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Petereagle Flag Brockley 16 Sep 20 7.51pm Send a Private Message to Petereagle Add Petereagle as a friend

Originally posted by bashy2

According to SSN palace are meeting with benhama representatives this week before making a bid for him that's the latest I've heard read into that I reckon we will get him just hope its before the end of the transfer window

Thanks Bashy. Fingers crossed

 

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mattteo Flag 16 Sep 20 9.00pm Send a Private Message to mattteo Add mattteo as a friend

Originally posted by Petereagle

Thanks Bashy. Fingers crossed

Toget signed or not? Cause, well...25 mollion can be put to better use for a club like Palace.

 

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Palace Passion Flag Bromley, South London 16 Sep 20 9.48pm Send a Private Message to Palace Passion Add Palace Passion as a friend

Originally posted by mattteo

Toget signed or not? Cause, well...25 mollion can be put to better use for a club like Palace.

Have a day off will you!

 


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***Oliver Glasner's RED BLUE ARMY***
Be loud.. Be proud.. Be PALACE!

staffie - missed but never forgotten 19/04/15

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Mapletree Flag Croydon 16 Sep 20 10.05pm Send a Private Message to Mapletree Add Mapletree as a friend

Been talking to a member of staff at Brentford. She said it’s great watching Benrahma train, he is brilliant. But he’s working hard on improving his English and is painfully shy. She hopes we get him.

Edited by Mapletree (16 Sep 2020 10.06pm)

 

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kennybrowns leftfoot Flag Reigate 16 Sep 20 10.08pm Send a Private Message to kennybrowns leftfoot Add kennybrowns leftfoot as a friend

Originally posted by Palace Passion

Have a day off will you!

I know... It's like being stuck in between an episode of Jackanory and David Brent..

 


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Mapletree Flag Croydon 16 Sep 20 10.08pm Send a Private Message to Mapletree Add Mapletree as a friend

Originally posted by mattteo

Toget signed or not? Cause, well...25 mollion can be put to better use for a club like Palace.

I am now officially bored with you.

FFS learn to write short posts and stop always claiming to know better than the professionals and everyone else.

 

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Mapletree Flag Croydon 16 Sep 20 10.11pm Send a Private Message to Mapletree Add Mapletree as a friend

Originally posted by mattteo

I don't think Spiderman was being ironic. That is, if he indeed has an old enough son to be working.

Then you missed the point.

 

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EverybodyDannsNow Flag SE19 16 Sep 20 10.29pm Send a Private Message to EverybodyDannsNow Add EverybodyDannsNow as a friend

Originally posted by mattteo

Hi Ginger Public! Sure, I talk a lot but that is not recommending all those players or all for the first team. A lot of what I say is "I believe this player isn't goid enough or just not for that amount". Other times I recommend cheap young players from Central or Eastern Euope who cost very little to be loaned out and maybe make the first team in 1-2 years. And they've almist always had value increase, so it would have at least been a million financial win. Look at Chelsea, they make a lot of money selling olayers who have just been on loan.

My actual recommendations were:
Depay in 2018 for 15 million when being considered a Man United flop by most, but I was more interesred in his level for that certain age. And he went fo Lyon of France who wasn't playing Champions League football and had finished 5th the previous season and on a salary of 55.000. While we paid in that window or the next one a similar amount for Schlupp and a similar salary, with also 80.000 for Townsend, 100.000 for Sakho, 120.000 for Tekkers, 60.000 for Wickham. You don't think Depay woukd have refused 5th place in France to stay in the top league in the world if we offered him a similar salary?

Batshuayi for Benteke exchange also in 2018

Nils Petersen of Germany as center forward that same year


Andone or Niasse for 3rd choice center forward in a small deal (6 million)

Tadic when he left Southampton (afterwards becoming best assister in Netherlands and UCL semi-finalist, making Top 30 Ballon d'Or nominees) or the younger Harry Wilson as left foot right winger

Hernani of Porto or Jony of Spain (later most assists in Spain after Messi in 1 season) as low sum transfer backup

Ola John as no-cost player backup

Quincy Promes or Tello considered by me as best possible left wing players the next year, especially with talk of Zaha leaving more pregnant

El Shaarawy when he was available for just 12 million from Rome would have replaced the aging Nils Petersen

Tammy Abraham (when available for 15 million) would have replaced Andone or Niasse

Lewis Holtby as central midfielder to replace Cabaye

Danny da Costa from Eintracht and AWB to compete at right back (said this a long time ago)

Ribery when Bayern Munich sold him and we would have had to let Depay move on, cause he would have been impossible to keep at the level he would have achieved (same he did in Lyon).

