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Rudi Hedman Caterham 02 Sep 17 5.22pm
Originally posted by majorkaios Indeed nice post thanks, I am so glad we have a Chairman who has ambition, that is, in the long run, a desire to maintain a regular position in the top tier. Looking towards our talented youth, it's clear to see that's the way forward. So I am happy to back Steves decision to Install FDB as manager, He has proven track record towards youngsters as do all the Dutch Managers. When Sir Steve first came here he was totally green, with no other experience in running a club. We backed him cos He gave youth a chance and look at that, 2 of that crop are today International Team Managers. Sir Steve was a great gritty Winger and an International player in his day. It takes a great player to inspire the success that comes from overcoming our failings. Sir Steve Coppell did not bring instant success, it was a sporadic roller coaster. But what a great period that was. Our DNA is not about instant gratification or caring what our mates say about my team's failures. I'm so proud the team I support, managed to produce 2 players that went on to be International Team managers, as well as numerous Home Grown International squad players. Amazing if you look at the stadium and facilities we had then. It's not much better now, and that's why I agree with SP, we need to look to our Youth. I have faith in such a player as FDB, to inspire the team we have. Wish I could say the same for our fans. Who on whole seem brainwashed in thinking the modern way is about fast instant success or else !!! OUT. I hope Steve has the courage to stay on the plan. I'd rather Parish's plan than your's. Stick with Frank no matter what. Relegation, under 10 points. You've made that clear. COYP
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Rudi Hedman

Caterham 02 Sep 17 5.22pm

Originally posted by majorkaios

Indeed nice post thanks, I am so glad we have a Chairman who has ambition, that is, in the long run, a desire to maintain a regular position in the top tier.

Looking towards our talented youth, it's clear to see that's the way forward. So I am happy to back Steves decision to Install FDB as manager, He has proven track record towards youngsters as do all the Dutch Managers.

When Sir Steve first came here he was totally green, with no other experience in running a club. We backed him cos He gave youth a chance and look at that, 2 of that crop are today International Team Managers. Sir Steve was a great gritty Winger and an International player in his day. It takes a great player to inspire the success that comes from overcoming our failings. Sir Steve Coppell did not bring instant success, it was a sporadic roller coaster. But what a great period that was.

Our DNA is not about instant gratification or caring what our mates say about my team's failures. I'm so proud the team I support, managed to produce 2 players that went on to be International Team managers, as well as numerous Home Grown International squad players. Amazing if you look at the stadium and facilities we had then. It's not much better now, and that's why I agree with SP, we need to look to our Youth.

I have faith in such a player as FDB, to inspire the team we have. Wish I could say the same for our fans. Who on whole seem brainwashed in thinking the modern way is about fast instant success or else !!! OUT.

I hope Steve has the courage to stay on the plan.

I'd rather Parish's plan than your's. Stick with Frank no matter what. Relegation, under 10 points. You've made that clear.

COYP

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Painter Croydon 02 Sep 17 6.16pm
Originally posted by TheExpatEagle Nobody else has done so I will, it was 1969 when we got promoted to the top flight for the first time. We lived on Park Road at the time though I wasn't born until a year later. That aside I would disagree that Parish is the best chairman we've had in my time but it all depends what we are judging him by. Money? Success? Stature? Arguably the 89-93 period would trump Parish on all 3 had the money been the same. Pick a film, any major film and they roll on about how successful it is. All based on money not ticket sales. And as we know cinema tickets are more today than before. So Parish's success is being viewed through concave glass though nothing can take away that we are in the top flight for a 5th year, which is a record for us. But remember 2 years ago when he was sprouting on about us being in the most successful period ever having survived more than one season in the PL? Until he kept getting pulled up over the fact football wasn't invented in 1992! Some people believe the hype, some don't. Noades oversaw that period, he was good at spotting players, but his bad points far outweigh his good point. He openly was taking £1m a year for himself out of the club. Singlehandedly broke the team up by disenfranchising the black players at the time with his comments, so most left. Sold the club, but held the club back but holding onto the freehold. But for some reason you think he was our best chairman?
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Croydon 02 Sep 17 6.16pm

Originally posted by TheExpatEagle

Nobody else has done so I will, it was 1969 when we got promoted to the top flight for the first time. We lived on Park Road at the time though I wasn't born until a year later.

That aside I would disagree that Parish is the best chairman we've had in my time but it all depends what we are judging him by.

