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berlinpalace berlin 14 Nov 19 3.39pm | |
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Originally posted by cryrst
So now heres a dilemma for greta. Here you go, knock yourself out.
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cryrst The garden of England 14 Nov 19 7.38pm | |
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Looks like progress but 300 charges!
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berlinpalace berlin 15 Nov 19 12.01am | |
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Originally posted by cryrst
Looks like progress but 300 charges! You did understand the part where it explained that even at this stage of development it costs a tiny fraction of the price of other batteries? That’s always the problem with you right wing fruit loops, science is so difficult for you. Ah well, the world moves on, do try to keep up.
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cryrst The garden of England 15 Nov 19 6.08am | |
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Originally posted by berlinpalace
You did understand the part where it explained that even at this stage of development it costs a tiny fraction of the price of other batteries? That’s always the problem with you right wing fruit loops, science is so difficult for you. Ah well, the world moves on, do try to keep up. Not the point I was making.
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Invalid user 2019 15 Nov 19 7.52am | |
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This is a fundamental problem and we have a level of denial over it, but regardless it will gradually over time impose itself as the issue that really matters. At that time the politics and opinion this way or that will take a back seat. It's a unique challenge and society and nations aren't typically structured in such a way that we are uniformly doing anything about it with any particular haste until we feel that there is no alternative. We have moved away from man on the moon mindset big ideas, and inhabit a comfortable yet uninspired state, where wealth is pointlessly squirreled away by an ever smaller percentage of the population and we just bicker between ourselves. Those are the roles we've assumed.
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berlinpalace berlin 15 Nov 19 12.24pm | |
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Originally posted by cryrst
Not the point I was making. Well we already have electric vehicles that can go well over 300 miles between charges and I would expect that recycling is a major
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sickboy Deal or Croydon 15 Nov 19 3.49pm | |
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Originally posted by berlinpalace
Well we already have electric vehicles that can go well over 300 miles between charges and I would expect that recycling is a major What car? did a test of e cars last month.
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berlinpalace berlin 16 Nov 19 10.50am | |
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Originally posted by sickboy
What car? did a test of e cars last month. Fair point, if you go with ‘real world’ testing then there’s a few that come in around 260/270 which is still way above the 100 miles the earlier poster was quoting.
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sickboy Deal or Croydon 16 Nov 19 12.58pm | |
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Originally posted by berlinpalace
Fair point, if you go with ‘real world’ testing then there’s a few that come in around 260/270 which is still way above the 100 miles the earlier poster was quoting. Also nowhere near the way over 300 you quoted either.
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sickboy Deal or Croydon 16 Nov 19 1.02pm | |
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As we dive into winter again and the first snows have fallen on The British isles, i know that if i got stuck overnight in a car in freezing conditions there is no way i would want to be in an ev. ICE wins that argument hands down.
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silvertop Portishead 16 Nov 19 1.46pm | |
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Right wingers? I get the desire for small government low taxes few barriers to commerce and conservative values and the attempt to check modern trends to somehow keep the world as you perceive it. I don't always agree but I do get the standpoint. On climate change I do not get it. In the US ok as the fossil fuel industry is thick with the Christian right whose innate low intelligence makes them highly susceptible to the sort of cod scientific bollox they are fed. They hold the genuine belief that climate change is a fiction the invention of the Chinese etc as they are not clever enough to know better. However what's your excuse? Why do you so readily grasp anything that runs counter to Exxon business interests as if they were the dominant factors. Take the cobalt mining point. Probably true. However technology is young and the ingredients may eventually switch to synthesised elements. In the meantime if you ask the population of the relevant countries as a whole I bet most would on balance take poor work conditions for their miners over floods and drought that destroy their crops and cause their children to starve. Climate change is all but universally acknowledged as the biggest danger facing our world. A damn site more important than the health service Brexit immigration et al and obviously so. So why is anti green politics still the mantra of the conservative right? WHY?
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Badger11 Beckenham 20 Nov 19 9.58am | |
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Originally posted by silvertop
Right wingers? I get the desire for small government low taxes few barriers to commerce and conservative values and the attempt to check modern trends to somehow keep the world as you perceive it. I don't always agree but I do get the standpoint. On climate change I do not get it. In the US ok as the fossil fuel industry is thick with the Christian right whose innate low intelligence makes them highly susceptible to the sort of cod scientific bollox they are fed. They hold the genuine belief that climate change is a fiction the invention of the Chinese etc as they are not clever enough to know better. However what's your excuse? Why do you so readily grasp anything that runs counter to Exxon business interests as if they were the dominant factors. Take the cobalt mining point. Probably true. However technology is young and the ingredients may eventually switch to synthesised elements. In the meantime if you ask the population of the relevant countries as a whole I bet most would on balance take poor work conditions for their miners over floods and drought that destroy their crops and cause their children to starve. Climate change is all but universally acknowledged as the biggest danger facing our world. A damn site more important than the health service Brexit immigration et al and obviously so. So why is anti green politics still the mantra of the conservative right? Actually a fair question. I berate the left when they complain about the flag of St George as being racist, it's their flag as well and if they flew it with pride at their demos it would not be the property of the right. I guess the same applies to climate change which is currently dominated by left leaning people so their solutions are those of the left. I am not a climate change denier and your are correct the right should be able to make a case for climate change that doesn't involves spending billions in taxes and forcing people back to the middle ages. I think this is slowly starting to happen, in the this election all mainstream parties ate making pledges. So your correct it is up to other to wrest the subject from being the exclusive domain of the left and denying it doesn't exist probably won't get the job done.
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