Cahill as center back (this actually happened)

Alban Lafont as goalkeeper (I admit I'm rather poor at gks and did mot know about Guaita, who had been a great signing)

And for the investments I named: Kulusevski for even 10 million (cause I just saw how good he was at just 18-19 years old, you can read that I wrote about it the "Potential transfers from the Euro U21" thread), Bongonda for 1 million in 2018, Eliasson for 2 million (before he became the second assist provider in the Championship this season, but it's ok because he finishes his contract in the summer and bosses could still bring him in and he would even accept to be loaned out a little more years in the Championship if he knew there was a PL club waiting for him, I know it), Moussa Kone for 3 million, Almoez Alli Abdula for 2 million, Avdijaj for free, Gustafson 1 million, Jefferson Savarino for free, Alberth Elis for free, Ruben Vargas for 2 million, Despodov for 2.5 million, Leya Iseka for 5 million, Dan Crowley for 0.7 million, Joe Aribo free, Tom Dele-Bashiru free, Almamy Toure for 0.7 million, Rolando Aarons 2 million, Imoh Ezekiel free, Stepinski 2.5 million, Trauco 1 million, Arzamendia 0.7 million), Felix Passlack (1 million).

In total: 34.5 million


Now let's see how much the club could have brought in after these players developed. For example, Kulusevski belonged to Atalanta and he didn't make a single Serie A start for them. They just loaned him to Parma who was stupid enough not to insert a buy-option, but just took him on a season-long long because he was a promising youth. He played soo well for Parma that the Italian giants became crazy for him. Juventus and Inter threw massive amounts of money that Atalanta wasn't even thinking about before the start of this season (I heard they would have rejected offers of 6 million from England, but would have surely accepted 10 million for a youth player with no first team appearances). But all of a sudden, they got offers from the big Serie A in the order of dozens of millions. They sold Kulusevski for 40 million just because he had been on loan at Parma 4 months.

So, Kulusevski, value gone up to 40 million
Bongonda up to 7 million (he was bought by a small Belgian team in the transfer window I spoke about him for 1 million and sold this window to Genk for 7 million, this is what I mean)
Eliasson up to 10 million after being the 2nd best assister in the Championship this season at 22 years old
Moussa Kone, doing very well in the German 2.Bundesliga for his age, up to 7 million
Almoez Alli Abdulla- up to 7 million after the Asian Cup
Avdijaj is still struggling to become important, but I'm still waiting on him, I'll put 0 for now
Gustafson up to 2 million
Joe Aribo up to 10 million
Jefferson Savarino and ALberth Elis would be worth at least 5 million each if sent on loan for playing time in the Championship
Ruben Vargas up to 10 million
Despodov up to 7 million
Leya Iseka still at 5 million, waiting for him
Dan Crowley up to 2 million
Almamy Toure up to 5 million
Stepinski up to 5 million
Rolando Aarons still at 2 million
Miguel Trauco up to 5 million

Total income if sold in this transfer window: 134.5 million

I will not say more about Benrahma to derail this thread, just this: Newcastle is negociating with Roma youbgster Cengiz Under a fee under 23 million. A player with top speed, very hard working, left footed, has so many assists and goals in top league and European Cup competitions, national team experience and costs as much as a good player but from the English 2nd league.

Phenomenal.

 

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spartakev2 Flag Anerley 16 Sep 20 10.36pm Send a Private Message to spartakev2 Add spartakev2 as a friend

Originally posted by mattteo

Hi Ginger Public! Sure, I talk a lot but that is not recommending all those players or all for the first team. A lot of what I say is "I believe this player isn't goid enough or just not for that amount". Other times I recommend cheap young players from Central or Eastern Euope who cost very little to be loaned out and maybe make the first team in 1-2 years. And they've almist always had value increase, so it would have at least been a million financial win. Look at Chelsea, they make a lot of money selling olayers who have just been on loan.

My actual recommendations were:
Depay in 2018 for 15 million when being considered a Man United flop by most, but I was more interesred in his level for that certain age. And he went fo Lyon of France who wasn't playing Champions League football and had finished 5th the previous season and on a salary of 55.000. While we paid in that window or the next one a similar amount for Schlupp and a similar salary, with also 80.000 for Townsend, 100.000 for Sakho, 120.000 for Tekkers, 60.000 for Wickham. You don't think Depay woukd have refused 5th place in France to stay in the top league in the world if we offered him a similar salary?

Batshuayi for Benteke exchange also in 2018

Nils Petersen of Germany as center forward that same year


Andone or Niasse for 3rd choice center forward in a small deal (6 million)

Tadic when he left Southampton (afterwards becoming best assister in Netherlands and UCL semi-finalist, making Top 30 Ballon d'Or nominees) or the younger Harry Wilson as left foot right winger

Hernani of Porto or Jony of Spain (later most assists in Spain after Messi in 1 season) as low sum transfer backup

Ola John as no-cost player backup

Quincy Promes or Tello considered by me as best possible left wing players the next year, especially with talk of Zaha leaving more pregnant

El Shaarawy when he was available for just 12 million from Rome would have replaced the aging Nils Petersen

Tammy Abraham (when available for 15 million) would have replaced Andone or Niasse

Lewis Holtby as central midfielder to replace Cabaye

Danny da Costa from Eintracht and AWB to compete at right back (said this a long time ago)

Ribery when Bayern Munich sold him and we would have had to let Depay move on, cause he would have been impossible to keep at the level he would have achieved (same he did in Lyon).

