Interesting how politics seems to be a surrogate for football. Perhaps it's just another form of tribalism. But just remember which takes precedence, we are all Palace despite being lefty pinko/righty fascist/ginger/black/white/fat/old/young blah blah blah

Interesting how politics seems to be a surrogate for football. Perhaps it's just another form of tribalism. But just remember which takes precedence, we are all Palace despite being lefty pinko/righty fascist/ginger/black/white/fat/old/young blah blah blah

I'd argue that this is one of the worst times to be young. No chance of getting a house / flat because wages are s***. They've been through a s***storm of exam changes mid course at school, They're the first generation for a long time that will be worse off than their parents. If you want to train to go into public service, nurse, plod, teacher etc you've got to get into a s*** load of debt. If you want a good job you probably need a degree with the debts involved, if academia isn't your bag, where are the training schemes or apprenticeships (I moaned about yts but do know a few people who did well out of it career wise).
EMA's have gone discouraging kids from poorer backgrounds entering college.

I could add more.

No wonder many of the young have got the hump (but it's easier to dismiss glibly as we have seen on this thread) than to try and see things from their perspective.

What you describe is not ideal but you can't really think the young have it hard compared to the past?

The baby boomers and their kids had it good in some ways but overall the youth today have a relatively soft life.

You can't blame Thatcher for the millions of immigrants who have come here and had kids in the last 20 years.

Yes rents are far too high but greater demand for housing has to be largely due to immigration.

I agree with this to quite some degree - modern life is "soft" for many young people by some definitions for sure.

However, I was able to leave school at 16 with a clutch of O levels and get a job. I didn't have to go to Uni and pick up any form of debt - I actually started earning my own money at 16. I was also able, in my late 20's, to get a mortgage on a 1-bedroom starter home in the home counties on my own single wage plus my own savings.

Do you think any of that's possible for young people today? They may have access to the trappings of 21st century consumerism, but they are monumentally screwed compared with earlier generations.