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eagleman13 On The Road To Hell & Alicante 18 Oct 18 5.23pm
Originally posted by FairweatherEagle Good point - the club could get into real trouble if someone does point out the persistent standing in block E now. If the ejectees get disgruntled enough they could just go to the authorities and point out that the club has effectively made their old patch a standing section. Could cause the club big problems. Closure of the whole LH is/would be a real possibility. This operation, will make the 'Charge Of The Light Brigade' seem like a simple military exercise.
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On The Road To Hell & Alicante 18 Oct 18 5.23pm

Originally posted by FairweatherEagle

Good point - the club could get into real trouble if someone does point out the persistent standing in block E now. If the ejectees get disgruntled enough they could just go to the authorities and point out that the club has effectively made their old patch a standing section.
Could cause the club big problems.

Closure of the whole LH is/would be a real possibility.

This operation, will make the 'Charge Of The Light Brigade' seem like a simple military exercise.

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dreamwaverider London 18 Oct 18 5.58pm
Originally posted by Palace in the Blood I did read with a completely open mind. SP has ultimately to take blame for the problems that now exist. It doesn't matter where you stand on the HF or a singing section but I think everyone agrees the situation from start to current position has been mismanaged. The question is why? and Who ? and are they held responsible. The fact is that only a very small part of support was consulted. So does the Singing section have support and active support (people who want to take part). How big is that active support among existing supporters? Without this vital info no part of ground should have been allocated. There are a lot of potential scenarios that could now exist including refusal of planning permission to new stand, Refusal of permission to take part in a safe standing trial. Closure of Lower Holmesdale on safety grounds. The Fact is only time will tell and a lot will depend on behaviour of the Singing section. What if the season ticket holders who have 25 year tickets challenge these changes in Courts? and win? The fact is with the proper consultation the disruption would have been minimised. Are you having a bad day or life PitB? You are full of real downers. Brighten up pal. Everyone can still come to the games. Ok maybe watch from a different seat but hey ho still be at the Palace so who really cares? Everyone will still get their ‘fix’ and keep Palace in their blood. There really are much bigger things to worry about. Like making Europe or even Champions league.
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Originally posted by Palace in the Blood

I did read with a completely open mind. SP has ultimately to take blame for the problems that now exist. It doesn't matter where you stand on the HF or a singing section but I think everyone agrees the situation from start to current position has been mismanaged. The question is why? and Who ? and are they held responsible.

The fact is that only a very small part of support was consulted. So does the Singing section have support and active support (people who want to take part). How big is that active support among existing supporters? Without this vital info no part of ground should have been allocated.

There are a lot of potential scenarios that could now exist including refusal of planning permission to new stand, Refusal of permission to take part in a safe standing trial. Closure of Lower Holmesdale on safety grounds. The Fact is only time will tell and a lot will depend on behaviour of the Singing section.

What if the season ticket holders who have 25 year tickets challenge these changes in Courts? and win? The fact is with the proper consultation the disruption would have been minimised.

Are you having a bad day or life PitB? You are full of real downers. Brighten up pal. Everyone can still come to the games. Ok maybe watch from a different seat but hey ho still be at the Palace so who really cares? Everyone will still get their ‘fix’ and keep Palace in their blood. There really are much bigger things to worry about. Like making Europe or even Champions league.

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scuffy orpington 18 Oct 18 6.04pm
What happens when flares are let off by HF first game after they return and the club has to take action? Do they then throw their dummies out the pram again and say "we're not coming" to the next game? Who actually runs this club now? What does one actually have to do to get approval to join the HF's singing section? X-factor style auditions? who has access to the best fireworks? who's got the most black in their wardrobe? It's a complete joke...an all-inclusive singing section should be exactly that.......all-inclusive...not the sole property of a bunch of jumped-up little pricks...
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orpington 18 Oct 18 6.04pm

What happens when flares are let off by HF first game after they return and the club has to take action? Do they then throw their dummies out the pram again and say "we're not coming" to the next game? Who actually runs this club now?

What does one actually have to do to get approval to join the HF's singing section? X-factor style auditions? who has access to the best fireworks? who's got the most black in their wardrobe?

It's a complete joke...an all-inclusive singing section should be exactly that.......all-inclusive...not the sole property of a bunch of jumped-up little pricks...

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thegreatlardino crawley/selsey 18 Oct 18 6.20pm
i dont get this at all now, do you have to audition x factor style to apply for this section? if you cant get to the game do you have to have a nominated a substitute singer for your seat or will the club place a suitably qualified person in your place? As for this guff about the crowd being the 12th man, so the lack of the HF meant Sakho missed the net against Newcastle?? a tad bemused! Edited by thegreatlardino (18 Oct 2018 6.20pm) Sometimes I set out for Ludlow Sometimes I end up in Chepstow
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i dont get this at all now, do you have to audition x factor style to apply for this section? if you cant get to the game do you have to have a nominated a substitute singer for your seat or will the club place a suitably qualified person in your place?
As for this guff about the crowd being the 12th man, so the lack of the HF meant Sakho missed the net against Newcastle??
a tad bemused!

