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Wisbech Eagle Truro Cornwall 04 Oct 22 4.02pm
Originally posted by Teddy Eagle So only 28% should be allowed into women's changing rooms. . Only if you believe that physical appearance is the sole determinant of sexuality. That it isn’t is at the heart of this, and why so much education remains to be done. For the avoidance of doubt any comments in response to a previous post are directed to its ideas and not at any, or all, posters personally.
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Wisbech Eagle

Truro Cornwall 04 Oct 22 4.02pm

Originally posted by Teddy Eagle

So only 28% should be allowed into women's changing rooms.

Only if you believe that physical appearance is the sole determinant of sexuality.

That it isn’t is at the heart of this, and why so much education remains to be done.

For the avoidance of doubt any comments in response to a previous post are directed to its ideas and not at any, or all, posters personally.

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Teddy Eagle 04 Oct 22 5.09pm
Originally posted by Wisbech Eagle . Only if you believe that physical appearance is the sole determinant of sexuality. That it isn’t is at the heart of this, and why so much education remains to be done. Well since your assurance was that no one would even know it would seem that the in 72% of cases the evidence would be quite obvious whereas if they used the men's changing room it wouldn't be.
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04 Oct 22 5.09pm

Originally posted by Wisbech Eagle

Only if you believe that physical appearance is the sole determinant of sexuality.

That it isn’t is at the heart of this, and why so much education remains to be done.

Well since your assurance was that no one would even know it would seem that the in 72% of cases the evidence would be quite obvious whereas if they used the men's changing room it wouldn't be.

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Badger11 Beckenham 04 Oct 22 5.41pm
Originally posted by Teddy Eagle So only 28% should be allowed into women's changing rooms. And mores to the point how does the poor member of staff work out who is who. If 78% don't want the operation how is the staff suppose to separate them from some pervert in a dress. One more point
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Beckenham 04 Oct 22 5.41pm

Originally posted by Teddy Eagle

So only 28% should be allowed into women's changing rooms.

And mores to the point how does the poor member of staff work out who is who. If 78% don't want the operation how is the staff suppose to separate them from some pervert in a dress.

One more point

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Wisbech Eagle Truro Cornwall 04 Oct 22 7.15pm
Originally posted by Teddy Eagle Well since your assurance was that no one would even know it would seem that the in 72% of cases the evidence would be quite obvious whereas if they used the men's changing room it wouldn't be. Of course not. Ladies use separate cubicles so everything personal is kept very private. The only areas of contact are at the wash basins and entrance and exits. If the ladies are like us they avoid eye contact and chatter with strangers when using the loos. . It’s happening widely, everyday, without anyone suspecting. The concerns are mostly imaginary. Ladies are under more threat from predatory gay women than ever they are from genuine transgenders. Those transgenders would be under serious threat if they were forced to use male facilities. For the avoidance of doubt any comments in response to a previous post are directed to its ideas and not at any, or all, posters personally.
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Wisbech Eagle

Truro Cornwall 04 Oct 22 7.15pm

Originally posted by Teddy Eagle

Well since your assurance was that no one would even know it would seem that the in 72% of cases the evidence would be quite obvious whereas if they used the men's changing room it wouldn't be.

Of course not.

Ladies use separate cubicles so everything personal is kept very private.

The only areas of contact are at the wash basins and entrance and exits. If the ladies are like us they avoid eye contact and chatter with strangers when using the loos. .

It’s happening widely, everyday, without anyone suspecting. The concerns are mostly imaginary.

Ladies are under more threat from predatory gay women than ever they are from genuine transgenders.

Those transgenders would be under serious threat if they were forced to use male facilities.

For the avoidance of doubt any comments in response to a previous post are directed to its ideas and not at any, or all, posters personally.

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Wisbech Eagle Truro Cornwall 04 Oct 22 7.22pm
Originally posted by Badger11 And mores to the point how does the poor member of staff work out who is who. If 78% don't want the operation how is the staff suppose to separate them from some pervert in a dress. Most toilets don’t have staff. Changing rooms generally do and that can easily be overcome by an ID card issued by a heath care professional. It’s not a bad idea actually, as your “perverts” would also be restrained, which might help provide reassurance. For the avoidance of doubt any comments in response to a previous post are directed to its ideas and not at any, or all, posters personally.
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Wisbech Eagle

Truro Cornwall 04 Oct 22 7.22pm

Originally posted by Badger11

And mores to the point how does the poor member of staff work out who is who. If 78% don't want the operation how is the staff suppose to separate them from some pervert in a dress.

