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the silurian The garden of England.(not really) 30 May 23 7.31am | |
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Originally posted by Teddy Eagle
A cream tea and a walk in the countryside with a couple of dog walkers for company is a paean to the wonders of multi-culturalism and will surely resonate with all. Who among us hasn't taken a pleasant ramble through the bucolic glories of south London and thought the same? When I lived in Croydon, I often stopped for a nice cream tea, followed by a nice walk with the dog in the surrounding countryside.........more west country bulls*** from Wissy
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Badger11 Beckenham 30 May 23 7.53am | |
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Originally posted by Teddy Eagle
A cream tea and a walk in the countryside with a couple of dog walkers for company is a paean to the wonders of multi-culturalism and will surely resonate with all. Who among us hasn't taken a pleasant ramble through the bucolic glories of south London and thought the same? I love a walk through our park dodging the paid dog walkers with their out of control pets and the lycra warriors on their bikes or escooters or the parkrun joggers (how dare I get in their way) etc. It certainly keeps you on your toes you never know what's going to happen next. My very pro migration friend even had the joy of being sexually harassed by three men with a large angry dog. Naturally she was very upset and called the police they were very nice she said but didn't find the men. Ah the joys of London.
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Wisbech Eagle Truro Cornwall 30 May 23 8.25am | |
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Originally posted by Teddy Eagle
But where would he have got a piano from that soon after the creation of the universe? You have a point, but if Jerry Lee Lewis had somehow evolved a nanosecond after the big bang then surely he would have had enough time to build a piano?
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Wisbech Eagle Truro Cornwall 30 May 23 8.30am | |
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Originally posted by georgenorman
Naïve wishful thinking. The exact opposite is happening. There are many organisations and pressure groups among the various so called ‘communities’ who campaign to retain and extend their culture, religion and politics. One example was my earlier post of the theatre wanting to ban white people from their audience, purely because they are white. Meanwhile, various ‘hate’ legislation and propaganda is churned out to try to prop up this house of cards. There will always be bumps in the road. The direction though is clear, at least to me. Perhaps not so much to those surrounded by day to day impacts in their immediate locality.
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Wisbech Eagle Truro Cornwall 30 May 23 8.45am | |
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Originally posted by HKOwen
Pop down your local madrassa and tell them they are going to be a secular school and see what reaction you get. Simply an absurd post. That there would be resistance is certain and not just from the Muslim community but from other faiths too. They are all already regulated and required to teach the national curriculum. All I am suggesting is a step further. A step I believe is an essential statement for us to make in our increasingly non-religious society. If you live in the UK then you abide by its laws. You cannot regulate belief but you can regulate where it is publically demonstrated and taught. We require all children to go to school so we can control the environment in which they are taught alongside what they are taught. Religion ought to be a private matter, taught at home and in places of worship. It ought not enter any public space in any way at all or impact anyone who doesn't share it. We have pussyfooted around this issue for too long.
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Wisbech Eagle Truro Cornwall 30 May 23 8.53am | |
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Originally posted by Teddy Eagle
A cream tea and a walk in the countryside with a couple of dog walkers for company is a paean to the wonders of multi-culturalism and will surely resonate with all. Who among us hasn't taken a pleasant ramble through the bucolic glories of south London and thought the same? I wasn't suggesting a wander along the Wandle trying to pick out the blackbird sounds from the noise of road drills and calls to prayer! This was addressed to he who lives in that scenic wonderland to the east of known civilisation known as the Fens, where a bubbling stream, captured between high restraining banks to protect the lowlands beyond makes its final journey to the muddy Wash.
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Wisbech Eagle Truro Cornwall 30 May 23 8.59am | |
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Originally posted by the silurian
and often end up as the victims of so called 'honour killings'!! Often is untrue. Occasionally perhaps but always disgusting and a very strong reason why we must work to change the culture. That this happens is no reason not to change things. It needs to be confronted and corrected. I am quite sure those directly impacted will be leading the calls for change.