Cahill as center back (this actually happened)

Alban Lafont as goalkeeper (I admit I'm rather poor at gks and did mot know about Guaita, who had been a great signing)

And for the investments I named: Kulusevski for even 10 million (cause I just saw how good he was at just 18-19 years old, you can read that I wrote about it the "Potential transfers from the Euro U21" thread), Bongonda for 1 million in 2018, Eliasson for 2 million (before he became the second assist provider in the Championship this season, but it's ok because he finishes his contract in the summer and bosses could still bring him in and he would even accept to be loaned out a little more years in the Championship if he knew there was a PL club waiting for him, I know it), Moussa Kone for 3 million, Almoez Alli Abdula for 2 million, Avdijaj for free, Gustafson 1 million, Jefferson Savarino for free, Alberth Elis for free, Ruben Vargas for 2 million, Despodov for 2.5 million, Leya Iseka for 5 million, Dan Crowley for 0.7 million, Joe Aribo free, Tom Dele-Bashiru free, Almamy Toure for 0.7 million, Rolando Aarons 2 million, Imoh Ezekiel free, Stepinski 2.5 million, Trauco 1 million, Arzamendia 0.7 million), Felix Passlack (1 million).

In total: 34.5 million


Now let's see how much the club could have brought in after these players developed. For example, Kulusevski belonged to Atalanta and he didn't make a single Serie A start for them. They just loaned him to Parma who was stupid enough not to insert a buy-option, but just took him on a season-long long because he was a promising youth. He played soo well for Parma that the Italian giants became crazy for him. Juventus and Inter threw massive amounts of money that Atalanta wasn't even thinking about before the start of this season (I heard they would have rejected offers of 6 million from England, but would have surely accepted 10 million for a youth player with no first team appearances). But all of a sudden, they got offers from the big Serie A in the order of dozens of millions. They sold Kulusevski for 40 million just because he had been on loan at Parma 4 months.

So, Kulusevski, value gone up to 40 million
Bongonda up to 7 million (he was bought by a small Belgian team in the transfer window I spoke about him for 1 million and sold this window to Genk for 7 million, this is what I mean)
Eliasson up to 10 million after being the 2nd best assister in the Championship this season at 22 years old
Moussa Kone, doing very well in the German 2.Bundesliga for his age, up to 7 million
Almoez Alli Abdulla- up to 7 million after the Asian Cup
Avdijaj is still struggling to become important, but I'm still waiting on him, I'll put 0 for now
Gustafson up to 2 million
Joe Aribo up to 10 million
Jefferson Savarino and ALberth Elis would be worth at least 5 million each if sent on loan for playing time in the Championship
Ruben Vargas up to 10 million
Despodov up to 7 million
Leya Iseka still at 5 million, waiting for him
Dan Crowley up to 2 million
Almamy Toure up to 5 million
Stepinski up to 5 million
Rolando Aarons still at 2 million
Miguel Trauco up to 5 million

Total income if sold in this transfer window: 134.5 million

I will not say more about Benrahma to derail this thread, just this: Newcastle is negociating with Roma youbgster Cengiz Under a fee under 23 million. A player with top speed, very hard working, left footed, has so many assists and goals in top league and European Cup competitions, national team experience and costs as much as a good player but from the English 2nd league.

FFS you are getting soooooo boring now. Give it a rest.

 

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Stirlingsays Flag 16 Sep 20 10.48pm Send a Private Message to Stirlingsays Holmesdale Online Elite Member Add Stirlingsays as a friend

I'm not sure I agree with Mattteo on stuff but god you have to admire his commitment to detail.

Edited by Stirlingsays (16 Sep 2020 10.50pm)

 


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Hootie121082 Flag Vrysoulles 16 Sep 20 11.03pm Send a Private Message to Hootie121082 Add Hootie121082 as a friend

Originally posted by Mapletree

I am now officially bored with you.

FFS learn to write short posts and stop always claiming to know better than the professionals and everyone else.

Finally!!! This needed to be said because Matteo is getting tedious now. Especially after his 'swap Zaha for Walcott' post, that he seriously did not like me disagreeing with. But he did give me a novel to read which helped me sleep that night

Edited by Hootie121082 (16 Sep 2020 11.04pm)

Edited by Hootie121082 (16 Sep 2020 11.04pm)

 


FEELING GLAD ALL OVER

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pompeyeagle Flag Relocated to Shropshire 16 Sep 20 11.17pm Send a Private Message to pompeyeagle Add pompeyeagle as a friend

Originally posted by Hootie121082

Finally!!! This needed to be said because Matteo is getting tedious now. Especially after his 'swap Zaha for Walcott' post, that he seriously did not like me disagreeing with. But he did give me a novel to read which helped me sleep that night

Edited by Hootie121082 (16 Sep 2020 11.04pm)

Edited by Hootie121082 (16 Sep 2020 11.04pm)

Absolutely. I’ve read some stupid threads on here but the Walcott for Zaha one really takes the biscuit.

 

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