Most toilets don’t have staff.

Changing rooms generally do and that can easily be overcome by an ID card issued by a heath care professional.

It’s not a bad idea actually, as your “perverts” would also be restrained, which might help provide reassurance.

For the avoidance of doubt any comments in response to a previous post are directed to its ideas and not at any, or all, posters personally.

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Badger11 Beckenham 04 Oct 22 7.34pm
Originally posted by Wisbech Eagle Most toilets don’t have staff. Changing rooms generally do and that can easily be overcome by an ID card issued by a heath care professional. It’s not a bad idea actually, as your “perverts” would also be restrained, which might help provide reassurance. Oh sure the Trans community will love it. I expect they will point out it should be a Yellow star instead of a card. One more point
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Beckenham 04 Oct 22 7.34pm

Originally posted by Wisbech Eagle

Most toilets don’t have staff.

Changing rooms generally do and that can easily be overcome by an ID card issued by a heath care professional.

It’s not a bad idea actually, as your “perverts” would also be restrained, which might help provide reassurance.

Oh sure the Trans community will love it. I expect they will point out it should be a Yellow star instead of a card.

One more point

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cryrst The garden of England 04 Oct 22 7.38pm
Originally posted by Wisbech Eagle It just isn't true. It's a commonly held myth. 72%% of trans men state they don't want surgery. How many have you actually spent any time with and had them explain their emotions, motivations and intentions? So they are transvestites. Men who dress up as women. Transgender is the actual act of changing sex through drugs or operations. It’s all been wrapped up very nicely hasn’t it. To coin a phrase
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The garden of England 04 Oct 22 7.38pm

Originally posted by Wisbech Eagle

It just isn't true. It's a commonly held myth. 72%% of trans men state they don't want surgery.

How many have you actually spent any time with and had them explain their emotions, motivations and intentions?

So they are transvestites. Men who dress up as women. Transgender is the actual act of changing sex through drugs or operations. It’s all been wrapped up very nicely hasn’t it. To coin a phrase

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Spiderman Horsham 04 Oct 22 7.52pm
Originally posted by Wisbech Eagle . Only if you believe that physical appearance is the sole determinant of sexuality. That it isn’t is at the heart of this, and why so much education remains to be done. Edited by Spiderman (04 Oct 2022 8.10pm)
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Horsham 04 Oct 22 7.52pm

Originally posted by Wisbech Eagle

Only if you believe that physical appearance is the sole determinant of sexuality.

That it isn’t is at the heart of this, and why so much education remains to be done.

Edited by Spiderman (04 Oct 2022 8.10pm)

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Spiderman Horsham 04 Oct 22 7.57pm
Originally posted by Wisbech Eagle Of course not. Ladies use separate cubicles so everything personal is kept very private. The only areas of contact are at the wash basins and entrance and exits. If the ladies are like us they avoid eye contact and chatter with strangers when using the loos. . It’s happening widely, everyday, without anyone suspecting. The concerns are mostly imaginary. Ladies are under more threat from predatory gay women than ever they are from genuine transgenders. Those transgenders would be under serious threat if they were forced to use male facilities. What about showers? All changing rooms have them. Your 2nd to last paragraph is actually quite ridiculous, even more so than the rest of this post. can you provide any proof whatsoever to backup that statement? So a transgender feeling under threat is more serious than females feeling under threat? Bonkers
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Horsham 04 Oct 22 7.57pm

Originally posted by Wisbech Eagle

Of course not.

Ladies use separate cubicles so everything personal is kept very private.

The only areas of contact are at the wash basins and entrance and exits. If the ladies are like us they avoid eye contact and chatter with strangers when using the loos. .

It’s happening widely, everyday, without anyone suspecting. The concerns are mostly imaginary.

Ladies are under more threat from predatory gay women than ever they are from genuine transgenders.

Those transgenders would be under serious threat if they were forced to use male facilities.

