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Originally posted by berlinpalace
Agree with this 100% went to ground really easily.
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Originally posted by Rachid Rachid Rachid
Agree with this 100% went to ground really easily. . . . & Ayew doesn't?
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Referees are under greater pressure than ever to make decisions in favour of the big television money earners of the League. This is not to say that all referees are corrupt but a select few can be relied upon to ensure the “right” result. It is my opinion that former head of PGMOL, Mike Riley, promoted mainly those referees based within 75 miles of his Sheffield home to keep a close eye on their compliance with his directives. Two that have been revealed by whistleblowers and aired on radio are that referees must follow the directions of VAR and that where possible not to send off the high profile players because those are the ones television viewers want to see. Jordan Ayew is definitely not one of these. Whether yesterday’s referee fell into this category one can only speculate. There is also, however, the issue of incompetence. If you pick 18 out of 22 referees from such a small area you are inevitably going to pick up quite a bit of dross. We now have only two referees based south of Birmingham, that is more than half the population of England, professional football clubs ( the National League North is supplemented by southern teams to make up numbers) and 10 of 20 Premier League sides. There are no referees from the London area with Tim Robinson of West Sussex being the nearest representative. If Durham and Fylde can have 6 of the 20 Select Group 2 referees the chances of us getting a fair, nationally balanced and neutral referees panel is a long way off.
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Just to add insult to injury, Palace have been fined £25k for indiscipline . . . [Link]
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Originally posted by Norbury Old Git
Referees are under greater pressure than ever to make decisions in favour of the big television money earners of the League. This is not to say that all referees are corrupt but a select few can be relied upon to ensure the “right” result. It is my opinion that former head of PGMOL, Mike Riley, promoted mainly those referees based within 75 miles of his Sheffield home to keep a close eye on their compliance with his directives. Two that have been revealed by whistleblowers and aired on radio are that referees must follow the directions of VAR and that where possible not to send off the high profile players because those are the ones television viewers want to see. Jordan Ayew is definitely not one of these. Whether yesterday’s referee fell into this category one can only speculate. There is also, however, the issue of incompetence. If you pick 18 out of 22 referees from such a small area you are inevitably going to pick up quite a bit of dross. We now have only two referees based south of Birmingham, that is more than half the population of England, professional football clubs ( the National League North is supplemented by southern teams to make up numbers) and 10 of 20 Premier League sides. There are no referees from the London area with Tim Robinson of West Sussex being the nearest representative. If Durham and Fylde can have 6 of the 20 Select Group 2 referees the chances of us getting a fair, nationally balanced and neutral referees panel is a long way off. May I just say, what an excellent post NOG.
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Originally posted by berlinpalace
VAR is entitled to intervene as it was the attacking phase leading up to the penalty decision.
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Originally posted by Nicholas91
I think the first penalty should have stood. I didn’t see any identification of the exact moment a foul was committed. Hughes hassled their guy off the ball, he elected to fall over, it’s a contact sport. Furthermore the ref played on and had to stare at a VAR screen for some duration of time. It’s therefore a million miles from ‘clear and obvious’ before even considering it a foul in a first instance, in a contact sport. The JPM penalty is stonewall, there’s no debate. There were an equal amount of fouls between the sides however a sincerely disproportionate issuing of cards. Both Ayew yellows were dubious and where the ambiguity of the rules and their application favours a cheating ref to assist the bigger team. Giving them two yellows in the dying embers is evidence for me of an attempt to cook the books in acknowledgment of this. There’s ambiguity, subjective decision making, mistakes etc aplenty in football. When the script reads ‘overturned penalty, dodgy sending off and severely lopsided disciplinary action favours the title challengers to come from behind against their minnow opponents’, you know what is taking place. It’s a corrupt sport and a financial and commercial powerhouse. It’s not an even playing field. Not to mention Van Dick should have been shown a red not a yellow for tripping Eddie .
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Originally posted by Willo
VAR is entitled to intervene as it was the attacking phase leading up to the penalty decision.
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Originally posted by eagleman13
Just to add insult to injury, Palace have been fined £25k for indiscipline . . . [Link] Basically fined for asking for fair play and both teams to be treated equally. That is a crime in the Premier Leagues eyes,
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Originally posted by Norbury Old Git
Referees are under greater pressure than ever to make decisions in favour of the big television money earners of the League. This is not to say that all referees are corrupt but a select few can be relied upon to ensure the “right” result. It is my opinion that former head of PGMOL, Mike Riley, promoted mainly those referees based within 75 miles of his Sheffield home to keep a close eye on their compliance with his directives. Two that have been revealed by whistleblowers and aired on radio are that referees must follow the directions of VAR and that where possible not to send off the high profile players because those are the ones television viewers want to see. Jordan Ayew is definitely not one of these. Whether yesterday’s referee fell into this category one can only speculate. There is also, however, the issue of incompetence. If you pick 18 out of 22 referees from such a small area you are inevitably going to pick up quite a bit of dross. We now have only two referees based south of Birmingham, that is more than half the population of England, professional football clubs ( the National League North is supplemented by southern teams to make up numbers) and 10 of 20 Premier League sides. There are no referees from the London area with Tim Robinson of West Sussex being the nearest representative. If Durham and Fylde can have 6 of the 20 Select Group 2 referees the chances of us getting a fair, nationally balanced and neutral referees panel is a long way off. That’s very informative, I suspected this was the case, but to lazy to check. The more you put the pieces together the more it points to a situation that is quite a way from being beyond suspicion.
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Originally posted by Painter
Basically fined for asking for fair play and both teams to be treated equally. That is a crime in the Premier Leagues eyes, Is that donated to the fund for better relations between refs and top six clubs?
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Originally posted by Willo
With respect, Ayew never received a 'Red' as a result of a robust challenge.The 'Red' was as a result of a second 'Yellow' for a foul preventing a counter-attack. Clearly there are alternative viewpoints about individual refereeing decisions as there are in most games. Edited by Willo (10 Dec 2023 1.01pm) Exactly but Konate did it twice and got no card
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