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ASCPFC Pro-Cathedral/caravan park 09 Jan 22 3.40pm | |
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Originally posted by Stirlingsays
Well he's certainly a rich man.
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croydon proud Any european country i fancy! 12 Jan 22 2.23pm | |
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Randy will face a civil sex case trial-his lawyers have lost the appeal- get out the popcorn!
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cryrst The garden of England 12 Jan 22 2.47pm | |
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Originally posted by croydon proud
Randy will face a civil sex case trial-his lawyers have lost the appeal- get out the popcorn! So it is about the money then!
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croydon proud Any european country i fancy! 12 Jan 22 6.21pm | |
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Originally posted by cryrst
So it is about the money then! I have no idea if the innocent child victim was in to cricket- but I know a man who might!
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cryrst The garden of England 12 Jan 22 7.26pm | |
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Originally posted by croydon proud
I have no idea if the innocent child victim was in to cricket- but I know a man who might! What the innocent 17 year old similar to one you were possibly smashing. Was she not innocent?
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croydon proud Any european country i fancy! 12 Jan 22 7.30pm | |
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Originally posted by cryrst
What the innocent 17 year old similar to one you were possibly smashing. Was she not innocent? Whos that then? You still got her number?
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BlueJay UK 13 Jan 22 1.53am | |
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It's noteworthy that a white teenager trafficked by a notorious white pedo is posited to be some kind of sexually crazed tart. Night and day compared to the grooming thread here. It's as if those in this horrendous case can't be further used to push a specific demographic dislike and so are viewed in a more off hand or nonplussed light. That is not to say by the way that there aren't specific issues in said cultures. All should be pursued without fear or favour, but like these crimes in many or most contexts they often are not. Whatever people think of this girl (opportunist or whatever) the wider context is that Epstein and Maxwell were luring in young children to be coerced into sex with adult men and she was caught up in that. When we diminish her, it's important to realise that to an extent we do the same with those victims too. Whether it's culturally or religiously based, high society exploitation, or childrens homes, the overriding factor in all of these instances is that it almost always goes on for an unbelievable amount of time before anyone is held to account. Sometimes that's due to powerful institutions hushing it up, or wildly misplaced cultural sensitivities, others a culture of silence. Certainly also a level of mental disconnect too with decent people just not wanting to accept that it takes place so mentally reframing it as something else or attributing a level of blame to the victims.
Edited by BlueJay (13 Jan 2022 1.55am)
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the.universal 13 Jan 22 8.24am | |
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Originally posted by BlueJay
It's noteworthy that a white teenager trafficked by a notorious white pedo is posited to be some kind of sexually crazed tart. Night and day compared to the grooming thread here. It's as if those in this horrendous case can't be further used to push a specific demographic dislike and so are viewed in a more off hand or nonplussed light. That is not to say by the way that there aren't specific issues in said cultures. All should be pursued without fear or favour, but like these crimes in many or most contexts they often are not. Whatever people think of this girl (opportunist or whatever) the wider context is that Epstein and Maxwell were luring in young children to be coerced into sex with adult men and she was caught up in that. When we diminish her, it's important to realise that to an extent we do the same with those victims too. Whether it's culturally or religiously based, high society exploitation, or childrens homes, the overriding factor in all of these instances is that it almost always goes on for an unbelievable amount of time before anyone is held to account. Sometimes that's due to powerful institutions hushing it up, or wildly misplaced cultural sensitivities, others a culture of silence. Certainly also a level of mental disconnect too with decent people just not wanting to accept that it takes place so mentally reframing it as something else or attributing a level of blame to the victims.
Edited by BlueJay (13 Jan 2022 1.55am) Amazing post!
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Mapletree Croydon 13 Jan 22 9.14am | |
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Originally posted by BlueJay
It's noteworthy that a white teenager trafficked by a notorious white pedo is posited to be some kind of sexually crazed tart. Night and day compared to the grooming thread here. It's as if those in this horrendous case can't be further used to push a specific demographic dislike and so are viewed in a more off hand or nonplussed light. That is not to say by the way that there aren't specific issues in said cultures. All should be pursued without fear or favour, but like these crimes in many or most contexts they often are not. Whatever people think of this girl (opportunist or whatever) the wider context is that Epstein and Maxwell were luring in young children to be coerced into sex with adult men and she was caught up in that. When we diminish her, it's important to realise that to an extent we do the same with those victims too. Whether it's culturally or religiously based, high society exploitation, or childrens homes, the overriding factor in all of these instances is that it almost always goes on for an unbelievable amount of time before anyone is held to account. Sometimes that's due to powerful institutions hushing it up, or wildly misplaced cultural sensitivities, others a culture of silence. Certainly also a level of mental disconnect too with decent people just not wanting to accept that it takes place so mentally reframing it as something else or attributing a level of blame to the victims.
Edited by BlueJay (13 Jan 2022 1.55am) Yup And remember the Shirley Oaks victims are getting money. So they were all tarts?
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cryrst The garden of England 13 Jan 22 10.37am | |
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Originally posted by Mapletree
Yup And remember the Shirley Oaks victims are getting money. So they were all tarts? The difference being they haven't all signed off years ago and accepted money. This girl did.
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ASCPFC Pro-Cathedral/caravan park 13 Jan 22 11.54am | |
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Personally, I'm not willing to openly judge either party in this without all of the evidence. Not that it is going to matter in the US courts, frankly. The full evidence will probably never come out but expect some sensationalist books over the next few years.
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Mapletree Croydon 13 Jan 22 11.58am | |
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Originally posted by cryrst
The difference being they haven't all signed off years ago and accepted money. This girl did. Not true They were given a small payment but are fighting for more She signed an agreement with Epstein that could not include vague allusions to unnamed others with any authority. She has no agreement with PA and became riled when he totally disrespected her experience and refuted what is likely to prove to be largely true.
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