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Vieira vs Roy V2.0
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 MrRobbo  Chaldon 20 Oct 23 4.40pm |
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Originally posted by Nicholas91
PV for me was a pretty easy script to write were it written: Was a nice try from everybody but didn't work out. It's a cruel business but necessarily so. Think he's at Strasbourg now, to quote Willo: "Patrick Vieira, born 23 June 1976, is a French professional football manager and former player who is the head coach of Ligue 1 club Strasbourg." I think this is the crux of it, but not just Vieria, any young manager. If it was any other job, you'd want demonstrable evidence that they know how to turn things round. Especially given its a situation which is likely to arise. Will be interesting to see how the season pans out for Carrick. Seems to have steadied the ship.
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 grumpymort  US/Thailand/UK 20 Oct 23 7.33pm |
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Originally posted by Glazier#1
Oh, come now. At the moment, as others have mentioned, Mr Hodgson is doing what is required with the resources we have, injury-wise. You talk as if 'negative style football is his default. How come you've forgotten what happened at the back-end of last season, when he presided over us playing the most positive style football we've seen at the club in years. I don't wish to be disrespectful but what on earth were you watching? I do get so fed up with the tarring of our manager with the 'boring Roy-ball' toffee.
Last season is meaningless different time and situation. I could ask you the same maybe you need to take the rose tint specs off.
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| doombear Too far from Selhurst Park 20 Oct 23 8.05pm |
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Originally posted by grumpymort
Last season is meaningless different time and situation. I could ask you the same maybe you need to take the rose tint specs off. Only Citeh and Arsenal have conceded fewer goals than Palace this season in the PL and I think we've only conceded one from a set play in the league so far (other than the two penalties). So what are you basing your comments on? Clearly NOT last season since you regard that as "meaningless different time and situation".
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PalazioVecchio  south pole 20 Oct 23 8.32pm |
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Originally posted by grumpymort
Last season is meaningless different time and situation. I could ask you the same maybe you need to take the rose tint specs off. ah yes. sure. Roy is making a pig's ear of it. I mean, you would never imagine us winning at Old Trafford ?
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| Glazier#1 21 Oct 23 11.33am |
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Or four clean sheets this term?
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Lanzo-Ad  Lanzarote 21 Oct 23 11.43am |
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Is this thread still going on, Roy was and is a top class manager, and Patrick Vieira as a manager was and is a Buffoon.
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| Palace in the Blood 21 Oct 23 11.47am |
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| Palace in the Blood 21 Oct 23 11.48am |
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Originally posted by Palace in the Blood
I think Viera lost the dressing room. I have no idea why but from virtually the instant Roy was reappointed the players looked happier and more settled. I think Eze is perfect example he looks twice the player than under Viera
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EaglesEaglesEagles  21 Oct 23 12.05pm |
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I just remember some of our devastating play under Roy with a full squad minus Zaha towards the tail end of last season after the frustration of PV with late concessions and an often toothless attack. I'm going to be patient for the next few months. 4, 5 or 6 points will be an ok return from November because I don't expect to see Olise or Eze starting before December with our poor record of injury recovery. Hopefully come our tricky run in December we can be a strong counter attacking force and steal a win or two as underdogs. Closing in to around 25 points come January with how the fixtures have arranged themselves will be more promising than it seems and a springboard for the positive team play that we can see with Roy sides.
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| PalazioVecchio south pole 27 May 24 5.22pm |
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Glasner has now made Roy look like a mediocre manager. Roy made Vieira look mediocre. so how good ( or rubbish ) is Vieira overall ? Strasbourg seem to have had a shyte season.
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beak  croydon 27 May 24 5.47pm |
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VIEIRA walked out on the job so he is not worth the print space.
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| Lanzo-Ad Lanzarote 27 May 24 7.21pm |
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Originally posted by PalazioVecchio
Glasner has now made Roy look like a mediocre manager. Roy made Vieira look mediocre. so how good ( or rubbish ) is Vieira overall ? Strasbourg seem to have had a shyte season. Vierea is total s***e as a manager, no presence, no discipline, no clue about anything, Roy was a genius compared to Vieira, Patrick is an embarrassment to management and himself
“That’s a joke son, I say, that’s a joke.” “Nice boy, but he’s sharp as a throw pillow.” “He’s so dumb he thinks a Mexican border pays rent” “ “Son… I say, son, some people are so narrow minded they can look through a keyhole with both eyes.”__ Forhorn Leghorn |
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