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Stirlingsays 26 Apr 19 4.36pm
Originally posted by jeeagles The most concerning thing about Tommy Robinson is that he never actually says anything racist. He’s very smart and an excellent communicator. His agenda is obviously anti Muslim and his portral of the religion isn’t balanced. Yep, I think it's accurate to say that Robinson is very anti Islamic. He thinks that Islam is totally incompatible with western values and that while he does sit down and discuss differences with Islamic reformers he views them as on the losing side in Islam. I'm a little more optimistic than he is....but the realist in me feels he might be right. Originally posted by jeeagles Unfortunately, the lefties are so quick to attack anyone (there’s at least one on this thread) and so vocal it’s almost impossible to have a reasoned debate about people about these issues. There’s traits that people from other cultures have that are clearly unacceptable in Britain. For instance, and Italian yesterday took my reserved table in a pub and then refused to move. Europeans have a different attitude to this sort of thing that us. When in Rome, what he did might have been fine, but he wasn’t in Rome. It’s a small example, but all these small cultural clashes add up to result in division. We need people to be able to politely explain why some actions in the UK are considered just not cricket. Well, if there is Brexit the EU percentage of immigrants will head downwards and then it'll be a focus upon the non EU element. With AI automation coming in our politicians really need to think longer term. They should be adopting 'working migrant' policies like Japan and not issuing out naturalisations to foreigners who then produce children with identity issues creating the victimisation culture we are experiencing...which then leads to anti meritocratic policies like affirmative action....all encouraged by most of the current politically active left. Edited by Stirlingsays (26 Apr 2019 4.38pm) 'Who are you and how did you get in here? I'm a locksmith. And, I'm a locksmith.' (Leslie Nielsen)
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26 Apr 19 4.36pm

Originally posted by jeeagles

The most concerning thing about Tommy Robinson is that he never actually says anything racist. He’s very smart and an excellent communicator. His agenda is obviously anti Muslim and his portral of the religion isn’t balanced.

Yep, I think it's accurate to say that Robinson is very anti Islamic.

He thinks that Islam is totally incompatible with western values and that while he does sit down and discuss differences with Islamic reformers he views them as on the losing side in Islam.

I'm a little more optimistic than he is....but the realist in me feels he might be right.

Originally posted by jeeagles

Unfortunately, the lefties are so quick to attack anyone (there’s at least one on this thread) and so vocal it’s almost impossible to have a reasoned debate about people about these issues.

There’s traits that people from other cultures have that are clearly unacceptable in Britain. For instance, and Italian yesterday took my reserved table in a pub and then refused to move. Europeans have a different attitude to this sort of thing that us. When in Rome, what he did might have been fine, but he wasn’t in Rome. It’s a small example, but all these small cultural clashes add up to result in division. We need people to be able to politely explain why some actions in the UK are considered just not cricket.

Well, if there is Brexit the EU percentage of immigrants will head downwards and then it'll be a focus upon the non EU element.

With AI automation coming in our politicians really need to think longer term. They should be adopting 'working migrant' policies like Japan and not issuing out naturalisations to foreigners who then produce children with identity issues creating the victimisation culture we are experiencing...which then leads to anti meritocratic policies like affirmative action....all encouraged by most of the current politically active left.

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Yes,happy to draw a line in the sand here. I will just have to take what you say with a pinch of salt since you cannot substantiate your comments with facts

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dannyboy1978 26 Apr 19 4.55pm
Originally posted by Pussay Patrol It's like taking that one incident and saying all Italians are rude and they will swarm into the UK to steal all our restaurant tables unless we take action now. Splash it across the front page of the tabloids A bit like calling brexitiers gammons! Works both ways pal
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26 Apr 19 4.55pm

Originally posted by Pussay Patrol

It's like taking that one incident and saying all Italians are rude and they will swarm into the UK to steal all our restaurant tables unless we take action now. Splash it across the front page of the tabloids

A bit like calling brexitiers gammons!
Works both ways pal

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W12 26 Apr 19 4.57pm
Originally posted by Pussay Patrol It's like taking that one incident and saying all Italians are rude and they will swarm into the UK to steal all our restaurant tables unless we take action now. Splash it across the front page of the tabloids No it isn't because if Islam was about stealing tables then we wouldn't be having this discussion. I don't see many Italians strapping bombs to themselves or proposing to kill people who are not italian, gays, jews, treat women as property, stone people or cuts their heads/hands off etc. Can you not see a difference FFS? As I said before, how many terrorist incidents to we need before you consider this a real problem? At the moment we have a group of about 4% of people responsible for 85% of terrorism.
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W12 26 Apr 19 4.57pm

Originally posted by Pussay Patrol

No it isn't because if Islam was about stealing tables then we wouldn't be having this discussion. I don't see many Italians strapping bombs to themselves or proposing to kill people who are not italian, gays, jews, treat women as property, stone people or cuts their heads/hands off etc.

