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cryrst Flag The garden of England 12 Oct 23 7.10pm Send a Private Message to cryrst Add cryrst as a friend

Originally posted by Matov


The bit I am mainly struggling with is the idea that it is a 'war'. Nation states fight wars. And even then, in this modern age, as rare as hens teeth.

Hamms launched a terrible terrorist attack. They run over the border, shot a load of poor sods, then f***ed off again. What Israel is effectively doing now is a policing operation.

But instead we get this 'war' BS being pour down our throats. Isreal is mobilsing 300,000 troops. The same number Russia has mobilsed for Ukraine (remember that?).

They are massing armour in Southern Israel. To what purpose? Makes zero sense beyond one big propaganda exercise. Muscle flexing. Isreal will be insane if they try to go toe to toe with Hammas in Gazza on anything other than a special forces platoon level.

We are literally seeing an army mobilised to attack a space of land smaller than South London. And even more congested.

I thought the west including the uk has been quoted to being at ‘war’ after terrorist attacks on their soil.
Why can’t Israel be at war with the terrorists. Maybe if Hamas hadn’t been voted in we wouldn’t be here. As with many people, don’t wish too hard as you might get what you wish for !

 

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Forest Hillbilly Flag in a hidey-hole 12 Oct 23 7.11pm Send a Private Message to Forest Hillbilly Add Forest Hillbilly as a friend

The lo9ng build-up to the Hamas atrocities seemed to slip off the media radar. ( a bit like finding information on Yemen)
Digging by both sides. But ultimately Israel wanted an excuse to take Palestinian areas, and they've been given it on a plate, by Hamas.
What we are about to see is the mass killing and ethnic cleansing of Palestinian areas (Hamas and men, women and children) and the final expansion of Israel.
What the Arab response will be is anyone's guess.

And I wish the UK Government wouldn't advocate Israel flags everywhere. Don't go ethnic cleansing in my name.

 


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Stirlingsays Flag 12 Oct 23 7.13pm Send a Private Message to Stirlingsays Holmesdale Online Elite Member Add Stirlingsays as a friend

Originally posted by PalazioVecchio

it seems that both sides are at this

Just thank god it isn't your war...and hope that it never is.

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Stirlingsays Flag 12 Oct 23 7.22pm Send a Private Message to Stirlingsays Holmesdale Online Elite Member Add Stirlingsays as a friend

Originally posted by Forest Hillbilly

The lo9ng build-up to the Hamas atrocities seemed to slip off the media radar. ( a bit like finding information on Yemen)
Digging by both sides. But ultimately Israel wanted an excuse to take Palestinian areas, and they've been given it on a plate, by Hamas.
What we are about to see is the mass killing and ethnic cleansing of Palestinian areas (Hamas and men, women and children) and the final expansion of Israel.
What the Arab response will be is anyone's guess.

And I wish the UK Government wouldn't advocate Israel flags everywhere. Don't go ethnic cleansing in my name.

Egypt said they warned Israel about these attacks but Israel denies it.....these attacks were so large scale and took such preparation it's hard to believe that Mossad had no idea but that's all speculation. Maybe it's true and it's a giant intelligence failure...

What will happen will happen....I'm not going to watch the videos as it's not good for your mental health.

 


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PalazioVecchio Flag south pole 12 Oct 23 7.24pm Send a Private Message to PalazioVecchio Add PalazioVecchio as a friend

Originally posted by Forest Hillbilly

What we are about to see is the mass killing and ethnic cleansing of Palestinian areas (Hamas and men, women and children) and the final expansion of Israel.
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somehow, i don't believe that for two seconds.

 


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Jamesrichards8 Flag 12 Oct 23 7.30pm Send a Private Message to Jamesrichards8 Add Jamesrichards8 as a friend

Originally posted by PalazioVecchio

somehow, i don't believe that for two seconds.

It's nonsense. Israel gave up these territories they're supposedly reclaiming within the last 20 years. And if they wanted an excuse to reclaim them, they didn't need a massacre, they could have just allowed any one of the hundreds of rockets fired by Palestine each year to hit civilian areas.

 


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Stirlingsays Flag 12 Oct 23 7.45pm Send a Private Message to Stirlingsays Holmesdale Online Elite Member Add Stirlingsays as a friend

Originally posted by Jamesrichards8

It's nonsense. Israel gave up these territories they're supposedly reclaiming within the last 20 years.

