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Willo Flag South coast - west of Brighton. 28 Oct 18 10.52pm Send a Private Message to Willo Add Willo as a friend

Originally posted by The Dolphin

I thought Luca was way better today.
PVA was to blame for their first goal giving him the ball as he did in my opinion.
He bleeds red and blue and will go on from today and get back to his old self!

If players try and play out from the back in confined areas like the incident to which you refer there is always the danger that one could put one's team in trouble.Passing inside like PVA did is asking for trouble and he really should have thumped the ball down the field.

 

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lefty27 Flag ipswich 28 Oct 18 11.52pm Send a Private Message to lefty27 Add lefty27 as a friend

Originally posted by Willo

If players try and play out from the back in confined areas like the incident to which you refer there is always the danger that one could put one's team in trouble.Passing inside like PVA did is asking for trouble and he really should have thumped the ball down the field.

100% agree Willo. Happened right in front of us, PVA should have just floated it down the line. Apart from anything their fullbacks were so high that long balls into the channels caused them problems.
PVA totally f***ed Luka over with that pass.
That said we seem to be playing or trying to out from the back more, or maybe the lack of a tekkers means we are less of inclined to play long?

 

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Ginger Pubic Wig Flag Wickham de L'Ouest 29 Oct 18 6.42am Send a Private Message to Ginger Pubic Wig Add Ginger Pubic Wig as a friend

An interesting theme from yesterday was that the newer players all seemed to be part of the team a bit more.

Ayew held it up pretty well to bring others into play and really led our press, that was by far Kouyate's best game, and Sorloth had the bit between his teeth for the first time. He actually threw himself about a bit and used his size.

I can see why Meyer was a defensive midfielder at Schalke. He receives the ball with his back to goal amd turns so well. With Luka in that role, though, I sort of keep wondering what our new recruit is as a player.


 


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Petereagle Flag Brockley 29 Oct 18 7.53am Send a Private Message to Petereagle Add Petereagle as a friend

Originally posted by Willo

If players try and play out from the back in confined areas like the incident to which you refer there is always the danger that one could put one's team in trouble.Passing inside like PVA did is asking for trouble and he really should have thumped the ball down the field.

Very good point. Arsenal were ready to pounce on the edge of the penalty area, and a long pass out or even into touch would have saved a goal

 

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Rudi Hedman Flag Caterham 29 Oct 18 8.27am Send a Private Message to Rudi Hedman Add Rudi Hedman as a friend

Originally posted by Ginger Pubic Wig

An interesting theme from yesterday was that the newer players all seemed to be part of the team a bit more.

Ayew held it up pretty well to bring others into play and really led our press, that was by far Kouyate's best game, and Sorloth had the bit between his teeth for the first time. He actually threw himself about a bit and used his size.

I can see why Meyer was a defensive midfielder at Schalke. He receives the ball with his back to goal amd turns so well. With Luka in that role, though, I sort of keep wondering what our new recruit is as a player.

I think Meyer can do some of what Cabaye did but also create and worry opposition defences. Some of his stuff in the box almost came off and he and Wilf are on the same wavelength. With our lack of creativity, goals, strikers, RLC and whatever else (Wilf going at some point), it makes sense to tap into this.

Luka shielding the back 4 and Meyer further forward? Then there’s kouyate either on standby or in place Luka.

I wonder if Meyer can play wider in a 3 further forward. Or wide in a midfield 4, but not as a winger, but working with PVA or Bissaka, both
Talented ball players.

Or just keep it simple and have him as the number 10 in a 4-2-3-1. The number 10 we’ve never had. However, Roy probably won’t play 4-2-3-1, but it can be careful and conservative with the 2 midfielders and all 3 in front being disciplined. Tony Pulis’s team?

I suppose there’s the danger of a ‘jack of all trades, master of none’ happening though if a player doesn’t have a regular position.


Edited by Rudi Hedman (29 Oct 2018 8.34am)

 


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Willo Flag South coast - west of Brighton. 29 Oct 18 8.33am Send a Private Message to Willo Add Willo as a friend

Originally posted by Rudi Hedman

I think Meyer can do some of what Cabaye did but also create and worry opposition defences. Some of his stuff in the box almost came off and he and Wilf are on the same wavelength. With our lack of creativity, goals, strikers, RLC and whatever else (Wilf going at some point), it makes sense to tap into this.

Luka shielding the back 4 and Meyer further forward? Then there’s kouyate either on standby or in place Luka.

I wonder if Meyer can play wider in a 3 further forward. Or wide in a midfield 4, but not as a winger, but working with PVA or Bissaka, both
Talented ball players.

I suppose there’s the danger of a ‘jack of all trades, master of none’ happening though if a player doesn’t have a regular position.

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Rudi Hedman Flag Caterham 29 Oct 18 8.43am Send a Private Message to Rudi Hedman Add Rudi Hedman as a friend

I added the number 10 role in a 4-2-3-1 just as you posted that link. That may solve a lot of our problems. Conservatism of 2 midfielders who can operate as def mids, a counter attacking set up and plenty of able players to attack in possession with the number 10 as well as on the counter.

Roy may need to change up his regular methods.

Schalke have a higher expectancy than we do. He didn’t have a problem with the speed yesterday when attacking the box. He was dangerous and he made others dangerous. We need creativity and something needs to happen to make us creative, dangerous and less predictable, relying on that ‘we might get a chance at 0-0’ philosophy. Actually when players sit back at Selhurst it can be slower but challenging to break them down. We’ll see. But he’s too good to not play, which is ultra frustrating, which Roy is. No problem if the results are more than good.

Edited by Rudi Hedman (29 Oct 2018 8.47am)

 


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Sportyteacher Flag London 29 Oct 18 10.53am Send a Private Message to Sportyteacher Add Sportyteacher as a friend

Originally posted by The Dolphin

16 shots to us but only 3 on target!

Story of our season sonar given quality lack of striker support however great battling back result for creditable draw against team towards v. top of the table.

 

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Willo Flag South coast - west of Brighton. 29 Oct 18 11.38am Send a Private Message to Willo Add Willo as a friend

Originally posted by PZ Eagle

No wonder the big clubs didn't want VAR. Two officials and neither saw the handball by Lacazette.

We were one of the clubs who voted against it's introduction this season.Liverpool were in favour of it.

 

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Mapletree Flag Croydon 29 Oct 18 11.45am Send a Private Message to Mapletree Add Mapletree as a friend

Originally posted by Wilbraham413

Wilf does so much better against top clubs because they aren't kicking him for 90 minutes. He actually gets space to do his thing.

Funny, I saw a lot of spoiling play from Arsenal, taking it in turns to foul Wilf, especially later in the game. I must have been watching a different match.

Edited by Mapletree (29 Oct 2018 11.45am)

 

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A89M Flag Streatham 29 Oct 18 11.50am Send a Private Message to A89M Add A89M as a friend

The kicking they still do, it's the space they allow him to have as the top clubs don't double and sometimes triple up on him like the lesser sides have done in the past.

One on One Wilf is trouble for any top defender.

 

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PZ Eagle Flag Penzance 29 Oct 18 11.53am Send a Private Message to PZ Eagle Add PZ Eagle as a friend

Originally posted by Willo

We were one of the clubs who voted against it's introduction this season.Liverpool were in favour of it.

So did Man C, Man utd, Spurs, Arsenal vote against then?

 


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