Can you not see a difference FFS?

As I said before, how many terrorist incidents to we need before you consider this a real problem? At the moment we have a group of about 4% of people responsible for 85% of terrorism.

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cpfc_chap koh samui 26 Apr 19 5.03pm
Originally posted by Pussay Patrol OK. I Did a google search. Nothing about Muslims pouring in Luckily the EU help fund a wall between Turkey and Syria to stop this. Similar to the wall Trump wants to complete!
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koh samui 26 Apr 19 5.03pm

Originally posted by Pussay Patrol

OK. I Did a google search. Nothing about Muslims pouring in

Luckily the EU help fund a wall between Turkey and Syria to stop this. Similar to the wall Trump wants to complete!

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jeeagles 26 Apr 19 5.27pm
Originally posted by Pussay Patrol It's like taking that one incident and saying all Italians are rude and they will swarm into the UK to steal all our restaurant tables unless we take action now. Splash it across the front page of the tabloids And if to prove point. This is how you end up with disproportionate and irrational response to minor issues from both the left and the right. A few years ago I was in Budapest during the Syrian migrant crisis. One side where calling it an invasion of spongers, the other were calling it a refuge crises. In reality, there were about 50 people trying to board trains. The numbers got bigger each side the right responded to the left and visa versa.
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26 Apr 19 5.27pm

Originally posted by Pussay Patrol

And if to prove point. This is how you end up with disproportionate and irrational response to minor issues from both the left and the right.

A few years ago I was in Budapest during the Syrian migrant crisis. One side where calling it an invasion of spongers, the other were calling it a refuge crises.

In reality, there were about 50 people trying to board trains. The numbers got bigger each side the right responded to the left and visa versa.

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since1953 Maidenhead 26 Apr 19 5.36pm
It has been suggested that the Euro elections will be a kind of re-run of the referendum.The way things look at the moment with the main parties in complete disarray over Brexit, the indicators are that not only will the leavers win by a huge margin but the remain camp will be totally humiliated.Then what?
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Maidenhead 26 Apr 19 5.36pm

It has been suggested that the Euro elections will be a kind of re-run of the referendum.The way things look at the moment with the main parties in complete disarray over Brexit, the indicators are that not only will the leavers win by a huge margin but the remain camp will be totally humiliated.Then what?

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becky over the moon 26 Apr 19 6.13pm
Originally posted by since1953 It has been suggested that the Euro elections will be a kind of re-run of the referendum.The way things look at the moment with the main parties in complete disarray over Brexit, the indicators are that not only will the leavers win by a huge margin but the remain camp will be totally humiliated.Then what? A few MP's will be able to stand upin Parliament and say 'I told you so' and the rest will be trying to find ways to ignore it and carry on as usual, I expect. A stairway to Heaven and a Highway to Hell give some indication of expected traffic numbers
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over the moon 26 Apr 19 6.13pm

Originally posted by since1953

A few MP's will be able to stand upin Parliament and say 'I told you so' and the rest will be trying to find ways to ignore it and carry on as usual, I expect.

A stairway to Heaven and a Highway to Hell give some indication of expected traffic numbers

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Wisbech Eagle Truro Cornwall 26 Apr 19 6.19pm
Originally posted by Stirlingsays According to the last census Cornwall is 95.7 percent white. It is roughly 1 percent Asian. As for a Mosque.....Aren't you talking about the 'Cornwall Islamic Community Centre'? I am and there is always a very big attendance there on a Saturday for their prayers etc. It is always referred to locally as "the Mosque", even though it provides other services than the strictly religious. Cornwall is 95.7% "white"! I think that an appalling statement. The colour of an individual's skin matters not a thing. How do you classify a Japanese, who has very white skin but is ethnically from Asia. My own wife is originally from Asia, and has a slightly browner skin than me. So what? Almost all Eastern Europeans, of whom there are many in Cornwall, have white skins, but most are immigrants, some Muslim. For the avoidance of doubt any comments in response to a previous post are directed to its ideas and not at any, or all, posters personally.
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Truro Cornwall 26 Apr 19 6.19pm

Originally posted by Stirlingsays

According to the last census Cornwall is 95.7 percent white. It is roughly 1 percent Asian.