Money? Success? Stature?

Arguably the 89-93 period would trump Parish on all 3 had the money been the same.

Pick a film, any major film and they roll on about how successful it is. All based on money not ticket sales. And as we know cinema tickets are more today than before.

So Parish's success is being viewed through concave glass though nothing can take away that we are in the top flight for a 5th year, which is a record for us.

But remember 2 years ago when he was sprouting on about us being in the most successful period ever having survived more than one season in the PL?

Until he kept getting pulled up over the fact football wasn't invented in 1992!

Some people believe the hype, some don't.

Noades oversaw that period, he was good at spotting players, but his bad points far outweigh his good point.
He openly was taking £1m a year for himself out of the club.
Singlehandedly broke the team up by disenfranchising the black players at the time with his comments, so most left.
Sold the club, but held the club back but holding onto the freehold.
But for some reason you think he was our best chairman?

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Midlands Eagle 02 Sep 17 6.28pm
Originally posted by Painter Noades oversaw that period, he was good at spotting players, but his bad points far outweigh his good point. He openly was taking £1m a year for himself out of the club. Singlehandedly broke the team up by disenfranchising the black players at the time with his comments, so most left. Sold the club, but held the club back but holding onto the freehold. But for some reason you think he was our best chairman? Oddly enough others don't see Noades in quite the poor light that you do. You claim that "he disenfranchised the black players at the time with his comments, so most left. The Independent remembers it a little differently Quote The previous year Noades was accused of racism after a Channel 4 documentary. Palace’s black players, he said, “lent skill and flair”, but, he added: “You also need white players in there to balance things up and give the team some brains and some common sense.” He claimed he was “stitched up”, with the quotes taken out of context. At best the remarks appeared injudicious and naive, although Noades remained friendly with black players such as Gray, Wright and Bright You also claim that he held the club back by selling it but holding on to the freehold. More fool Mark Goldberg for buying it on that basis You finished with one of your typical snidey comments "But for some reason you think he was our best chairman?" but if you read the post properly you will see that he was referring to success under Noades not whether or not he was our best Chairman and there is no doubt that the Noades era was our golden era
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Originally posted by Painter

Oddly enough others don't see Noades in quite the poor light that you do.

You claim that "he disenfranchised the black players at the time with his comments, so most left.

The Independent remembers it a little differently

Quote The previous year Noades was accused of racism after a Channel 4 documentary. Palace’s black players, he said, “lent skill and flair”, but, he added: “You also need white players in there to balance things up and give the team some brains and some common sense.” He claimed he was “stitched up”, with the quotes taken out of context. At best the remarks appeared injudicious and naive, although Noades remained friendly with black players such as Gray, Wright and Bright

You also claim that he held the club back by selling it but holding on to the freehold.

More fool Mark Goldberg for buying it on that basis

You finished with one of your typical snidey comments "But for some reason you think he was our best chairman?" but if you read the post properly you will see that he was referring to success under Noades not whether or not he was our best Chairman and there is no doubt that the Noades era was our golden era

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Goldfiinger Just down the road 02 Sep 17 6.44pm
The independent didn't say different, the independent said Noades said his comments were taken out of context. Which is a hugely different thing. Of course Noades is gonna deny he's a racist. And then you releave Noades of blame over the ground by just blaming it all on Goldberg. Ok yeah talk about rose tinted glasses... Edited by Goldfiinger (02 Sep 2017 6.47pm)
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Just down the road 02 Sep 17 6.44pm

The independent didn't say different, the independent said Noades said his comments were taken out of context. Which is a hugely different thing.

Of course Noades is gonna deny he's a racist.

And then you releave Noades of blame over the ground by just blaming it all on Goldberg. Ok yeah talk about rose tinted glasses...

Edited by Goldfiinger (02 Sep 2017 6.47pm)

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Midlands Eagle 02 Sep 17 7.00pm
Originally posted by Goldfiinger And then you releave Noades of blame over the ground by just blaming it all on Goldberg. Ok yeah talk about rose tinted glasses... If you walk into Sainsbury and pick up three mouldy peaches to buy is that your fault or Sainsbury's? Buying a company is exactly the same and it is ALWAYS down to the buyer to perform due diligence. Ron Noades saw that Goldberg was a naïve mug and took advantage of it. I assume that the comment about wearing rose tinted glasses was just the next in line to be used from your book of clichés as it's as ridiculous as it is inaccurate
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Midlands Eagle

02 Sep 17 7.00pm

Originally posted by Goldfiinger

And then you releave Noades of blame over the ground by just blaming it all on Goldberg. Ok yeah talk about rose tinted glasses...

