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Spiderman Horsham 19 Mar 19 1.04pm | |
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Originally posted by elgrande
I think that's half the point Jim,if they were a family from some sink estate in hull,one they wouldn't have had this amount of money lavished on them,and two would have been locked up for child neglect. My theory for what it's worth,they overdosed on the sleeping pills and got rid of the body. Exactly
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Spiderman Horsham 19 Mar 19 1.07pm | |
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Originally posted by Forest Hillbilly
One of the previous posters said Maddie's sleep had previously been disturbed by the twins. Tranquilisers maybe the root cause. Putting the blame for investigative failings on the Portugeuse police by the McCann's was cunning, and maybe inspired by their lawyers/publicists. As was destroying most of the evidence by allowing people in and out of the apartment before calling the police
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Goal Machine The Cronx 19 Mar 19 1.28pm | |
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Originally posted by Spiderman
As was destroying most of the evidence by allowing people in and out of the apartment before calling the police I'm sorry, but the initial reaction to a missing child would be to look for it in the immediate vicinity, whilst in a panic, and you would expect to find it. There would be a few minutes before you notify the hotel staff, and then probably 10-15 mins before you notify the Police. Having people in/out of the room during a panic at that stage would be normal. The immediate thought would not be one of 'don't touch anything as this room is a crime scene'. Re your previous post, having dinner close by with friends (120 meters away or so) and popping in to check on sleeping children is hardly neglect. You can't be glued to them 24/7. They were on holiday and probably enjoying a dinner away from the kids. I've not finished the series yet, but the sniffer dog evidence felt quite compelling. My current thoughts are accidental overdose seems most likely. The remaining episodes may change my view.
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Spiderman Horsham 19 Mar 19 9.22pm | |
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Originally posted by Goal Machine
I'm sorry, but the initial reaction to a missing child would be to look for it in the immediate vicinity, whilst in a panic, and you would expect to find it. There would be a few minutes before you notify the hotel staff, and then probably 10-15 mins before you notify the Police. Having people in/out of the room during a panic at that stage would be normal. The immediate thought would not be one of 'don't touch anything as this room is a crime scene'. Re your previous post, having dinner close by with friends (120 meters away or so) and popping in to check on sleeping children is hardly neglect. You can't be glued to them 24/7. They were on holiday and probably enjoying a dinner away from the kids. I've not finished the series yet, but the sniffer dog evidence felt quite compelling. My current thoughts are accidental overdose seems most likely. The remaining episodes may change my view. I'm sorry but leaving 3 young children alone anywhere, is, in my book neglect. You honestly think that it is acceptable? Also, it would appear they left the door unlocked, allegedly. Why not use the baby sitting service?
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cryrst The garden of England 19 Mar 19 10.26pm | |
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Originally posted by Goal Machine
I'm sorry, but the initial reaction to a missing child would be to look for it in the immediate vicinity, whilst in a panic, and you would expect to find it. There would be a few minutes before you notify the hotel staff, and then probably 10-15 mins before you notify the Police. Having people in/out of the room during a panic at that stage would be normal. The immediate thought would not be one of 'don't touch anything as this room is a crime scene'. Re your previous post, having dinner close by with friends (120 meters away or so) and popping in to check on sleeping children is hardly neglect. You can't be glued to them 24/7. They were on holiday and probably enjoying a dinner away from the kids. I've not finished the series yet, but the sniffer dog evidence felt quite compelling. My current thoughts are accidental overdose seems most likely. The remaining episodes may change my view. Enjoying a dinner away from the kids.
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jeeagles 19 Mar 19 11.00pm | |
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Originally posted by Goal Machine
I'm sorry, but the initial reaction to a missing child would be to look for it in the immediate vicinity, whilst in a panic, and you would expect to find it. There would be a few minutes before you notify the hotel staff, and then probably 10-15 mins before you notify the Police. Having people in/out of the room during a panic at that stage would be normal. The immediate thought would not be one of 'don't touch anything as this room is a crime scene'. Re your previous post, having dinner close by with friends (120 meters away or so) and popping in to check on sleeping children is hardly neglect. You can't be glued to them 24/7. They were on holiday and probably enjoying a dinner away from the kids. I've not finished the series yet, but the sniffer dog evidence felt quite compelling. My current thoughts are accidental overdose seems most likely. The remaining episodes may change my view. I've got a friend who works as a gardener at a family friendly tourist attraction. On busy she says all staff have to regularly drop everything and reach for missing kids who's parents have lost them because they were glued to their phones. She says the parents regularly wait more than half an hour before they say something.