As for a Mosque.....Aren't you talking about the 'Cornwall Islamic Community Centre'?

I am and there is always a very big attendance there on a Saturday for their prayers etc. It is always referred to locally as "the Mosque", even though it provides other services than the strictly religious.

Cornwall is 95.7% "white"! I think that an appalling statement. The colour of an individual's skin matters not a thing. How do you classify a Japanese, who has very white skin but is ethnically from Asia. My own wife is originally from Asia, and has a slightly browner skin than me. So what? Almost all Eastern Europeans, of whom there are many in Cornwall, have white skins, but most are immigrants, some Muslim.

For the avoidance of doubt any comments in response to a previous post are directed to its ideas and not at any, or all, posters personally.

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Stirlingsays 26 Apr 19 6.21pm
Originally posted by becky A few MP's will be able to stand upin Parliament and say 'I told you so' and the rest will be trying to find ways to ignore it and carry on as usual, I expect. It'll be a nice explicit rebuke to a house that is supposed to be....ultimately a representative institution. 'Who are you and how did you get in here? I'm a locksmith. And, I'm a locksmith.' (Leslie Nielsen)
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26 Apr 19 6.21pm

Originally posted by becky

A few MP's will be able to stand upin Parliament and say 'I told you so' and the rest will be trying to find ways to ignore it and carry on as usual, I expect.

It'll be a nice explicit rebuke to a house that is supposed to be....ultimately a representative institution.

'Who are you and how did you get in here? I'm a locksmith. And, I'm a locksmith.' (Leslie Nielsen)

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Stirlingsays 26 Apr 19 6.27pm
Originally posted by Wisbech Eagle I am and there is always a very big attendance there on a Saturday for their prayers etc. It is always referred to locally as "the Mosque", even though it provides other services than the strictly religious. Cornwall is 95.7% "white"! I think that an appalling statement. The colour of an individual's skin matters not a thing. How do you classify a Japanese, who has very white skin but is ethnically from Asia. My own wife is originally from Asia, and has a slightly browner skin than me. So what? Almost all Eastern Europeans, of whom there are many in Cornwall, have white skins, but most are immigrants, some Muslim. An 'appalling statement'? It's from the census, like I stated. Different types of Asian are accounted for. By calling it a Mosque you were happy to give that impression when I had to research it to once again confirm that the truth isn't something you're that concerned with.....Just like you were happy for the authorities to cover up the Islamic rape gangs. If you find reality appalling then perhaps you shouldn't be moving to such a non diverse area.....An area that has been ethnically non diverse since Britain was created. You are the one that moved to a non diverse area not me and you're the one who claims to love diversity. Asian wife eh....Like I thought, you took what you wanted and then surprise surprise you end up in one of the least diverse and nicest areas in the country. Then you give it large about others being 'racist'. Judge people not by their words, but by their deeds. Edited by Stirlingsays (26 Apr 2019 6.30pm) 'Who are you and how did you get in here? I'm a locksmith. And, I'm a locksmith.' (Leslie Nielsen)
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26 Apr 19 6.27pm

Originally posted by Wisbech Eagle

Cornwall is 95.7% "white"! I think that an appalling statement. The colour of an individual's skin matters not a thing. How do you classify a Japanese, who has very white skin but is ethnically from Asia. My own wife is originally from Asia, and has a slightly browner skin than me. So what? Almost all Eastern Europeans, of whom there are many in Cornwall, have white skins, but most are immigrants, some Muslim.

An 'appalling statement'? It's from the census, like I stated. Different types of Asian are accounted for.

By calling it a Mosque you were happy to give that impression when I had to research it to once again confirm that the truth isn't something you're that concerned with.....Just like you were happy for the authorities to cover up the Islamic rape gangs.

If you find reality appalling then perhaps you shouldn't be moving to such a non diverse area.....An area that has been ethnically non diverse since Britain was created.

You are the one that moved to a non diverse area not me and you're the one who claims to love diversity.

Asian wife eh....Like I thought, you took what you wanted and then surprise surprise you end up in one of the least diverse and nicest areas in the country.

Then you give it large about others being 'racist'.

Judge people not by their words, but by their deeds.

Edited by Stirlingsays (26 Apr 2019 6.30pm)

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