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Rudi Hedman Caterham 26 Sep 18 9.37pm
Originally posted by daven The club refer to block E as a singing section, which is fair enough. But the crux of the issue is that nowhere have the club said that it is a standing block because standing is against the rules of the stadium and the law. This whole affair will have not gone unnoticed in the F.A and I fear that if this results in more standing in the lower holmesdale the club will face punishment. Just like all those other clubs that haven’t I suppose. COYP
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Rudi Hedman

Caterham 26 Sep 18 9.37pm

Originally posted by daven

The club refer to block E as a singing section, which is fair enough. But the crux of the issue is that nowhere have the club said that it is a standing block because standing is against the rules of the stadium and the law.
This whole affair will have not gone unnoticed in the F.A and I fear that if this results in more standing in the lower holmesdale the club will face punishment.

Just like all those other clubs that haven’t I suppose.

COYP

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PZ Eagle Penzance 26 Sep 18 9.38pm
Originally posted by Rudi Hedman I think I’d take more notice of someone on the pitch than watching in Penzance on a stream and I think Parish does too. What an arrogant patronising post that is. So just because I live in Penzance negates 70 years of watching Palace does it? I was on the Holmesdale long before it became a stand, I had a season ticket in the Arfur for many years before I moved to Cornwall. When my mum was still alive I would travel up from Cornwall to stay with her and go to Selhurst Park. I've also taken in away games at Plymouth Argyle. I have produced facts that prove the HF do not do anything for our home record which has been poor for years. You are quite happy to praise someone who lives in Australia or the USA who agree with you but choose to be sarcastic about someone who lives in Penzance. I hope you are very comfortable about turning Palace fans against each other on here because you, more than anyone, has kept this thread going as your personal crusade. Conjunctivitis.com - A site for sore eyes.
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Penzance 26 Sep 18 9.38pm

Originally posted by Rudi Hedman

I think I’d take more notice of someone on the pitch than watching in Penzance on a stream and I think Parish does too.

What an arrogant patronising post that is. So just because I live in Penzance negates 70 years of watching Palace does it? I was on the Holmesdale long before it became a stand, I had a season ticket in the Arfur for many years before I moved to Cornwall. When my mum was still alive I would travel up from Cornwall to stay with her and go to Selhurst Park. I've also taken in away games at Plymouth Argyle.

I have produced facts that prove the HF do not do anything for our home record which has been poor for years.

You are quite happy to praise someone who lives in Australia or the USA who agree with you but choose to be sarcastic about someone who lives in Penzance.

I hope you are very comfortable about turning Palace fans against each other on here because you, more than anyone, has kept this thread going as your personal crusade.

Conjunctivitis.com - A site for sore eyes.

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Kant exeter 26 Sep 18 9.38pm
People who point to defeats to ‘prove’ that fans/atmosphere make no difference to results really are twerps. However bad the results have been, ‘but for’ the fans/atmosphere those results might have been even worse. And for the record, although I am potentially going to be turfed out of my seat it is nevertheless the correct decision and has my full backing and support. The club needs to act in the best interests of all CPFC stakeholders - not just the few in the blocks concerned.
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exeter 26 Sep 18 9.38pm

People who point to defeats to ‘prove’ that fans/atmosphere make no difference to results really are twerps. However bad the results have been, ‘but for’ the fans/atmosphere those results might have been even worse.

And for the record, although I am potentially going to be turfed out of my seat it is nevertheless the correct decision and has my full backing and support.

The club needs to act in the best interests of all CPFC stakeholders - not just the few in the blocks concerned.

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Rudi Hedman Caterham 26 Sep 18 9.41pm
Originally posted by Mstrobez That’s such a disingenuous statement to make. I’d say pretty much everyone supported the plans to enhance our atmosphere. What people have a problem with is going ahead with proposals without consent of the current seat holders. Although I’m sure you know that already, and that was just a way of attempting to discredit the people who don’t happen to share your personal view. Edited by Mstrobez (26 Sep 2018 9.35pm) They don’t need consent. The club can do what it likes. They’re going to liaise with them after making the decision rather than before. They’ve made the decision and are aware some won’t be happy. Or they could liaise before and not do it because of some against it. COYP
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Rudi Hedman

Caterham 26 Sep 18 9.41pm

Originally posted by Mstrobez

That’s such a disingenuous statement to make. I’d say pretty much everyone supported the plans to enhance our atmosphere.

What people have a problem with is going ahead with proposals without consent of the current seat holders.

Although I’m sure you know that already, and that was just a way of attempting to discredit the people who don’t happen to share your personal view.

Edited by Mstrobez (26 Sep 2018 9.35pm)

They don’t need consent. The club can do what it likes. They’re going to liaise with them after making the decision rather than before. They’ve made the decision and are aware some won’t be happy. Or they could liaise before and not do it because of some against it.

