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Stirlingsays Flag 08 Jun 21 10.38pm Send a Private Message to Stirlingsays Holmesdale Online Elite Member Add Stirlingsays as a friend

Originally posted by Matov

Southgate is an utter tosser. And those players only care about their sponsorship endorsements. Trust me, if one of those players refused to kneel, they would never play for England again.

You love them kneeling. I loathe it. And neither of us are ever going to change our minds with this divide in football now replicating what is going on in so many aspects of our lives.

This is now truly the new normal. C'est la Covid.

Seconded.

 


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DanH Flag SW2 08 Jun 21 10.43pm Send a Private Message to DanH Add DanH as a friend

Originally posted by Matov

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You may laugh but I do find it staggering how narrow minded some of you are.

I was captain of my uni football first team in my last year just over a decade a go and after one game we realised we had 11 different nationalities in the starting line up (Eritrea nailing the niche spot). But that team I played in still had pints in the clubhouse/pub after and still drank cans on the train back from away games having the same stupid laddy football banter that every side I’ve ever played for has. That was a collection of people from all over the world but we still got on brilliantly and team spirit was up there in any side I’ve played in.

I find people with your outlook believe that everyone who looks different to you thinks differently too when it’s really quite the opposite. I have far more in common with my old teammates from Sweden, Ghana and Eritrea than I do with a lot of you old Brits on here. Generational difference is far greater than anything else.

 

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Mapletree Flag Croydon 08 Jun 21 10.46pm Send a Private Message to Mapletree Add Mapletree as a friend

Originally posted by Matov


Southgate is an utter tosser. And those players only care about their sponsorship endorsements. Trust me, if one of those players refused to kneel, they would never play for England again.

You love them kneeling. I loathe it. And neither of us are ever going to change our minds with this divide in football now replicating what is going on in so many aspects of our lives.

This is now truly the new normal. C'est la Covid.

I don’t trust you and you are wrong.

Nor do I love them kneeling. I respect their choice and believe what Southgate said. He isn’t a tosser. We know the family.

Edited by Mapletree (08 Jun 2021 10.47pm)

 

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Stirlingsays Flag 08 Jun 21 10.49pm Send a Private Message to Stirlingsays Holmesdale Online Elite Member Add Stirlingsays as a friend

Originally posted by DanH

Yours comes from an actual fear of difference though. You fear other cultures and those who aren’t ethnically similar to you. You fear them because you think they want to change and takeover everything you believe in. You see the world changing around you and you are scared because it doesn’t look the same as it did when you were a boy.

We don’t fear this. We embrace the difference and listen and learn from those who are different to us and realise that hell, you know what, we’re not so different after all. We’re all just trying to love, be happy, and make a living to support ourselves in our families. It doesn’t make a difference where you are from, what you look like, what language you speak or what religion you may be. We all have way more in common than anyone might think or take the time to try and understand.


You just ignore the actual statements and instead produce loads of hippy waffle.

Cool, you put your skirt on and put some flowers in your hair. You do you Castro.

 


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Stirlingsays Flag 08 Jun 21 10.50pm Send a Private Message to Stirlingsays Holmesdale Online Elite Member Add Stirlingsays as a friend

Originally posted by Mapletree

I don’t trust you and you are wrong.

Nor do I love them kneeling. I respect their choice and believe what Southgate said. He isn’t a tosser. We know the family.

Edited by Mapletree (08 Jun 2021 10.47pm)

Yeah he is a tosser, I realised it the moment he did that pizza advert and he's done nothing to show me otherwise since.

 


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Matov Flag 08 Jun 21 10.50pm Send a Private Message to Matov Add Matov as a friend

Originally posted by Mapletree

Nor do I love them kneeling. I respect their choice and believe what Southgate said. He isn’t a tosser. We know the family.

Edited by Mapletree (08 Jun 2021 10.47pm)

So let's say one refused to kneel. Or even worse, perhaps gave a visible indication that he considered the entire nonsense as being shameful. Would you respect his choice then?

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DanH Flag SW2 08 Jun 21 10.52pm Send a Private Message to DanH Add DanH as a friend

Originally posted by Stirlingsays


You just ignore the actual statements and instead produce loads of hippy waffle.

Cool, you put your skirt on and put some flowers in your hair. You do you Castro.

And you keep stocking up your bunker for when the ‘demographics’ mean you’re too scared to leave your house again.

 

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DanH Flag SW2 08 Jun 21 10.52pm Send a Private Message to DanH Add DanH as a friend

Originally posted by Matov

So let's say one refused to kneel. Or even worse, perhaps gave a visible indication that he considered the entire nonsense as being shameful. Would you respect his choice then?

D

Wilf has refused to kneel and we’re fully behind his reasons why.

 

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becky Flag over the moon 08 Jun 21 10.54pm Send a Private Message to becky Holmesdale Online Elite Member Add becky as a friend

Originally posted by Teddy Eagle


How did footballers become inspirational social arbiters? Until recently they were overpaid boneheads whose interests were collecting Bentleys and Cristal bottles and spit roasting each other’s groupies - now they’re the social conscience of the nation.

By the same means that second & third rate actors have all suddenly become experts on saving humanity and the planet, and have no reservations in telling the rest of us how to do it.

 


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Stirlingsays Flag 08 Jun 21 10.54pm Send a Private Message to Stirlingsays Holmesdale Online Elite Member Add Stirlingsays as a friend

Originally posted by DanH

And you keep stocking up your bunker for when the ‘demographics’ mean you’re too scared to leave your house again.

Na, I'll move....but it won't be to poncy Essex.

 


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Matov Flag 08 Jun 21 10.54pm Send a Private Message to Matov Add Matov as a friend

Originally posted by DanH

I have far more in common with my old teammates from Sweden, Ghana and Eritrea than I do with a lot of you old Brits on here. Generational difference is far greater than anything else.

In Eritrea, UNICEF report that 88.7% of women have suffered female genital mutilation.

It's an important part of the nation's culture. Have that in common did you? Or did you not discuss it? Did it not really matter that much?

 


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DanH Flag SW2 08 Jun 21 10.58pm Send a Private Message to DanH Add DanH as a friend

Originally posted by Matov

In Eritrea, UNICEF report that 88.7% of women have suffered female genital mutilation.

It's an important part of the nation's culture. Have that in common did you? Or did you not discuss it? Did it not really matter that much?

We were 21 year old kids playing football. Funnily enough it didn’t come up in the changing rooms.

 

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