I can’t agree. Roy picks the team and tactics, then supposedly motivates the players. Apart from Ayew and Lerma last night the rest were a disgrace, no effort or passion, that is down to the coaches, it doesn’t matter what players you have.
Blaming fans for complaining is signs of a desperate man.

Whilst Roy's comments last night did nothing for his fan club, let's all be honest he does not have much to choose from at the moment. When all our good players are fit we still have only circa 7 players who are worthy of being a regular on the team sheet. I know some think that we have some u21 who the think are very good but alas the are all unproven at EPL level and worst still they are bottom of the their EFL Trophy group 'C' having played three and lost three versus Wycombe/Wimbledon/Stevenage with a goal difference of -6. Clearly they are a long way from making it to elite football at EPL level. The problem is not really Roy but far deeper in terms of lack of 1st team investment and the sourcing of the right players in key positions. SP only interest seems to be his new stadium and his ego, which although I do accept the stadium is needed for future EPL football it will also be a bit of a white elephant if, as seems likely at the moment we may well drop in to the championship!

Whilst Roy's comments last night did nothing for his fan club, let's all be honest he does not have much to choose from at the moment. When all our good players are fit we still have only circa 7 players who are worthy of being a regular on the team sheet. I know some think that we have some u21 who the think are very good but alas the are all unproven at EPL level and worst still they are bottom of the their EFL Trophy group 'C' having played three and lost three versus Wycombe/Wimbledon/Stevenage with a goal difference of -6. Clearly they are a long way from making it to elite football at EPL level. The problem is not really Roy but far deeper in terms of lack of 1st team investment and the sourcing of the right players in key positions. SP only interest seems to be his new stadium and his ego, which although I do accept the stadium is needed for future EPL football it will also be a bit of a white elephant if, as seems likely at the moment we may well drop in to the championship!

Whilst Roy's comments last night did nothing for his fan club, let's all be honest he does not have much to choose from at the moment. When all our good players are fit we still have only circa 7 players who are worthy of being a regular on the team sheet. I know some think that we have some u21 who the think are very good but alas the are all unproven at EPL level and worst still they are bottom of the their EFL Trophy group 'C' having played three and lost three versus Wycombe/Wimbledon/Stevenage with a goal difference of -6. Clearly they are a long way from making it to elite football at EPL level. The problem is not really Roy but far deeper in terms of lack of 1st team investment and the sourcing of the right players in key positions. SP only interest seems to be his new stadium and his ego, which although I do accept the stadium is needed for future EPL football it will also be a bit of a white elephant if, as seems likely at the moment we may well drop in to the championship!

It’s not an either/or - you can recognise the shortages in the squad whilst also recognising that Roy is not getting the best out of the squad we do have. Both are very much true IMO.

I saw an interesting comparison on twitter of our U21s compared with Brighton - we finished 4th in the youth league last season, they finished 6th.

We don’t have a single player from that team playing regularly in either of the top two divisions.

For Brighton, Hinshelwood scored his first senior goal yesterday, Ferguson and Enciso are first team regulars, Moran is on a hugely successful loan in the championship and had a senior Ireland call up, and they’ve just given a senior debut to Baker-Boaitey.

I’m almost certain a different profile of manager would see qualities they like in our academy players - Roy just doesn’t seem interested in developing young players. There’s not a chance someone like Hinshelwood would have senior minutes under Roy, which is a huge part of the problem.