If you walk into Sainsbury and pick up three mouldy peaches to buy is that your fault or Sainsbury's?

Buying a company is exactly the same and it is ALWAYS down to the buyer to perform due diligence. Ron Noades saw that Goldberg was a naïve mug and took advantage of it.

I assume that the comment about wearing rose tinted glasses was just the next in line to be used from your book of clichés as it's as ridiculous as it is inaccurate

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Goldfiinger Just down the road 02 Sep 17 7.04pm
Originally posted by Midlands Eagle If you walk into Sainsbury and pick up three mouldy peaches to buy is that your fault or Sainsbury's? Buying a company is exactly the same and it is ALWAYS down to the buyer to perform due diligence. Ron Noades saw that Goldberg was a naïve mug and took advantage of it. I assume that the comment about wearing rose tinted glasses was just the next in line to be used from your book of clichés as it's as ridiculous as it is inaccurate Completely agree. But I'd also say that it showed that Noades gave not two f***ers about Palace. Goldberg shouldn't have done that deal and if Noades wanted to do right by Palace he shouldn't have either. Just becuase Goldberg was foolish doesn't releave Noades of the shocking state he left Palace in. Oh but let's forget that and just blame Goldberg. Ok !
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Just down the road 02 Sep 17 7.04pm

Originally posted by Midlands Eagle

If you walk into Sainsbury and pick up three mouldy peaches to buy is that your fault or Sainsbury's?

Buying a company is exactly the same and it is ALWAYS down to the buyer to perform due diligence. Ron Noades saw that Goldberg was a naïve mug and took advantage of it.

I assume that the comment about wearing rose tinted glasses was just the next in line to be used from your book of clichés as it's as ridiculous as it is inaccurate

Completely agree.

But I'd also say that it showed that Noades gave not two f***ers about Palace.

Goldberg shouldn't have done that deal and if Noades wanted to do right by Palace he shouldn't have either.

Just becuase Goldberg was foolish doesn't releave Noades of the shocking state he left Palace in.

Oh but let's forget that and just blame Goldberg.

Ok !

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Rachid Rachid Rachid 02 Sep 17 8.32pm
Originally posted by Midlands Eagle You also claim that he held the club back by selling it but holding on to the freehold. More fool Mark Goldberg for buying it on that basis You finished with one of your typical snidey comments "But for some reason you think he was our best chairman?" but if you read the post properly you will see that he was referring to success under Noades not whether or not he was our best Chairman and there is no doubt that the Noades era was our golden era He also missed the biggest opportunity in the clubs history to become great. He struck gold with Steve Coppell at the time and with a bit of investment we'd have challenged the very best.
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Originally posted by Midlands Eagle

You also claim that he held the club back by selling it but holding on to the freehold.

More fool Mark Goldberg for buying it on that basis

He also missed the biggest opportunity in the clubs history to become great.

He struck gold with Steve Coppell at the time and with a bit of investment we'd have challenged the very best.

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collier row eagle romford essex via another galaxy 02 Sep 17 10.51pm
Originally posted by Kermit8 89-93 was more successful as we came third and had our very first FA Cup final appearance when that competition still meant a lot. We are now having our 5th year in the premierships not talking about one season, talking about a period of success
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romford essex via another galaxy 02 Sep 17 10.51pm

Originally posted by Kermit8

89-93 was more successful as we came third and had our very first FA Cup final appearance when that competition still meant a lot.

We are now having our 5th year in the premierships not talking about one season, talking about a period of success

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Dan89 Se25 02 Sep 17 11.13pm
Our great chairman considering sacking de Boer after 4 games. Let that sink in. Another Damien Diagonal - Total Football
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Se25 02 Sep 17 11.13pm

Our great chairman considering sacking de Boer after 4 games. Let that sink in.

