to make it seem that there is some controlling body who can decide what governments do when there isn't.
When a stable practice develops among a sufficiently broad number of states, and when a large number of them view the practice as legally binding, it becomes recognized as a binding principle of international law. Ius Cogens norms are con- sidered the most fundamental principles of customary international law, from which derogation is not ever allowed. While no single authoritative list of such norms exist, some examples include prohibitions against aggressive war and crimes against humanity.
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| BlueJay UK 12 Nov 20 10.54pm |
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Originally posted by jeeagles
All this talk about the vote counting is a distraction. Biden's won and yet people still aren't talking about his policies. Both ran pretty bad campaigns in my opinion. For the Democrats, if Trump is such a tyrant, how did you barely beat him? For the republicans, how did you manage to lose to someone who barely campaigned. Seems very much like the May/Corbyn s*** show of 2017. It's a shame they are stuck in this punch and Judy nonsense rather than implementing ideas that might help people. A fair summation. Nowadays the options on offer are so poor that people most often vote against, rather than for. As such policy is an afterthought. It doesn't help that so few States are even relevant during the election. Scrap the electoral college, then the whole country is in play and maybe they'll finally get to push meaningful policy rather than 'at least I'm not that guy'.
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croydon proud  Any european country i fancy! 12 Nov 20 10.57pm |
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Originally posted by jeeagles
There's a few issues with that. Biden won't be inaugurated until 21st January 2021. We have already left the EU and the new trade agreement starts on the 1st January. If a deal is done before hand, then it's a mute point. The current withdrawal agreement already arguably breaches the peace process, and impacts on the sovereignty of another nation. With all the issues the EU had on its other boarders they won't want to open that can of worms. Then, when it comes to trade, American and EU business aren't going to be happy if they can't sell their goods in Britain (70million customers) over an ideological argument with Ireland (3milliom customers). On the trade deal, i hear trump wasn"t happy his pal boris ran to smokin joe to congratulate him on his victory, so doubt he will want to help boris with a get out of jail trade deal. on the americans wanting to sell to 65 million in the uk, i think they would rather sell to 400 million in the eu, smokin"s favoured friends!
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| Mapletree Croydon 12 Nov 20 10.59pm |
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Originally posted by croydon proud
On the trade deal, i hear trump wasn"t happy his pal boris ran to smokin joe to congratulate him on his victory, so doubt he will want to help boris with a get out of jail trade deal. on the americans wanting to sell to 65 million in the uk, i think they would rather sell to 400 million in the eu, smokin"s favoured friends! I was on a conference with an international journalist based in the US yesterday. She was very clear that the UK is now of little interest to the US. The market is too small.
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| croydon proud Any european country i fancy! 12 Nov 20 11.00pm |
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Originally posted by cryrst
In a work environment and you know that! Been an elected member in parliament or congress is a work environment!
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| croydon proud Any european country i fancy! 12 Nov 20 11.01pm |
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Originally posted by cryrst
Not left at all. Centre or right but never left. If you need an agent.......
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| croydon proud Any european country i fancy! 12 Nov 20 11.05pm |
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Originally posted by Mapletree
I was on a conference with an international journalist based in the US yesterday. She was very clear that the UK is now of little interest to the US. The market is too small. Yes, why would you want to sell to 65 million when you could sell to nearly 400 million? Time will tell!
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