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AERO 26 Sep 18 9.44pm
Good post Kant
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26 Sep 18 9.44pm

Good post Kant

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PZ Eagle Penzance 26 Sep 18 9.44pm
Originally posted by Kant People who point to defeats to ‘prove’ that fans/atmosphere make no difference to results really are twerps. However bad the results have been, ‘but for’ the fans/atmosphere those results might have been even worse. And for the record, although I am potentially going to be turfed out of my seat it is nevertheless the correct decision and has my full backing and support. The club needs to act in the best interests of all CPFC stakeholders - not just the few in the blocks concerned. Well you've got the right user name that's for sure. It's a relief to know that without the HF we'd have lost 0-8 to relegated Sunderland. Conjunctivitis.com - A site for sore eyes.
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PZ Eagle

Penzance 26 Sep 18 9.44pm

Originally posted by Kant

And for the record, although I am potentially going to be turfed out of my seat it is nevertheless the correct decision and has my full backing and support.

The club needs to act in the best interests of all CPFC stakeholders - not just the few in the blocks concerned.

Well you've got the right user name that's for sure. It's a relief to know that without the HF we'd have lost 0-8 to relegated Sunderland.

Conjunctivitis.com - A site for sore eyes.

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Rudi Hedman Caterham 26 Sep 18 9.44pm
Originally posted by PZ Eagle What an arrogant patronising post that is. So just because I live in Penzance negates 70 years of watching Palace does it? I was on the Holmesdale long before it became a stand, I had a season ticket in the Arfur for many years before I moved to Cornwall. When my mum was still alive I would travel up from Cornwall to stay with her and go to Selhurst Park. I've also taken in away games at Plymouth Argyle. I have produced facts that prove the HF do not do anything for our home record which has been poor for years. You are quite happy to praise someone who lives in Australia or the USA who agree with you but choose to be sarcastic about someone who lives in Penzance. I hope you are very comfortable about turning Palace fans against each other on here because you, more than anyone, has kept this thread going as your personal crusade. Not facts, just your stubborn opinion. The club are looking forward, I suggest you do too. It’ll help you get used to what is happening. And I’ve done nothing to turn fans against each other. The club handled this badly, not me. You’re determined with your vendetta against the HF, not me against block E, which is even more absurd if you don’t attend anymore. The club is moving into the future and not just trying to attract corporates but to maximise its appeal and strength. If you don’t want that over a minority having to move then good luck to you. Edited by Rudi Hedman (26 Sep 2018 9.56pm) COYP
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Rudi Hedman

Caterham 26 Sep 18 9.44pm

Originally posted by PZ Eagle

I have produced facts that prove the HF do not do anything for our home record which has been poor for years.

You are quite happy to praise someone who lives in Australia or the USA who agree with you but choose to be sarcastic about someone who lives in Penzance.

I hope you are very comfortable about turning Palace fans against each other on here because you, more than anyone, has kept this thread going as your personal crusade.

Not facts, just your stubborn opinion. The club are looking forward, I suggest you do too. It’ll help you get used to what is happening.

And I’ve done nothing to turn fans against each other. The club handled this badly, not me. You’re determined with your vendetta against the HF, not me against block E, which is even more absurd if you don’t attend anymore. The club is moving into the future and not just trying to attract corporates but to maximise its appeal and strength. If you don’t want that over a minority having to move then good luck to you.

Edited by Rudi Hedman (26 Sep 2018 9.56pm)

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spartakev2 Anerley 26 Sep 18 9.49pm
Originally posted by Goal Machine Really great news, I'm delighted. Well done CPFC. What a difference this will make. As per the club statement, there has been overwhelming support for this, the clubs needs to cater for the majority. No one is celebrating fans getting kicked out their seat, hopefully they are all well compensated for this - free season ticket next year and first choice seats once the new stand has been built is fair. People are celebrating how exciting it will be once its up and running. I for one will be back for my first season ticket in a while if I can get in the Holmesdale. And theres my problem. Someone who hasn't had a season ticket for a while wants to join the singing section in thd holmesdale, while someone who's renewed their ticket fir years will age to move. Never ever thought the club would give in to this. Shame.
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Anerley 26 Sep 18 9.49pm

Originally posted by Goal Machine

Really great news, I'm delighted. Well done CPFC. What a difference this will make. As per the club statement, there has been overwhelming support for this, the clubs needs to cater for the majority.

No one is celebrating fans getting kicked out their seat, hopefully they are all well compensated for this - free season ticket next year and first choice seats once the new stand has been built is fair. People are celebrating how exciting it will be once its up and running.

I for one will be back for my first season ticket in a while if I can get in the Holmesdale.

And theres my problem. Someone who hasn't had a season ticket for a while wants to join the singing section in thd holmesdale, while someone who's renewed their ticket fir years will age to move. Never ever thought the club would give in to this. Shame.

