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Stirlingsays 18 Oct 17 6.29pm | |
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Originally posted by Rudi Hedman
My father hardly brought me up but I knew what you were saying to begin with. Saying to someone black that you hope their parents don't bring Ebola from their native country is in the grey area that's not suit to suit or the conversation at a civilised adult party or dinner party. I bet loads of people have worked in environments where inappropriate comments were unacceptable Monday to Friday at work but when they open the changing room door the rules change and loads of inappropriate garbage spills out from those who'd rather not have to think of what they say. You notice how some keep quiet when some of the cr@p from some tools comes out. No I don't change my words according to size, but at times you do size someone up. Many people do. I don't 'fear' many people at all but I can certainly gauge if someone could take me out if that's a possible path. A recent car parking argument with some t1t recently whereby the thought of him pulling a dangerous weapon due to his confidence didn't seem worth continuing the argument where he was in the wrong. Mentioning the colour recently was of significance. Also, if you're going to narrow it down, what do you say, the guy with the Afro hair or other certain Afro Caribbean features that might cause offence because there's history of it. All this tells me....is something I knew anyway. People of low self esteem or ethics will latch onto any crumb they can to gain an advantage. They have no sense of honour about it....they will play any card available to them to gain advantage. While the system allows it they will do it. That's how I see the nonsense with skin colour. If someone is genuinely mistreating another person because of skin pigment then over time a lot of people will end up knowing it.....I've worked with people over time and you find out stuff. No one is perfect and for some people race matters more to them than it should. But, I can only think of two people I ever worked with like that.....and they weren't in charge of anybody. However.....when it comes to....how some probable chipper victim twerp reacting to a jokey reference to skin colour....sorry mate...not for me. That may be a world you feel is an acceptable environment but to me that becomes an environment of fear and neurotic witch hunting. Like I said when this situation first came out and it became obvious that the FA were pathetically leaving their manager out to dry....any man looking to take over that job is a moron looking for trouble. Edited by Stirlingsays (18 Oct 2017 6.31pm)
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Willo South coast - west of Brighton. 18 Oct 17 6.37pm | |
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Originally posted by pefwin
You don't travel much. Never ever joke with immigration, custom, or security control, it will only end in tears. With respect I wasn't thinking about Immigration, Customs or Security Control when I referred to local person.
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nickgusset Shizzlehurst 18 Oct 17 6.50pm | |
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Stirlingsays 18 Oct 17 7.05pm | |
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Originally posted by nickgusset
[Tweet Link] Stormzy.....you're pasting the thoughts of Stormzy?? Who next...Mickey Mouse on Brexit? Edited by Stirlingsays (18 Oct 2017 7.06pm)
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Midlands Eagle 18 Oct 17 7.20pm | |
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Originally posted by Rudi Hedman
Saying to someone black that you hope their parents don't bring Ebola from their native country is in the grey area that's not suit to suit or the conversation at a civilised adult party or dinner party. I don't see that as racist or even a grey area at all. What if Ebola had been in France and someone said to Yohan Cabaye that they hoped his family didn't bring Ebola over with them. Would that still be considered racist?
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Stirlingsays 18 Oct 17 7.38pm | |
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Originally posted by DanH
Go on, elaborate. Seeing you seem to know me so well. All surface....I don't know him, I don't know you. But don't you see the irony in you moaning about my judgement in preferring his views to yours on matters like this..... when you had no issues judging me as Watson? On matters like this you were right to see my views as similar to Watson's on matters like this. But if you don't like judgements, don't make any yourself. I think I'm right to judging your views as negative for society in this matter. I've said why in previous posts. Edited by Stirlingsays (18 Oct 2017 7.49pm)
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Rudi Hedman Caterham 18 Oct 17 8.00pm | |
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It's something you might hear in a comprehensive school playground, a blue colour environment, or from one of many t1ts in a football changing room. It's not something you're going to hear very often in an office professional environment or I wouldn't have thought the school staff room or the changing rooms in private schools. If you did there'd probably be a word in the ear, similar to what should've happened in the case of this woman, some reeducation of racist or inappropriate remarks, or stern warnings. I have some sympathy for him but he's managing the England women's team, not a local hungover Sunday team full of gutter language where anything goes. It's been a few years since Moody and Mackay's textgate so the FA are of course not going to risk having its image tainted further. The biggest crime to me is that it was unfunny and lacking any wit, just like a lot of football player banter. But the point is that it would be inappropriate in a lot of today's working environments, usually with higher socio economic groups who they want to attract more so don't be surprised if the FA think behaviour is inappropriate and can be easily dispensed with.
