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MrRobbo Chaldon 01 Aug 23 9.07am
Originally posted by cROYdonrogers OK I'm ready for some abuse but am I the only one slightly warry of this signing. Seems a precocious talent and may be brilliant but a route through Portugal or Spain may be better. From our perspective will he play. The Roy factor has already been highlighted. Can we play 3 skill players in our team (I realise Olise injured at the moment). Finally since our funds are limited is this too much of a gamble? That said I'll be delighted if he scores the winner at Bramall Lane but he will be lucky to make the bench. No, I'm a bit wary too. With Olise and Eze having proven they could play in the champs you, knew they could take a hit and still shine, the question was just could they perform a level up. This guys has a massive step up to make, after a very limited amount of senior football. But it was only a few years back that Vinicius Jr practically went straight into the Madrid first team. I'm guessing he'll be playing wide left? Would be odd to spunk our transfer budget on someone who plays in Eze's position. Like Eze and Olise, he'll be eased in, but lets hope (like them) that he starts to play so well that Roy has to start him.
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Chaldon 01 Aug 23 9.07am

Originally posted by cROYdonrogers

OK I'm ready for some abuse but am I the only one slightly warry of this signing. Seems a precocious talent and may be brilliant but a route through Portugal or Spain may be better.
From our perspective will he play. The Roy factor has already been highlighted. Can we play 3 skill players in our team (I realise Olise injured at the moment). Finally since our funds are limited is this too much of a gamble?
That said I'll be delighted if he scores the winner at Bramall Lane but he will be lucky to make the bench.

No, I'm a bit wary too. With Olise and Eze having proven they could play in the champs you, knew they could take a hit and still shine, the question was just could they perform a level up.

This guys has a massive step up to make, after a very limited amount of senior football. But it was only a few years back that Vinicius Jr practically went straight into the Madrid first team.

I'm guessing he'll be playing wide left? Would be odd to spunk our transfer budget on someone who plays in Eze's position.

Like Eze and Olise, he'll be eased in, but lets hope (like them) that he starts to play so well that Roy has to start him.

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doombear Too far from Selhurst Park 01 Aug 23 9.17am
Originally posted by Nicholas91 Perhaps an official announcement tomorrow? Now, now, Nick, you ought to know better than that - it's not Friday.
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Too far from Selhurst Park 01 Aug 23 9.17am

Originally posted by Nicholas91

Perhaps an official announcement tomorrow?

Now, now, Nick, you ought to know better than that - it's not Friday.

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doombear Too far from Selhurst Park 01 Aug 23 9.31am
Originally posted by MrRobbo No, I'm a bit wary too. With Olise and Eze having proven they could play in the champs you, knew they could take a hit and still shine, the question was just could they perform a level up. This guys has a massive step up to make, after a very limited amount of senior football. But it was only a few years back that Vinicius Jr practically went straight into the Madrid first team. I'm guessing he'll be playing wide left? Would be odd to spunk our transfer budget on someone who plays in Eze's position. Like Eze and Olise, he'll be eased in, but lets hope (like them) that he starts to play so well that Roy has to start him. That's purportedly one of his many positions. Apparently, he can play LW, RW, no 10, false 9, CM. If that is actually true and he can perform well in all of those positions (not all at once, of course) then he will be a valuable asset to the club. It is to be noted that Freedman was in Brazil earlier in the year to see him play in real time so this is no kneejerk reaction to Zaha's departure, rather it's the next piece in the jigsaw. Finally, I will be surprised if we are spending that kind of money to play him in the U21s or send him out on loan or sit on the bench.
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Too far from Selhurst Park 01 Aug 23 9.31am

Originally posted by MrRobbo

No, I'm a bit wary too. With Olise and Eze having proven they could play in the champs you, knew they could take a hit and still shine, the question was just could they perform a level up.

This guys has a massive step up to make, after a very limited amount of senior football. But it was only a few years back that Vinicius Jr practically went straight into the Madrid first team.

I'm guessing he'll be playing wide left? Would be odd to spunk our transfer budget on someone who plays in Eze's position.

Like Eze and Olise, he'll be eased in, but lets hope (like them) that he starts to play so well that Roy has to start him.

That's purportedly one of his many positions. Apparently, he can play LW, RW, no 10, false 9, CM. If that is actually true and he can perform well in all of those positions (not all at once, of course) then he will be a valuable asset to the club.

It is to be noted that Freedman was in Brazil earlier in the year to see him play in real time so this is no kneejerk reaction to Zaha's departure, rather it's the next piece in the jigsaw.

Finally, I will be surprised if we are spending that kind of money to play him in the U21s or send him out on loan or sit on the bench.

