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 Hrolf The Ganger  17 Jun 24 10.05pm |
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Originally posted by Wisbech Eagle
Are you totally stupid? I already said that'ethnicity' was a broad, almost meaningless term. Even your link includes genetic heritage as one definition.
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| Hrolf The Ganger 17 Jun 24 10.06pm |
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Originally posted by Wisbech Eagle
What others see you as is an irrelevance! They can think whatever they like, that’s up to them. We all define our ethnicity for ourselves, depending on what group we believe we fit and that depends on culture. It’s not imposed on us by others. We don’t sit exams or be interviewed. Or take DNA tests. I already said that people can identify as whatever they like. Try reading the posts. What you think is irrelevant. Consider that if you can. Edited by Hrolf The Ganger (17 Jun 2024 10.08pm)
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| Stirlingsays Online 17 Jun 24 10.12pm |
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Personally I think we all know his ethnic group is Troll.
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| SW19 CPFC Addiscombe West 17 Jun 24 10.21pm |
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Actually, they did.
Did you know? 98.0000001% of people are morons. |
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Teddy Eagle  17 Jun 24 10.27pm |
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Originally posted by Wisbech Eagle
Undoubtedly true. Your point being? That the probability of those already happy with their own culture considering themselves English or British is slight.
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| Wisbech Eagle Truro Cornwall 17 Jun 24 10.30pm |
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Originally posted by Hrolf The Ganger
Are you totally stupid? I already said that'ethnicity' was a broad, almost meaningless term. Even your link includes genetic heritage as one definition. I’ll ignore the rudeness. What you said was wrong. It isn’t a broad, meaningless term! You just want it to be! The first lines in the link say it very well:- “An ethnicity or ethnic group is a group of people who identify with each other on the basis of perceived shared attributes that distinguish them from other groups. Those attributes can include a common nation of origin, or common sets of ancestry, traditions, language, history, society, religion, or social treatment.” Later it says:- “Ethnicity may be construed as an inherited or societally imposed construct. Ethnic membership tends to be defined by a shared cultural heritage, ancestry, origin myth, history, homeland, language, dialect, religion, mythology, folklore, ritual, cuisine, dressing style, art, or physical appearance. Ethnic groups may share a narrow or broad spectrum of genetic ancestry, depending on group identification, with some groups having mixed genetic ancestry.” The only reference to genetics being that ethic groups may share either broad or narrow genetic ancestry. Which is precisely what I have been saying. Genetics are no guide to ethnicity. They may share some genetics, either broad or narrow. But may not as some have a mixed genetic ancestry.
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| Wisbech Eagle Truro Cornwall 17 Jun 24 10.31pm |
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Originally posted by Teddy Eagle
That the probability of those already happy with their own culture considering themselves English or British is slight. Have I suggested otherwise?
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| Teddy Eagle 17 Jun 24 10.35pm |
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Originally posted by Wisbech Eagle
Have I suggested otherwise? It was in answer to "Are they English? If not, what do you think they are?”
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| Stirlingsays Online 17 Jun 24 10.48pm |
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Originally posted by SW19 CPFC
Actually, they did. 100 percent genes? Who?
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| Wisbech Eagle Truro Cornwall 17 Jun 24 11.01pm |
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Originally posted by Teddy Eagle
It was in answer to "Are they English? If not, what do you think they are?” How come? It was in response to:- “You are simply wrong. Ethnicity is solely defined by individuals themselves and determined by the culture they accept as the one they belong to.”
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HKOwen  Hong Kong 17 Jun 24 11.05pm |
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Where we are today, English is more or less a way to distinguish British who are not Scottish, Welsh or Irish. Being a British citizen would be a prerequisite of being English. This then goes on ad nauseam where you had remoaners who defined themselves as " citizens of Europe " In broad terms "English " would be a cultural rather than legal description.
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| Teddy Eagle 17 Jun 24 11.07pm |
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Originally posted by Wisbech Eagle
How come? It was in response to:- “You are simply wrong. Ethnicity is solely defined by individuals themselves and determined by the culture they accept as the one they belong to.” Then treat it as an answer to one observation and one question.
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