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HKOwen Hong Kong 30 May 23 9.41am | |
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Originally posted by Wisbech Eagle
That there would be resistance is certain and not just from the Muslim community but from other faiths too. They are all already regulated and required to teach the national curriculum. All I am suggesting is a step further. A step I believe is an essential statement for us to make in our increasingly non-religious society. If you live in the UK then you abide by its laws. You cannot regulate belief but you can regulate where it is publically demonstrated and taught. We require all children to go to school so we can control the environment in which they are taught alongside what they are taught. Religion ought to be a private matter, taught at home and in places of worship. It ought not enter any public space in any way at all or impact anyone who doesn't share it. We have pussyfooted around this issue for too long. As I said, absurd post, either deluded or naive to the nth degree, possibly a mixture of both and totally detached from reality of the way things actually are and a muddled thought process. That is ok , and of course explains many of your posts. And, state funded faith schools need to follow the national curriculum, privately funded do not. Edited by HKOwen (30 May 2023 9.45am) Edited by HKOwen (30 May 2023 9.50am)
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Stirlingsays 30 May 23 11.28am | |
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Originally posted by Wisbech Eagle
The only one lying here is you. You pretend to be concerned about immigration, but the truth is what actually concerns you is where the immigrants come from. When we were in the EU you complained because free movement allowed Eastern Europeans access. Now we are out you complain they come from somewhere else. When it's pointed out that Singapore unsurprisingly has a large number of Asians you seem to think that's somehow different. When we had Eastern Europeans you weren't happy. Singapore actually has a significant number of European and American ex-pats in residence. It is though only a tiny economy compared to ours. Japan has more overseas workers than the official figures suggest. Many are there on limited contracts with pragmatic blind eyes being turned. The government know they face the same problem as we do and are quietly finding ways to overcome it. This gives a flavour of a very familiar problem, complicated for Japan by their language:-
Where immigrants come from matters a lot. I've never said any different, so any claim of hypocrisy on my part is just false. I certainly do complain about any significant immigration European or otherwise as it affects social metrics like cohesion (lowering trust and increasing crime) and wages, housing....metrics Wisbech...you know, that measure that your idealogy doesn't give a feck about unless it affects you personally while hypocritically living with the Cornish cream....being a landlord you probably love it. The least diverse the immigration the better for any community. So, while I object in principle to immigration being used against the wishes of its people some types of immigration are obviously less negative than others with numbers obviously being the main impact. I don't know what the attitude in Singapore is to immigration but I can certainly tell you that most of its immigration is Asian and it's Asian for several reasons other than geographic. As for Japan, you just ignore all the facts that blow your contentions out of the water and push the globalist line. Whereas what I said is just the reality. As for the Japanese government they have literally said the opposite to your contentions. They are not going to naturalise foreigners for economic agendas. They know what people like you want. The only people you speak for in Japan are desperate globalists like yourself...mainly business opportunists looking to make money with no care for the social affects. You don't speak for the people of Japan when you promote that they want any significant diverse immigration. Originally posted by Wisbech Eagle
You do post some tripe on occasions! It's not the least like a dictatorship. Manifestos are a broad-brush wish list of hopes which often don't survive the first few days. They aren't, and cannot be, a list of cast iron commitments. Events, dear boy, events! And politics! For sure the electorate hold a government to account which is why jam tomorrow promises so often succeed, rather than a careful analysis of what has actually been possible. I want governments to lead where their convictions tell them they need us to go and not to follow the herd of popular opinion. An interesting perspective on manifestos there.....wish list indeed! Sure, unexpected events can happen, but a broad-brush wish list? Just more opportunity for deception and lies eh? Machiavellianism on steroids. So much for the so called democrat you have called yourself so many times on here. Originally posted by Wisbech Eagle
More tripe. That others might be as stupid as you over such an issue doesn't mean you are right and you most certainly aren't. It's a preposterous idea that to be able to have an opinion on something as big a subject as immigration you must live in the middle of some of the worst affected areas. I have never claimed to know what it's like to live in South London, or Bradford or Leicester in 2023. I haven't because I don't. Any more than you know what it's like to live in Cornwall. Unlike me, who does know what it was like to live in Wisbech 10 years ago. That's not and never has been anything to do with the general observations I make about immigration. They are not specific to any one area or anyone's personal experiences. The lady doth protest too much. You know it's hypocrisy and that's because it is. The man who doesn't live his principles, only pretends to have them. Originally posted by Wisbech Eagle
It ought to be blindingly obvious, but to a hypocrite like you surely are I guess you "do a Nelson". You constantly repeat your mantra about me not having the right to an opinion on immigration because I live in Cornwall. Whilst you offer daily opinions on this, and related subjects when you live in the Fens. As rural and isolated an area as anywhere in Eastern England. If that's not hypocritical they need to revise the dictionary. ? That doesn't make any sense. Where did I say you couldn't have an opinion. I'm pointing out that your opinion stands in opposition to your actions....that's what makes you a hyprocrite. You are happy to advocate for policies that worsen other people's lives but live away from the negative affects of it. I live in Wisbech, which you know is a town and it's been a pretty busy one since Blair. When we moved here in the eighties foreign immigration was almost unheard of. In line with my principles my family will be moving out as the social cohesion and safety of the area is only going one way here....probably within five years. Even if it was some backwater, which it isn't (my Internet is probably faster than yours) Edited by Stirlingsays (30 May 2023 11.32am)
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the silurian The garden of England.(not really) 30 May 23 11.28am | |
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Originally posted by Wisbech Eagle
Often is untrue. Occasionally perhaps but always disgusting and a very strong reason why we must work to change the culture. That this happens is no reason not to change things. It needs to be confronted and corrected. I am quite sure those directly impacted will be leading the calls for change. How exactly do you propose we do that, seeing as , by the time we find out, the victim is DEAD? Edited by the silurian (30 May 2023 11.59am)
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Teddy Eagle 30 May 23 12.06pm | |
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Originally posted by Wisbech Eagle
You have a point, but if Jerry Lee Lewis had somehow evolved a nanosecond after the big bang then surely he would have had enough time to build a piano? But not to source the raw materials, develop the skill needed to build, play or tune it, meet the writers and learn and sing the song.
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Wisbech Eagle Truro Cornwall 30 May 23 3.06pm | |
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Originally posted by HKOwen
As I said, absurd post, either deluded or naive to the nth degree, possibly a mixture of both and totally detached from reality of the way things actually are and a muddled thought process. That is ok , and of course explains many of your posts. And, state funded faith schools need to follow the national curriculum, privately funded do not. Edited by HKOwen (30 May 2023 9.45am) Edited by HKOwen (30 May 2023 9.50am) Revolutionary and challenging I would accept, but not deluded. It's a long way from even being openly discussed, let alone adopted but it is something I believe is both necessary and will happen in due time. There's nothing muddled about the need to ensure all children are educated free from religious indoctrination and able to form their own opinions. I am not suggesting that the religion of their parents not be taught. Only that it be done at home and in places of worship and that their schooling is secular. You are right though that whilst private schools are inspected to ensure standards are met they can set their own curriculum. So long as that has no religious influences in it I would be content with that so that would just become part of the inspection regime.
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