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doombear Too far from Selhurst Park 01 Aug 23 9.34am
Originally posted by MrRobbo No, I'm a bit wary too. With Olise and Eze having proven they could play in the champs you, knew they could take a hit and still shine, the question was just could they perform a level up. This guys has a massive step up to make, after a very limited amount of senior football. But it was only a few years back that Vinicius Jr practically went straight into the Madrid first team. I'm guessing he'll be playing wide left? Would be odd to spunk our transfer budget on someone who plays in Eze's position. Like Eze and Olise, he'll be eased in, but lets hope (like them) that he starts to play so well that Roy has to start him. That's purportedly one of his many positions. Apparently, he can play LW, RW, no 10, false 9, CM. If that is actually true and he can perform well in all of those positions (not all at once, of course) then he will be a valuable asset to the club. It is to be noted that Freedman was in Brazil earlier in the year to see him play in real time so this is no kneejerk reaction to Zaha's departure, rather it's the next piece in the jigsaw. Finally, I will be surprised if we are spending that kind of money to play him in the U21s or send him out on loan or sit on the bench.
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Too far from Selhurst Park 01 Aug 23 9.34am

Originally posted by MrRobbo

No, I'm a bit wary too. With Olise and Eze having proven they could play in the champs you, knew they could take a hit and still shine, the question was just could they perform a level up.

This guys has a massive step up to make, after a very limited amount of senior football. But it was only a few years back that Vinicius Jr practically went straight into the Madrid first team.

I'm guessing he'll be playing wide left? Would be odd to spunk our transfer budget on someone who plays in Eze's position.

Like Eze and Olise, he'll be eased in, but lets hope (like them) that he starts to play so well that Roy has to start him.

It is to be noted that Freedman was in Brazil earlier in the year to see him play in real time so this is no kneejerk reaction to Zaha's departure, rather it's the next piece in the jigsaw.

Finally, I will be surprised if we are spending that kind of money to play him in the U21s or send him out on loan or sit on the bench.

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silvertop Portishead 01 Aug 23 9.37am
Originally posted by doombear That's purportedly one of his many positions. Apparently, he can play LW, RW, no 10, false 9, CM. If that is actually true and he can perform well in all of those positions (not all at once, of course) then he will be a valuable asset to the club. It is to be noted that Freedman was in Brazil earlier in the year to see him play in real time so this is no kneejerk reaction to Zaha's departure, rather it's the next piece in the jigsaw. Finally, I will be surprised if we are spending that kind of money to play him in the U21s or send him out on loan or sit on the bench. We wont. That's absurd. If rumours are to be believed and given the number of positions he plays, he may have to play 2 roles at the same time to replace Zaha AND Olise?
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Portishead 01 Aug 23 9.37am

Originally posted by doombear

It is to be noted that Freedman was in Brazil earlier in the year to see him play in real time so this is no kneejerk reaction to Zaha's departure, rather it's the next piece in the jigsaw.

Finally, I will be surprised if we are spending that kind of money to play him in the U21s or send him out on loan or sit on the bench.

We wont. That's absurd.

If rumours are to be believed and given the number of positions he plays, he may have to play 2 roles at the same time to replace Zaha AND Olise?

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Badger11 Beckenham 01 Aug 23 9.50am
Originally posted by doombear That's purportedly one of his many positions. Apparently, he can play LW, RW, no 10, false 9, CM. If that is actually true and he can perform well in all of those positions (not all at once, of course) then he will be a valuable asset to the club. It is to be noted that Freedman was in Brazil earlier in the year to see him play in real time so this is no kneejerk reaction to Zaha's departure, rather it's the next piece in the jigsaw. Finally, I will be surprised if we are spending that kind of money to play him in the U21s or send him out on loan or sit on the bench. So we'll play him at left back, solves that problem. One more point
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Beckenham 01 Aug 23 9.50am

Originally posted by doombear

That's purportedly one of his many positions. Apparently, he can play LW, RW, no 10, false 9, CM. If that is actually true and he can perform well in all of those positions (not all at once, of course) then he will be a valuable asset to the club.

It is to be noted that Freedman was in Brazil earlier in the year to see him play in real time so this is no kneejerk reaction to Zaha's departure, rather it's the next piece in the jigsaw.

Finally, I will be surprised if we are spending that kind of money to play him in the U21s or send him out on loan or sit on the bench.

So we'll play him at left back, solves that problem.

One more point

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madcap_v2 SE25 / Ibiza 01 Aug 23 10.42am
Originally posted by Nicholas91 They should film him ordering a pint of the cheapest available alcoholic beverage in a south London Wetherspoons at 9:30am then sitting at a table with a few betting slips. I’d love that. I'd enjoy that too but will settle to a keepy uppy skills video in the Norwood Junction underpass with Mas Que Nada playing in the background! La la la your mum
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SE25 / Ibiza 01 Aug 23 10.42am

Originally posted by Nicholas91

They should film him ordering a pint of the cheapest available alcoholic beverage in a south London Wetherspoons at 9:30am then sitting at a table with a few betting slips. I’d love that.

I'd enjoy that too but will settle to a keepy uppy skills video in the Norwood Junction underpass with Mas Que Nada playing in the background!