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Stirlingsays 18 Oct 17 8.08pm | |
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Originally posted by Rudi Hedman
It's something you might hear in a comprehensive school playground, a blue colour environment, or from one of many t1ts in a football changing room. It's not something you're going to hear very often in an office professional environment or I wouldn't have thought the school staff room or the changing rooms in private schools. If you did there'd probably be a word in the ear, similar to what should've happened in the case of this woman, some reeducation of racist or inappropriate remarks, or stern warnings. I have some sympathy for him but he's managing the England women's team, not a local hungover Sunday team full of gutter language where anything goes. It's been a few years since Moody and Mackay's textgate so the FA are of course not going to risk having its image tainted further. The biggest crime to me is that it was unfunny and lacking any wit, just like a lot of football player banter. But the point is that it would be inappropriate in a lot of today's working environments, usually with higher socio economic groups who they want to attract more so don't be surprised if the FA think behaviour is inappropriate and can be easily dispensed with. I'm a social libertarian and while you are entitled to your views. I find them sanctimonious and puritan in nature. If you want to behave in a certain manner great, if I want to behave in a certain manner great. If someone is genuinely vitimizing another then lets take this to a court. But you can keep your thought and speech police away from me. There is no crime here as far as I see...throwaway comments that have been latched onto for money. No crime on the books or even in theory. The FA won't even be honest for legal reasons for why they fired him. I hope this guy takes these arseholes for every penny he can. I truly do.
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nickgusset Shizzlehurst 18 Oct 17 8.23pm | |
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Originally posted by Stirlingsays
Stormzy.....you're pasting the thoughts of Stormzy?? Who next...Mickey Mouse on Brexit? Edited by Stirlingsays (18 Oct 2017 7.06pm) Voice of the yoot innit blud. Mickey Mouse on Brexit? You mean Davenotamonkey ? Edited by nickgusset (18 Oct 2017 8.24pm)
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Hrolf The Ganger 18 Oct 17 8.30pm | |
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Originally posted by nickgusset
Voice of the yoot innit blud. Mickey Mouse on Brexit? You mean Davenotamonkey ? Edited by nickgusset (18 Oct 2017 8.24pm) Oh the irony.
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Hrolf The Ganger 18 Oct 17 8.37pm | |
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Originally posted by Rudi Hedman
What has your rude response got to do with me responding to Stirling? It was made to a black person regarding a disease from a Black Country. The possibility of it coming from another predominantly Black Country with a white minority in a predominantly black continent isn't the issue. He put his foot in his mouth and as football is trying to remove unnecessary digs at minorities they either have to accept it or lose out on the gravy train. What rude response? You are totally missing the point. The person could be from anywhere, any colour and it could be any contagious disease. Like I said, if she had been White we would not be having this conversation. The whole thing is political bulls***. The 'race' card has been well and truly played. Edited by Hrolf The Ganger (18 Oct 2017 8.38pm)
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nickgusset Shizzlehurst 18 Oct 17 8.37pm | |
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Originally posted by Stirlingsays
I'm a social libertarian and while you are entitled to your views. I find them sanctimonious and puritan in nature. If you want to behave in a certain manner great, if I want to behave in a certain manner great. If someone is genuinely vitimizing another then lets take this to a court. But you can keep your thought and speech police away from me. There is no crime here as far as I see...throwaway comments that have been latched onto for money. No crime on the books or even in theory. The FA won't even be honest for legal reasons for why they fired him. I hope this guy takes these arseholes for every penny he can. I truly do.
High number of black deaths at hands of police results in protests by NFL players. Focus on NFL players protesting rather than black deaths. Check. High powered high profile business man sexually assaults women , admits on tape. Many come forward as victims. Happens to become POTUS with many questionable views regarding race and gender . Not a dicky bird. Check Likes EDL mission statement. Check. Have I missed anything Stirling. There's a bit of a pattern emerging.
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