The only consistent bollocks comes from your keyboard.

'Who are you and how did you get in here? I'm a locksmith. And, I'm a locksmith.' (Leslie Nielsen)

I attribute the 'rise' in 'white supremacy' to be tiny in real terms. The media are responsible for sensationalism as they always are....looking for easy villians and heros.

There has certainly been a significant reaction against the 'rise' in identity politics from 'progressivism' that has taken over the Democratic party and now forms the policy of many companies.

I fully support that reaction and regard myself as fully 'anti progressive'. I believe and support pushback against this insidiousness. However I most definitely don't support using violence as pushback.

I agreed with how Trump responded to this. I watched his statement and saw nothing wrong with it. I think there is validity in criticising Trump's style of politics definitely. He lies, he exaggerates, he s*** talks....but he doesn't encourage murder.

I don't blame him for murderers driving cars into protesters just as I don't blame the Democrat party for murders 'black lives matter' supporters carried out.

Rhetoric doesn't help and it shows how badly polarized both sides are but ultimately murderers hold responsibility for their own actions. No one sanctions this behaviour from either party.

As for what's happened here it's very fresh and I'll probably wait for more details. From what I know so far there was a vote to remove a statue of General Lee. That is obviously provocative and another example of identity politics looking to erasure history they don't like. So we get an organized protest and a counter protest. I don't know much about the details but there has been violence and a death.

People who do that are criminals and/or murderers and receive nothing but condemnation from me. No one has the right to take lives over a difference of worldview....polarization in America has reached ridiculous levels and from what I've seen both sides are equally to blame for that.

I don't recall you complaining about 'Black lives matter' violent protests or complaining about the murders that supporters of it carried out. Yet here you are quick as anything condemning its apparent opposite. Essentially I don't see you as a rational actor in relation to these events.

I see a lack of compromise....indeed compromise is seen as 'selling out' today whereas as the compromisers of the past actually achieved things politically by using bipartisanship....Edward Kennedy for example.

Those days are gone and all anyone cares about is 'winning'.

'Who are you and how did you get in here? I'm a locksmith. And, I'm a locksmith.' (Leslie Nielsen)

Do you honestly think that Trump's anti Muslim, talking about building walls and other such rhetoric hasn't emboldened white supremisists in the US?

I write that long post and you come out with that?

To answer your question...because I tend to answer questions. I think they support it certainly. I'm not sure what you are saying? So Trump isn't allowed to have those views and speak them then?

So your views Nick, are you responsible for the behaviour of everyone who has ever heard them? You call Tories 'cunds'...so if someone goes out and punches a Tory after reading that are you to blame?

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'Who are you and how did you get in here? I'm a locksmith. And, I'm a locksmith.' (Leslie Nielsen)

You are watching an echo chamber. Did you watch Tim Pool on the link I provided....probably not.

And like I say, you do the very thing you complain about.

'Who are you and how did you get in here? I'm a locksmith. And, I'm a locksmith.' (Leslie Nielsen)

Watched the video. Said both sides are as bad as eachother. I'm sorry whilst he may have a point it doesn't address the fact that there are Nazis marching in the US in 2017. There are Nazis deliberately driving a car at speed into a crowd (but it's not a terrorist act!)
I think that Trump's rhetoric (look back at his election rallies. Taking the piss out of disabled people or throwing Muslims out of rallies) has stoked up fascism or fascistic attitudes because they think it's ok because that's the type of stuff the POTUS has said.

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