Edited by thegreatlardino (18 Oct 2018 6.20pm)

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Sometimes I end up in Chepstow

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Ginger Pubic Wig Wickham de L'Ouest 18 Oct 18 6.34pm
can't the club just say no numbered tickets any more? 4500 seats, 4500 fans...sort yourselves out but any aggro and yer banned If you want to live in a world full of kindness, respect and love, try to show these qualities.
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can't the club just say no numbered tickets any more? 4500 seats, 4500 fans...sort yourselves out but any aggro and yer banned

If you want to live in a world full of kindness, respect and love, try to show these qualities.

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scuffy orpington 18 Oct 18 6.35pm
it's worse than that........at least X Factor style auditions would be transparent and open to all! Could even air it on Palace TV! Originally posted by thegreatlardino i dont get this at all now, do you have to audition x factor style to apply for this section? if you cant get to the game do you have to have a nominated a substitute singer for your seat or will the club place a suitably qualified person in your place? As for this guff about the crowd being the 12th man, so the lack of the HF meant Sakho missed the net against Newcastle?? a tad bemused! Edited by thegreatlardino (18 Oct 2018 6.20pm)
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orpington 18 Oct 18 6.35pm

it's worse than that........at least X Factor style auditions would be transparent and open to all! Could even air it on Palace TV!

Originally posted by thegreatlardino

Edited by thegreatlardino (18 Oct 2018 6.20pm)

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scuffy orpington 18 Oct 18 6.38pm
how do you get in the HF anyway? Do you have to do some kind of ritual? Is it like the Masons?
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orpington 18 Oct 18 6.38pm

how do you get in the HF anyway? Do you have to do some kind of ritual? Is it like the Masons?

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eagleman13 On The Road To Hell & Alicante 18 Oct 18 7.01pm
Originally posted by scuffy how do you get in the HF anyway? Do you have to do some kind of ritual? Is it like the Masons? Nah, that's easy. I, for my sins, know an HF & he's Polish. Been a member for 2 seasons now, was an ST holder, but not been to a game since 'The Troubles' Think you have to have the right kind of Black & able to march in time to the drum, just guessing tho This operation, will make the 'Charge Of The Light Brigade' seem like a simple military exercise.
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Originally posted by scuffy

how do you get in the HF anyway? Do you have to do some kind of ritual? Is it like the Masons?

Nah, that's easy.

I, for my sins, know an HF & he's Polish. Been a member for 2 seasons now, was an ST holder, but not been to a game since 'The Troubles' Think you have to have the right kind of Black & able to march in time to the drum, just guessing tho

This operation, will make the 'Charge Of The Light Brigade' seem like a simple military exercise.

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stujii 18 Oct 18 7.49pm
Originally posted by Ginger Pubic Wig can't the club just say no numbered tickets any more? 4500 seats, 4500 fans...sort yourselves out but any aggro and yer banned Totally agree....the earlier you get to the game the better choice of seat, first come first served
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18 Oct 18 7.49pm

Originally posted by Ginger Pubic Wig

can't the club just say no numbered tickets any more? 4500 seats, 4500 fans...sort yourselves out but any aggro and yer banned

Totally agree....the earlier you get to the game the better choice of seat, first come first served

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Ginger Pubic Wig Wickham de L'Ouest 18 Oct 18 9.31pm
Originally posted by stujii Totally agree....the earlier you get to the game the better choice of seat, first come first served is there any precedent for it? is it legal? If you want to live in a world full of kindness, respect and love, try to show these qualities.
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Wickham de L'Ouest 18 Oct 18 9.31pm

Originally posted by stujii

Totally agree....the earlier you get to the game the better choice of seat, first come first served

is there any precedent for it? is it legal?

If you want to live in a world full of kindness, respect and love, try to show these qualities.

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BobRoberts Croydon 18 Oct 18 9.40pm
Sorry if covered before. Assuming these block E tickets are only available via the HF I do hope they have an equalities policy. I would hate the think the club is offerings tickets out that I as a BAME, Trans, differently abled, refuge would be discriminated against getting, by the unconscious bias of the HF when choosing who gets a ticket. I wonder if I was, would I have a case of action against the club?
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Croydon 18 Oct 18 9.40pm

Sorry if covered before. Assuming these block E tickets are only available via the HF I do hope they have an equalities policy. I would hate the think the club is offerings tickets out that I as a BAME, Trans, differently abled, refuge would be discriminated against getting, by the unconscious bias of the HF when choosing who gets a ticket. I wonder if I was, would I have a case of action against the club?

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becky over the moon 18 Oct 18 11.13pm
Originally posted by BobRoberts Sorry if covered before. Assuming these block E tickets are only available via the HF I do hope they have an equalities policy. I would hate the think the club is offerings tickets out that I as a BAME, Trans, differently abled, refuge would be discriminated against getting, by the unconscious bias of the HF when choosing who gets a ticket. I wonder if I was, would I have a case of action against the club? Oi! don't forget us lot too ......haven't actually seen too many women in the former HF section either. A stairway to Heaven and a Highway to Hell give some indication of expected traffic numbers
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over the moon 18 Oct 18 11.13pm

Originally posted by BobRoberts

Sorry if covered before. Assuming these block E tickets are only available via the HF I do hope they have an equalities policy. I would hate the think the club is offerings tickets out that I as a BAME, Trans, differently abled, refuge would be discriminated against getting, by the unconscious bias of the HF when choosing who gets a ticket. I wonder if I was, would I have a case of action against the club?

Oi! don't forget us lot too ......haven't actually seen too many women in the former HF section either.

A stairway to Heaven and a Highway to Hell give some indication of expected traffic numbers

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