La la la your mum

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samprior Hamburg 01 Aug 23 11.38am
The lad is clearly highly thought of and at 19 has a lot of potential. The mere fact a Brazilian could be coming to Palace is exciting haha. The fact that he's a versatile attacker will be very useful and should give him more opportunities and I'm sure he'd enjoy linking up with Eze and Olise. Obviously YouTube compilations can make anyone look amazing so I like to try and find individual match highlights as I think they give a more accurate representation of a players ability. Here's 4 I found from within the last year; [Link] [Link] [Link] [Link] His strengths appear to be his physical attributes, strength and toughness for a 19 year old, speed and directness, ability and willingness to take on a player. Weaknesses appear to be decision making, sloppy passes and attacking positioning and knowing how to take up dangerous positions. Certainly seems like a lot to be excited about with his main weaknesses being something that can be worked on and stuff which is very common for young players. We'll have to be patient as he's young and is making a huge move at such a young age but he looks like a tough lad, who can handle some rough treatment on the pitch and is used to playing in high pressure atmospheres. I await the photo of him holding a Palace shirt...or news of a late West Ham bid.
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Hamburg 01 Aug 23 11.38am

The lad is clearly highly thought of and at 19 has a lot of potential. The mere fact a Brazilian could be coming to Palace is exciting haha. The fact that he's a versatile attacker will be very useful and should give him more opportunities and I'm sure he'd enjoy linking up with Eze and Olise.

Obviously YouTube compilations can make anyone look amazing so I like to try and find individual match highlights as I think they give a more accurate representation of a players ability.

Here's 4 I found from within the last year;

[Link]

His strengths appear to be his physical attributes, strength and toughness for a 19 year old, speed and directness, ability and willingness to take on a player.

Weaknesses appear to be decision making, sloppy passes and attacking positioning and knowing how to take up dangerous positions.

Certainly seems like a lot to be excited about with his main weaknesses being something that can be worked on and stuff which is very common for young players.

We'll have to be patient as he's young and is making a huge move at such a young age but he looks like a tough lad, who can handle some rough treatment on the pitch and is used to playing in high pressure atmospheres.

I await the photo of him holding a Palace shirt...or news of a late West Ham bid.

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ASCPFC Pro-Cathedral/caravan park 01 Aug 23 11.40am
He really plays DM, CM, AM if anyone's interested. Something like started at DM and then was put in a more attacking role. With us I would think in Eze's position. I think Eze might go Left Inside Forward this season. Red and Blue Army!
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Pro-Cathedral/caravan park 01 Aug 23 11.40am

He really plays DM, CM, AM if anyone's interested. Something like started at DM and then was put in a more attacking role. With us I would think in Eze's position. I think Eze might go Left Inside Forward this season.

Red and Blue Army!

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adelaar Edgware 01 Aug 23 11.49am
There was talk yesterday of Spurs replacing Kane with £50m for Brennan Johnson. £50 million! If that's the going rate I'm more than happy to see us take a calculated punt for half that figure for this lad. What we do know is he could be a flop, but he could also be really exciting and a great asset. I for one will turn up at Selhurst to see what we have on our hands. Edited by adelaar (01 Aug 2023 11.50am) Edited by adelaar (01 Aug 2023 11.51am)
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Edgware 01 Aug 23 11.49am

There was talk yesterday of Spurs replacing Kane with £50m for Brennan Johnson.
£50 million! If that's the going rate I'm more than happy to see us take a calculated punt for half that figure for this lad.
What we do know is he could be a flop, but he could also be really exciting and a great asset. I for one will turn up at Selhurst to see what we have on our hands.

Edited by adelaar (01 Aug 2023 11.50am)

Edited by adelaar (01 Aug 2023 11.51am)

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Hudsoneagle 01 Aug 23 11.52am
I can’t see anything to support that. He has predominantly played CAM. His next most played position being CF. I’ve seen him compared to Kevin De Bruyne as a playmaker type of player. But when I watch him he looks more like a Phil Foden type of player.
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01 Aug 23 11.52am

I can’t see anything to support that. He has predominantly played CAM. His next most played position being CF.

I’ve seen him compared to Kevin De Bruyne as a playmaker type of player. But when I watch him he looks more like a Phil Foden type of player.

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Lanzo-Ad Lanzarote 01 Aug 23 12.04pm
Originally posted by ASCPFC He really plays DM, CM, AM if anyone's interested. Something like started at DM and then was put in a more attacking role. With us I would think in Eze's position. I think Eze might go Left Inside Forward this season. Wash your mouth out, the King stays Center Stage “That’s a joke son, I say, that’s a joke.” “Nice boy, but he’s sharp as a throw pillow.” “He’s so dumb he thinks a Mexican border pays rent” “ “Son… I say, son, some people are so narrow minded they can look through a keyhole with both eyes.”__ Forhorn Leghorn
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Lanzarote 01 Aug 23 12.04pm

Originally posted by ASCPFC

Wash your mouth out, the King stays Center Stage

“That’s a joke son, I say, that’s a joke.” “Nice boy, but he’s sharp as a throw pillow.” “He’s so dumb he thinks a Mexican border pays rent” “ “Son… I say, son, some people are so narrow minded they can look through a keyhole with both eyes.”__ Forhorn Leghorn

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