Was that Netanyahu though? Just looked it up it was under Ariel Sharon.

Originally posted by Jamesrichards8

And if they wanted an excuse to reclaim them, they didn't need a massacre, they could have just allowed any one of the hundreds of rockets fired by Palestine each year to hit civilian areas.

I don't think that would be enough to see the US sending down aircraft carriers to support them sending in hundreds of thousands of troops into Gaza, cutting off all their water, carpet bombing and putting out statements that basically talk of geociding Gaza.


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Yellow Card - User has been warned of conduct on the messageboards SW19 CPFC Flag Addiscombe West 12 Oct 23 8.33pm Send a Private Message to SW19 CPFC Add SW19 CPFC as a friend

Originally posted by Stirlingsays

Egypt said they warned Israel about these attacks but Israel denies it.....these attacks were so large scale and took such preparation it's hard to believe that Mossad had no idea but that's all speculation. Maybe it's true and it's a giant intelligence failure...

What will happen will happen....I'm not going to watch the videos as it's not good for your mental health.

Some interesting rumours about Hamas going as off grid as possible in planning - decentralising the whole thing into small cells etc. In my view the Israelis has become so confident in their defenses and excellence of their intelligence network that they had become complacent. It’s certainly not implausible - even with their capabilities mistakes happen more often than we probably know about.

Also - beginnings of reporting about the Israelis admitting to some level of intelligence failure, I also doubt they’d admit the full extent of it anyway. Embarrassment level off the charts

 


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Stirlingsays Flag 12 Oct 23 8.50pm Send a Private Message to Stirlingsays Holmesdale Online Elite Member Add Stirlingsays as a friend

Originally posted by SW19 CPFC

Some interesting rumours about Hamas going as off grid as possible in planning - decentralising the whole thing into small cells etc. In my view the Israelis has become so confident in their defenses and excellence of their intelligence network that they had become complacent. It’s certainly not implausible - even with their capabilities mistakes happen more often than we probably know about.

Also - beginnings of reporting about the Israelis admitting to some level of intelligence failure, I also doubt they’d admit the full extent of it anyway. Embarrassment level off the charts

Well I'm just speculating of course but personally I find the idea that Mossad haven't infiltrated Hamas up and down the chain as extremely difficult to believe. This attack took time and money and a lot of fighters....maybe it's possible that they didn't know the exact details...but....Well, I just find it difficult to believe that Egypt knew something big was on the cards but Israel didn't.

 


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PalazioVecchio Flag south pole 12 Oct 23 9.07pm Send a Private Message to PalazioVecchio Add PalazioVecchio as a friend

wars in Vietnam, korea, Kuwait.....were kinda localised events.

israel-palestine is global by its very nature.

9/11 was a part of this. And it could be London next , or Paris or wherever. Even the Arsenal vs Tottenham game could get very nasty and very political.


scary times

 


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nhp61 Flag Goring-By-Sea born, now in Brackne... 12 Oct 23 11.01pm Send a Private Message to nhp61 Add nhp61 as a friend

Originally posted by Forest Hillbilly

The lo9ng build-up to the Hamas atrocities seemed to slip off the media radar. ( a bit like finding information on Yemen)
Digging by both sides. But ultimately Israel wanted an excuse to take Palestinian areas, and they've been given it on a plate, by Hamas.
What we are about to see is the mass killing and ethnic cleansing of Palestinian areas (Hamas and men, women and children) and the final expansion of Israel.
What the Arab response will be is anyone's guess.

And I wish the UK Government wouldn't advocate Israel flags everywhere. Don't go ethnic cleansing in my name.

I'm glad we haven't got a Corbyn led government. I wouldn't have wanted them to have advocated Palestinian flags everywhere, as I wouldn't want terrorism in my name.

 

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Mapletree Flag Croydon 12 Oct 23 11.36pm Send a Private Message to Mapletree Add Mapletree as a friend

Originally posted by nhp61

I'm glad we haven't got a Corbyn led government. I wouldn't have wanted them to have advocated Palestinian flags everywhere, as I wouldn't want terrorism in my name.

Palestine did not kill the Israelis, Hamas did.

The Israeli state looks set to kill an enormous number of innocent women and children.

I do not wish either flag to be flown in my name.

 

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