What about showers? All changing rooms have them. Your 2nd to last paragraph is actually quite ridiculous, even more so than the rest of this post. can you provide any proof whatsoever to backup that statement?
So a transgender feeling under threat is more serious than females feeling under threat? Bonkers

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Spiderman Horsham 04 Oct 22 8.01pm
Originally posted by Wisbech Eagle ' In one short phrase we see why this attitude is so very wrong. Transgenderism is not promoted to anyone. That the support and care that is provided these days is perceived as promotional is evidence of a very distorted attitude. No one at all fails to see the stresses that someone within a family going through a transition places upon it. Which is why all involved need guidance and help. It’s not anti-family to help families under strain. It’s not anti-society to educate society about some of its members. Transgenderism is not a mental illness. Those who think that are more likely to be mentally ill than those transitioning. This attitude is no better than those religious zealots who believe they can cure people of being gay. A decent sense of morality moves with the times and depends on knowledge and education. It is not the morality of yesterday. A few yesterdays ago we burned witches and kept slaves. The hypocrite is the one who pretends to care about society, but happily excludes part of it, seeking to impose their own outdated standards on the way. I think you are missing the point that this is being forced upon people, against their will. Everyone should have a choice but this isnthappeningis it! My wife chooses not to want to share a changing room with a biological male, but her choice is being ignored….fact Edited by Spiderman (04 Oct 2022 8.01pm)
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Horsham 04 Oct 22 8.01pm

Originally posted by Wisbech Eagle

In one short phrase we see why this attitude is so very wrong.

Transgenderism is not promoted to anyone. That the support and care that is provided these days is perceived as promotional is evidence of a very distorted attitude.

No one at all fails to see the stresses that someone within a family going through a transition places upon it. Which is why all involved need guidance and help.

It’s not anti-family to help families under strain. It’s not anti-society to educate society about some of its members.

Transgenderism is not a mental illness. Those who think that are more likely to be mentally ill than those transitioning.

This attitude is no better than those religious zealots who believe they can cure people of being gay.

A decent sense of morality moves with the times and depends on knowledge and education. It is not the morality of yesterday. A few yesterdays ago we burned witches and kept slaves.

The hypocrite is the one who pretends to care about society, but happily excludes part of it, seeking to impose their own outdated standards on the way.

I think you are missing the point that this is being forced upon people, against their will. Everyone should have a choice but this isnthappeningis it! My wife chooses not to want to share a changing room with a biological male, but her choice is being ignored….fact

Edited by Spiderman (04 Oct 2022 8.01pm)

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Wisbech Eagle Truro Cornwall 04 Oct 22 8.20pm
Originally posted by Badger11 Oh sure the Trans community will love it. I expect they will point out it should be a Yellow star instead of a card.[/quote I already use an ID card to gain access to certain toilets because of a medical condition and do so without any shame. So I see no reason to suppose what you say is true.] For the avoidance of doubt any comments in response to a previous post are directed to its ideas and not at any, or all, posters personally.
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Truro Cornwall 04 Oct 22 8.20pm

Originally posted by Badger11

Oh sure the Trans community will love it. I expect they will point out it should be a Yellow star instead of a card.[/quote

I already use an ID card to gain access to certain toilets because of a medical condition and do so without any shame.

So I see no reason to suppose what you say is true.]

For the avoidance of doubt any comments in response to a previous post are directed to its ideas and not at any, or all, posters personally.

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Wisbech Eagle Truro Cornwall 04 Oct 22 8.25pm
Originally posted by cryrst So they are transvestites. Men who dress up as women. Transgender is the actual act of changing sex through drugs or operations. It’s all been wrapped up very nicely hasn’t it. To coin a phrase No it isn’t. Transgenderism is an internal sense, not a physical act. Transvestites simply like to dress in women’s clothes. For the avoidance of doubt any comments in response to a previous post are directed to its ideas and not at any, or all, posters personally.
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Truro Cornwall 04 Oct 22 8.25pm

Originally posted by cryrst

So they are transvestites. Men who dress up as women. Transgender is the actual act of changing sex through drugs or operations. It’s all been wrapped up very nicely hasn’t it. To coin a phrase

No it isn’t.

Transgenderism is an internal sense, not a physical act.

Transvestites simply like to dress in women’s clothes.

For the avoidance of doubt any comments in response to a previous post are directed to its ideas and not at any, or all, posters personally.

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