Another Damien Diagonal - Total Football

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TheExpatEagle 02 Sep 17 11.21pm
Originally posted by Dangermouse So if you're saying they walked because of the transfer budget, what exactly is the problem? You employ a manager and tell him he has x amount to spend. If he doesn't like it and has no faith in his coaching ability he leaves. Should we then throw money at him that we haven't got? Sam retired, he's never intimated anything else that I've heard. Think he'll be back though, it's in his blood. So, are you assuming that BFS or anyone else up to Klopp and Pepe would be able to coach Mutch, Delaney, Ward, Lee, Ledley, Hennessey and so on to be players to get us to mid-table? It is an over used term but you can't polish a turd. Delaney and Speroni were resigned without BFS knowing and didn't approve. He wanted their wages freed to use for when other players came in. Parish "agreed" with BFS that they would bring in "1 maybe 2" players when BFS knew we needed more. Parish set a budget of £30m plus any money we could raise from sales. BFS knew that would not be enough especially as the main target was Sakho. BFS could see Parish wouldn't be swayed so instead of arguing and getting nowhere, he retired. There was no close family member involved in the Manchester bombing. He made his decision after the Hull game and they began to plan for the summer. All of this can be heard in various interviews either on TV or on the radio. The difference is now other people in the media are quoting this to be the case too.
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02 Sep 17 11.21pm

Originally posted by Dangermouse

So if you're saying they walked because of the transfer budget, what exactly is the problem? You employ a manager and tell him he has x amount to spend. If he doesn't like it and has no faith in his coaching ability he leaves. Should we then throw money at him that we haven't got?
Sam retired, he's never intimated anything else that I've heard. Think he'll be back though, it's in his blood.

So, are you assuming that BFS or anyone else up to Klopp and Pepe would be able to coach Mutch, Delaney, Ward, Lee, Ledley, Hennessey and so on to be players to get us to mid-table?

It is an over used term but you can't polish a turd.

Delaney and Speroni were resigned without BFS knowing and didn't approve. He wanted their wages freed to use for when other players came in.

Parish "agreed" with BFS that they would bring in "1 maybe 2" players when BFS knew we needed more. Parish set a budget of £30m plus any money we could raise from sales. BFS knew that would not be enough especially as the main target was Sakho.

BFS could see Parish wouldn't be swayed so instead of arguing and getting nowhere, he retired.

There was no close family member involved in the Manchester bombing. He made his decision after the Hull game and they began to plan for the summer.

All of this can be heard in various interviews either on TV or on the radio. The difference is now other people in the media are quoting this to be the case too.

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Rachid Rachid Rachid 02 Sep 17 11.38pm
Originally posted by TheExpatEagle So, are you assuming that BFS or anyone else up to Klopp and Pepe would be able to coach Mutch, Delaney, Ward, Lee, Ledley, Hennessey and so on to be players to get us to mid-table? It is an over used term but you can't polish a turd. Delaney and Speroni were resigned without BFS knowing and didn't approve. He wanted their wages freed to use for when other players came in. Parish "agreed" with BFS that they would bring in "1 maybe 2" players when BFS knew we needed more. Parish set a budget of £30m plus any money we could raise from sales. BFS knew that would not be enough especially as the main target was Sakho. BFS could see Parish wouldn't be swayed so instead of arguing and getting nowhere, he retired. There was no close family member involved in the Manchester bombing. He made his decision after the Hull game and they began to plan for the summer. All of this can be heard in various interviews either on TV or on the radio. The difference is now other people in the media are quoting this to be the case too. Who were the interviews with ?
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02 Sep 17 11.38pm

Originally posted by TheExpatEagle

So, are you assuming that BFS or anyone else up to Klopp and Pepe would be able to coach Mutch, Delaney, Ward, Lee, Ledley, Hennessey and so on to be players to get us to mid-table?

It is an over used term but you can't polish a turd.

Delaney and Speroni were resigned without BFS knowing and didn't approve. He wanted their wages freed to use for when other players came in.

BFS could see Parish wouldn't be swayed so instead of arguing and getting nowhere, he retired.

There was no close family member involved in the Manchester bombing. He made his decision after the Hull game and they began to plan for the summer.

All of this can be heard in various interviews either on TV or on the radio. The difference is now other people in the media are quoting this to be the case too.

Who were the interviews with ?

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gambler Kent 03 Sep 17 1.55am
Originally posted by Dan89 Our great chairman considering sacking de Boer after 4 games. Let that sink in. And if the rumours are to be believed replacing him with Roy f***ing Hodgson!
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gambler

Kent 03 Sep 17 1.55am

Originally posted by Dan89

Our great chairman considering sacking de Boer after 4 games. Let that sink in.

And if the rumours are to be believed replacing him with Roy f***ing Hodgson!

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