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Rudi Hedman Caterham 26 Sep 18 9.57pm
Originally posted by spartakev2 And theres my problem. Someone who hasn't had a season ticket for a while wants to join the singing section in thd holmesdale, while someone who's renewed their ticket fir years will age to move. Never ever thought the club would give in to this. Shame. He won’t get in the singing section and he only said Holmesdale, which he may get, just like any season. COYP
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Rudi Hedman

Caterham 26 Sep 18 9.57pm

Originally posted by spartakev2

He won’t get in the singing section and he only said Holmesdale, which he may get, just like any season.

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PZ Eagle Penzance 26 Sep 18 10.01pm
Originally posted by Rudi Hedman Not facts, just your stubborn opinion. The club are looking forward, I suggest you do too. It’ll help you get used to what is happening. Wrong they are documented FACTS. Just 7 out of 19 home games last season with the HF. And your opinion is just as stubborn, if not worse than mine because I don't want long standing fans kicked out of their seats just because a 100 or so fans threw a strop about not getting what they wanted this season. People have said that Arsenal is like a library yet they regularly finish in the top six so proving atmosphere is not the panacea for success you seem to think it is. Conjunctivitis.com - A site for sore eyes.
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Penzance 26 Sep 18 10.01pm

Originally posted by Rudi Hedman

Not facts, just your stubborn opinion. The club are looking forward, I suggest you do too. It’ll help you get used to what is happening.

Wrong they are documented FACTS. Just 7 out of 19 home games last season with the HF. And your opinion is just as stubborn, if not worse than mine because I don't want long standing fans kicked out of their seats just because a 100 or so fans threw a strop about not getting what they wanted this season. People have said that Arsenal is like a library yet they regularly finish in the top six so proving atmosphere is not the panacea for success you seem to think it is.

Conjunctivitis.com - A site for sore eyes.

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Palace Loyal New Addington 26 Sep 18 10.02pm
Glad at last this has been sorted out, I no not everyone will be happy, but it's for the best of our club. The HF have out grown block B, which holds around 100 They say they have at least 80 more wanting to join them So that's 180 lads maybe more, who will make the atmosphere something special behind the goal, with their displays & flags, even the PSG Ultras know who they are!!! I hope any season ticket holder in block E is given a huge discount on their season ticket to move if they don't want to say in the singing section & given priority in seats in the new stand when built, but the HF cant wait 5 years or so for the stand to be built, while they are stuck in block B, with just 100 seats The club has realized the atmosphere is not the same without the HF & if we are all honest which ever side of the fence you sit on, no HF no atmosphere, it's a library just like most Premiership grounds, going forward I think this best solution I don't often post on here & I'm sure will get loads grief for it, but we are all Palace fans & lets all stick together & I hope the HF will be back soon creating our famous atmosphere
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New Addington 26 Sep 18 10.02pm

Glad at last this has been sorted out, I no not everyone will be happy, but it's for the best of our club.
The HF have out grown block B, which holds around 100
They say they have at least 80 more wanting to join them
So that's 180 lads maybe more, who will make the atmosphere something special behind the goal, with their displays & flags, even the PSG Ultras know who they are!!!
I hope any season ticket holder in block E is given a huge discount on their season ticket to move if they don't want to say in the singing section & given priority in seats in the new stand when built, but the HF cant wait 5 years or so for the stand to be built, while they are stuck in block B, with just 100 seats
The club has realized the atmosphere is not the same without the HF & if we are all honest which ever side of the fence you sit on, no HF no atmosphere, it's a library just like most Premiership grounds, going forward I think this best solution
I don't often post on here & I'm sure will get loads grief for it, but we are all Palace fans & lets all stick together & I hope the HF will be back soon creating our famous atmosphere

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charliehub newforest 26 Sep 18 10.03pm
Great news, and will encourage me to spend the hard earned going up to London, not easy working as a gardener 90 miles away. I grew up standing at the back of the Holmesdale, dodging lumps of concrete buzzed down on us by manure fans, singing our hearts out only for it to disappear into the clouds above. The HF are fantastic, but even more so is the fact we now have a roof! Never assume what is, will be forever, everything changes, all of the time. I'm so grateful that we have a group of young guys passionate, noisy and lively, usually well behaved, thoughtful and willing to make a noise about the worst excesses of our stars, and football in general. Puts some of those stuck up suburban twerps in their places also! South London and Proud! Rant over. Oh, one more thing, the statement doesn't actually say its Block E? It may be D, or C, or up top...ha!
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newforest 26 Sep 18 10.03pm

Great news, and will encourage me to spend the hard earned going up to London, not easy working as a gardener 90 miles away. I grew up standing at the back of the Holmesdale, dodging lumps of concrete buzzed down on us by manure fans, singing our hearts out only for it to disappear into the clouds above. The HF are fantastic, but even more so is the fact we now have a roof! Never assume what is, will be forever, everything changes, all of the time. I'm so grateful that we have a group of young guys passionate, noisy and lively, usually well behaved, thoughtful and willing to make a noise about the worst excesses of our stars, and football in general. Puts some of those stuck up suburban twerps in their places also! South London and Proud! Rant over.

Oh, one more thing, the statement doesn't actually say its Block E? It may be D, or C, or up top...ha!

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