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cryrst The garden of England 20 Mar 19 12.00am | |
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Originally posted by jeeagles
I've got a friend who works as a gardener at a family friendly tourist attraction. On busy she says all staff have to regularly drop everything and reach for missing kids who's parents have lost them because they were glued to their phones. She says the parents regularly wait more than half an hour before they say something. Not right; but getting distracted is a bit different to intentionally being a selfish
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Helmet46 Croydon 20 Mar 19 7.02am | |
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Originally posted by Goal Machine
I'm sorry, but the initial reaction to a missing child would be to look for it in the immediate vicinity, whilst in a panic, and you would expect to find it. There would be a few minutes before you notify the hotel staff, and then probably 10-15 mins before you notify the Police. Having people in/out of the room during a panic at that stage would be normal. The immediate thought would not be one of 'don't touch anything as this room is a crime scene'. Re your previous post, having dinner close by with friends (120 meters away or so) and popping in to check on sleeping children is hardly neglect. You can't be glued to them 24/7. They were on holiday and probably enjoying a dinner away from the kids. I've not finished the series yet, but the sniffer dog evidence felt quite compelling. My current thoughts are accidental overdose seems most likely. The remaining episodes may change my view.
However, at best it was lazy and irresponsible parenting. At worst it was neglect. These kids were very young. Far too young to be left alone, at night, in the circumstances detailed above but not too young to sleep in buggies or pushchairs at the dinner table. That’s what we did with ours, at that age, on holiday. The Dogs are interesting. The series goes on to suggest an incomplete DNA match when the final results were analysed. I read somewhere that the samples matched 15 out of 19 triggers. In the UK that’s enough to convict. In Portugal it needs to be 19 out of 19. (This is what I have read but I cannot state it is correct. There’s a lot of misinformation/contradiction regarding this case), Another conspiracy theory suggests that small amounts of money keep being given to the Met to keep the investigation live, as, if it was closed then a whole raft of FOI requests could come in and the whole way the establishment has protected them would be open to public scrutiny. Interesting theory. Edited by Helmet46 (20 Mar 2019 7.27am)
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Forest Hillbilly in a hidey-hole 20 Mar 19 2.13pm | |
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Kate's eyes and face, have always looked haunted to me. Gerry's eyes and mouth have always looked aggressive to me, like he's fiercely defensive, or going to lash out. The story is too complex now with theories, and discrediting of witnesses and destruction of evidence for a viable outcome to happen. Someone breaking ranks will be the only way this gets cleared up. If I were a betting person, my money would be on Kate letting slip
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Badger11 Beckenham 20 Mar 19 2.59pm | |
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One part of the Portuguese theory that never made sense was that the Tapas 7 are supposed to have helped cover up the crime. They were holiday friends so the McCanns only saw them occasionally why would any of them owe the McCanns anything and risk jail time. Quite frankly if any of my family came to me to help cover up a death I would call the police immediately. Lying who was driving when your caught speeding is one thing. Covering up the death of a child for someone you barely know! I don't believe it. I don't think those people have a clue what happened if they did they would have spoken out by now.
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kent675 Bromley, Kent 20 Mar 19 4.27pm | |
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I'm 3 episodes in and have just seen the clip of the cadaver dogs which I never knew before. I used to be sure that they were innocent but am re-considering this - the power of decent documentaries! This was 100% neglect.
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Spiderman Horsham 20 Mar 19 6.14pm | |
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Originally posted by Badger11
One part of the Portuguese theory that never made sense was that the Tapas 7 are supposed to have helped cover up the crime. They were holiday friends so the McCanns only saw them occasionally why would any of them owe the McCanns anything and risk jail time. Quite frankly if any of my family came to me to help cover up a death I would call the police immediately. Lying who was driving when your caught speeding is one thing. Covering up the death of a child for someone you barely know! I don't believe it. I don't think those people have a clue what happened if they did they would have spoken out by now. I agree. My wife has an interesting theory (call it female intuition). We have watched the first episode she found the following strange:
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