It appears to be so endemic that they can't bring themselves to bring in rules that substantively do anything about it. I had thought that claims of it being a conservative issue were just partisanship but if you see the numbers it's literally almost exclusively tories with second jobs and 'consultancy' roles, raking in millions.

Really though regardless of a persons politics this is terrible as it's a key elements of corporations having a voice that those casting a vote lack, and all that this then leads to. It's a shame that the other thread led to a tonne of 'but what about labour!' from some, as 1) evidentially this presently far more concentrated in one party 2) any changes brought in that clamp down on this impact all parties anyway so such distractions are counterproductive to a solution 3) the core of so many (almost all) problems in society realistically comes down to corporate influence and who's getting paid, so we should be laser focused on it rather than fob it off.

There are some strange ideas about ethics that we simply ignore if it's not 'our lot' (aka a bunch of politicians we align with who still don't give a monkeys toss about us). The PPI contract stuff was nothing short of despicable for instance - this dynamic writ large - and yet it was painted like some kind of made up scandal.

If anything solving problems like this are as important as who we vote for, as money and jobs for influence only seeks to silence the voice of the people and drain money by the billion from the tax payer without us getting much of anything to show for it.

Thanks. Sadly I expect things will carry on much as they have done anyway, so there may be an element of p!ssing in the wind to it. But who knows.. hope springs eternal

You post this because you aren't a tory of course. It won't change my vote as sharing the wealth doesn't work.
Capitalism has taken millions more out of poverty than socialism.
Do the research!

I think you are both right.

The profit motive definitely works better than any other tried system.

The criticism is in the implementation....I think the left are correct to point out...for example the ridiculous advances the top percent have made since the seventies compared to the working Joe/Jane in the street.

There should be a symbiotic relationship between the rich and poor(er) because it keeps the interests of both aligned. Since that was broken the consequences are quite dystopian in my view.

I don't regard it as an attack on the successful principles of capitalism to point out that we are all being fleeced by financial elites with far too much influence on what happens in our lives. We, nor our ancestors I might add, ever agreed to sign over that financial power nor influence.

Edited by Stirlingsays (19 Nov 2021 2.04am)