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chris123 hove actually 26 Apr 19 10.12pm | |
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Originally posted by Wisbech Eagle
You are completely wrong. I have understood the way British democracy works for a very long time and have been a steadfast opponent of referendums for decades. Interestingly I heard a Radio 4 programme recently in which a "Leave" voter, who has since taken up studying a University course on politics, took exactly the same line as me, and said his studies had not changed his views on the EU but that the only way to handle it is via Parliament. If we had decided to stay in but Parliament, in the light of subsequent events and their collective wisdom, decided that we needed to leave then I would support it. That's THEIR job. It isn't ours. Their job is to hold the Government to account, make laws and represent us. We told them what to do and they haven't done it.
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ASCPFC Pro-Cathedral/caravan park 26 Apr 19 10.20pm | |
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Originally posted by chris123
Their job is to hold the Government to account, make laws and represent us. We told them what to do and they haven't done it. Usually they just don't ask. But always they do what suits them best.
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Wisbech Eagle Truro Cornwall 26 Apr 19 10.49pm | |
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Originally posted by Hrolf The Ganger
You know you would. They aren't "ignoring" the referendum as any referendum is actually legally pointless in the UK. The big mistake was giving people the impression that because both major parties said they would respect it that meant they couldn't change their minds. Any referendum in the UK can only ever be advisory. If by some very unlikely disaster UKIP ever won a majority I would weep in despair and work hard to ensure they were replaced asap but I most certainly would not ignore them.
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Wisbech Eagle Truro Cornwall 26 Apr 19 10.57pm | |
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Originally posted by chris123
Their job is to hold the Government to account, make laws and represent us. We told them what to do and they haven't done it. That is a typical misunderstanding of the role of an MP. They aren't delegates who go to Parliament to do what we have told them. They are representatives whose job it is to use their collective wisdom to reach decisions which they believe are in our best interests. Our job is to choose who we want to represent us. That's all. If they don't meet our expectations then we choose another the next time.
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Hrolf The Ganger 26 Apr 19 11.09pm | |
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Originally posted by Wisbech Eagle
They aren't "ignoring" the referendum as any referendum is actually legally pointless in the UK. The big mistake was giving people the impression that because both major parties said they would respect it that meant they couldn't change their minds. Any referendum in the UK can only ever be advisory. If by some very unlikely disaster UKIP ever won a majority I would weep in despair and work hard to ensure they were replaced asap but I most certainly would not ignore them. Hiding behind technicalities again. Do you honestly believe that the government held a referendum intending to ignore the result? None of this conversation would be taking place if Remain had won.
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Stirlingsays 27 Apr 19 4.07am | |
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dannyboy1978 27 Apr 19 7.11am | |
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Originally posted by Wisbech Eagle
That is a typical misunderstanding of the role of an MP. They aren't delegates who go to Parliament to do what we have told them. They are representatives whose job it is to use their collective wisdom to reach decisions which they believe are in our best interests. Our job is to choose who we want to represent us. That's all. If they don't meet our expectations then we choose another the next time. I keep hearing this dribble. "Vote them out"
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Spiderman Horsham 27 Apr 19 8.22am | |
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Originally posted by Wisbech Eagle
I am and there is always a very big attendance there on a Saturday for their prayers etc. It is always referred to locally as "the Mosque", even though it provides other services than the strictly religious. Cornwall is 95.7% "white"! I think that an appalling statement. The colour of an individual's skin matters not a thing. How do you classify a Japanese, who has very white skin but is ethnically from Asia. My own wife is originally from Asia, and has a slightly browner skin than me. So what? Almost all Eastern Europeans, of whom there are many in Cornwall, have white skins, but most are immigrants, some Muslim. Do you mean Friday prayers? Having lived in a muslim country for 3 years Friday was the prayer day
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Spiderman Horsham 27 Apr 19 8.25am | |
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Originally posted by Pussay Patrol
Just asking you to substantiate what you say. It must come from somewhere? Explain how you conclude Muslims are 'pouring' into the country Here we go again! Funny how you never ask fellow Remainers to substantiate statements. Whenever I have, very rarely get a reply
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ChrisGC Wantage 27 Apr 19 8.28am | |
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Of the 1712 (and rising) pages, how many do you think are just Pussay Patrol and Wisbech Eagle talking complete bollox? I reckon you could condense it down to about 1200.
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Pussay Patrol 27 Apr 19 8.29am | |
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Originally posted by Wisbech Eagle
They aren't "ignoring" the referendum as any referendum is actually legally pointless in the UK. The big mistake was giving people the impression that because both major parties said they would respect it that meant they couldn't change their minds. Any referendum in the UK can only ever be advisory. If by some very unlikely disaster UKIP ever won a majority I would weep in despair and work hard to ensure they were replaced asap but I most certainly would not ignore them. Yes, it's clearly mentioned in the white paper Attachment: FB_IMG_1554112706610.jpg (71.56Kb)
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chris123 hove actually 27 Apr 19 8.30am | |
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Originally posted by Wisbech Eagle
That is a typical misunderstanding of the role of an MP. They aren't delegates who go to Parliament to do what we have told them. They are representatives whose job it is to use their collective wisdom to reach decisions which they believe are in our best interests. Our job is to choose who we want to represent us. That's all. If they don't meet our expectations then we choose another the next time. That is a typical misunderstanding of the role of an MP being whipped to vote by their party, not collective wisdom.
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