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 Vaibow  vancouver/croydon 29 May 19 2.10am |
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Originally posted by Eaglecoops
Are you trying to say that we are merely a proving ground for another team? It makes it sound like we don’t deserve to have finished article players at Palace, just those passing through. In reality, any team outside the top 4 with quality, standout players are mere gate keepers, it's called progression. He, as it stands, was to stay another year and progress the way he is, he will be capable of joining a top 4 team. Staying here makes sense - makes him better, makes us better with him playing and the money goes up. You can see that surely. Just like wilf.
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taylors lovechild  30 May 19 6.08pm |
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Marc Edworthy throwing his two pence in. He probably remembers when he made the decision to leave Palace for the bright lights of Coventry! [Link] What was it about Palace players joining Coventry back in the 90s? Shaw, Salako, Edworthy.
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| Willo South coast - west of Brighton. 30 May 19 7.01pm |
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Originally posted by taylors lovechild
Marc Edworthy throwing his two pence in. He probably remembers when he made the decision to leave Palace for the bright lights of Coventry! [Link] What was it about Palace players joining Coventry back in the 90s? Shaw, Salako, Edworthy. Edworthy and Shaw were at Coventry at the same time. Shaw was at Coventry for a good few years and I have a feeling Salako and Shaw were there at the same time. Edited by Willo (30 May 2019 7.04pm)
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| Eaglecoops CR3 31 May 19 9.56am |
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Originally posted by Vaibow
In reality, any team outside the top 4 with quality, standout players are mere gate keepers, it's called progression. He, as it stands, was to stay another year and progress the way he is, he will be capable of joining a top 4 team. Staying here makes sense - makes him better, makes us better with him playing and the money goes up. You can see that surely. Just like wilf. I can see it and I understand it, but it doesn’t necessarily mean it is right. The longer teams/owners go on thinking that way, the less likely they are to bridge the gap that is opening up between the top 4/6 and the rest. I want to see more equality in football which means finding a way to hold onto your best and brightest assets rather than warming them up to go play for someone else. The simple argument against this is, “well it has always been like that “ but I don’t see that as progression. At the moment the gap is getting bigger to the extent that the talk of a European super league cannot be far off becoming a reality and then all of the money will be sucked up by those teams and the rest will have no chance of holding onto decent players.
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| Vaibow vancouver/croydon 01 Jun 19 3.56am |
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Originally posted by Eaglecoops
I can see it and I understand it, but it doesn’t necessarily mean it is right. The longer teams/owners go on thinking that way, the less likely they are to bridge the gap that is opening up between the top 4/6 and the rest. I want to see more equality in football which means finding a way to hold onto your best and brightest assets rather than warming them up to go play for someone else. The simple argument against this is, “well it has always been like that “ but I don’t see that as progression. At the moment the gap is getting bigger to the extent that the talk of a European super league cannot be far off becoming a reality and then all of the money will be sucked up by those teams and the rest will have no chance of holding onto decent players. But if wilf and awb as an example want trophies/europe, which one could argue is their level and the board cannot afford to get in players that will lift us and collectively aren't good enough, what do we do? That's literally the way it is. Until the fa cap teams and demand 3 players be home grown, 4 under 25, 3 ginger, one with dyslexia, what are you to do?
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n wales eagles  llandudno 01 Jun 19 6.47am |
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No diea
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| Midlands Eagle 01 Jun 19 8.13am |
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Originally posted by Vaibow
There is no answer that all of the interested parties would agree to. The best that we can do is to develop our academy to bring through more quality players and hope that we can get a couple of decent seasons out of them before flogging them for a lot of money
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Littlebogreek  08 Jun 19 11.17pm |
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Big bid in from United. Ffs
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 Hrolf The Ganger 08 Jun 19 11.55pm |
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Fans are becoming so feeble. No player on a long contract will be sold unless the club wants it.
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| Omph Liverpool 09 Jun 19 5.16am |
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Originally posted by Hrolf The Ganger
Fans are becoming so feeble. No player on a long contract will be sold unless the club wants it.
Is AWB necessary for survival? In football terms I’m not sure he influences the pattern of our play that much. The strength of our defence - and in comparative terms it is a strength when you look at teams around us - is in the collective and the organisation RH brings. Would our point total have been so very different with Ward at right back? I’m not convinced - Ward is a very decent defended at this level. The case with Wilf is different - imo - just because it’s that much harder to replace goal threat in the PL and because so much of our play revolves around him as an outlet. We’d be a very different team without him - not the case with AWB
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| JohnB 09 Jun 19 6.55am |
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Man U have apparently bid £30m plus add ons to just over £37m. You'd have to think that wouldn't be enough to tempt us at the moment.
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| southnorwoodhill 09 Jun 19 7.12am |
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He's had one fine full season and the club may sell him, according to reports. Doesn't say a lot for the ambition of the club to retain home grown quality individuals.
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